Kill story

I guess I should mention that this is my kill story...and I'm not bullshitting, trolling or whatever you call it. I still can't believe it...

I went into more detail a little further into the thread....

 

From reading that I get that your only mods are a 3.55 gear??

If thats all your mods and your not hiding anything...That M3 owner should take some driving leasons.

 

I doubt my little 1/2" spacer counts for anything. Hp mods equal all of 5hp...so yeah, gears and tires. Remember, tires mean a lot at the launch, and I'm a hell of a driver, not to pat my own back, but I almost never get left on unless the car is just that quick....been doing the racing thing for some years now.

 

Nice kill. Off the line is where it's at. My last car, an lt1 ss, with the slp 2400 stall, and drag radials was a hoot to drive. used to go to the philly street races. Jump out and hold off lots of faster cars. The car was in the 12s, just like the 99 but with 104mph traps instead of 108+, tough to beat off the line.

Joe

plus, with an auto, the only real problem you can have is gate shifting and hitting the rev limiter. Nearly idiot proof...however, some idiot who can't drive who buys a 50 grand m3, still can't drive.

 

Good Kill.

 

Yea the launch makes a huge difference.....I am suprised he didnt reel you back in. If it was an SMG model you really cannot screw up the lauch, but that is assuming that the driver turned DSC off, put Sport mode on, and knows the proper SMG mode. A good friend of mine has a 02' E46 M3 in manual version that ran a 13.3 his first time ever at the track.

 

if his vert with only 355's can handle an m3 hmmmmm?

i ran my friends 2000 gt vert 5 spd on the hwy 50 - 90, dead even, does that mean i can hang with an m3,

no way

sorry

maybe he was breaking in his new car

but like they say, a kill is a kill

 

i beat one...i yelled over to the guy .."i know if you were trying you would have killed me..." he said i was trying i just need to learn how to drive this thing....this was almost a year ago...

 

Nice kill!

 

i believe it i beat an e46 smg 2 outta 3 times

 

You beat the driver.....An M3 has a 5+ MPH higher trap speed than ur car. Get a good driver in the M3 and you would have been car lengths behind

 

haha no shit, those things are ridiculous

 

LOL that's where I expected to be...I guess he didn't have enough low end to handle the 20+ mph roll and my launch was good.

As far as LS1s and taking them outta the hole....as long as you know you're leaving first, you will. A car standing still is never faster than one rolling, lol...

 

could the kid driving the M3 see over the steering wheel or reach the pedals? Just kidding.

He can't drive it or wasn't trying. Most likely can't drive it. It's like me beating a brand new Z-28 SS or a Ram Air T/A

 

no disputing, he couldn't drive the damn thing.....


anyone know the 0-60 on the manual (not SMG) vert M3?

 

The August 2001 issue of Motor Trend tested the 6-speed M3 against the Boxster S and Z06. These were the numbers they reported for the M3:

0-60: 4.65 secs
1/4 mile: 13.18 @ 106.92

 

yeah, i did some digging and found that one too...but i can't seem to find any vert times...

 

hehe good kill... sounds like two people who missed gears left and right though... a win is a win...

 

Why in the hell did you bother with 3.55s? Put some man gears in that thing. 4.10s.

 

man gears

 

it wasn't by choice, I hate them, always did.

I blew the hell out of the rear (posi, gears, bearings, seals and cover) earlier this season, had to buy almost 500 bux in parts, still had to pay for labor and needed the car back on the road. I gave my mech the original gears (3.27) to put back in. He called me, told me the car was ready, but when i test drove it, something was amiss. When i told him my speedo was off, but it was a slug, he said he threw the 55s in there. I'm trying to get my hands on some 4.10s, maybe 30s next week...

 

i think 3.55's are perfect. you don't have to worry about revvin high rpm's while cruisin at highway speeds and you still have enuf gear to get a decent launch. i had 3.55's on my 88. you could even go up to 373's and still be kinda in a ok cruisin range. had 373's on my camaro, was ridin at 3g's at only 55mph

 

I miss my 3.73s

 

It took a while for Mustang enthusiasts to embrace higher gearing when the modular (4.6L OHC) motors came out in 1996. For a fox body such as you had, which is lighter and has a motor that produces it's power lower in the rpm band, 3.55s were (and are) a great choice for a street application. The modular cars, being heavier and with motors that produce their power higher in the rpm bad, more gear is "needed" to get a similar effect.

IMO, 4.10s in a modular GT are "equivalent" to 3.55s/3.73s in a 5 liter. Another way to look at it is that Ford put 2.73s and 3.08s in these cars stock, and 3,27s in the modular cars stock, so an equal bump of 2-3 gear ranges yeilds the "equivalent" effect. Another factor to consider is that the modular motor gets better mpg when highway cruising in the upper 2000s rpm band than the 5 liter does, so the mileage effect is not as great as you might think.

The old wisdom/conventions do not really apply.

 

I recently swapped out my 3.55's for 3.73's and I'm really happy I did. The 3.55's are a nice gear setup (not enough for autos though), preferrably if you're spinning a turbo or using lots of s/c boost. With my n/a (for now) '90 lx, the 3.73's woke this baby up even more than I thought possible, w/out the rpm's screaming through the roof (only went up 200rpm's more than the 3.55's at 80mph).

 

Good kill. However, the model year of the M3 should've been 2000 -> 2002. The 2003 models are not due for shipping starting this month. Same car though, so no difference.

As a M3 owner ... I am ashamed by this M3 driver, missing 2nd gear and got owned by a GT.

 

I would say that in a street race, it's part car and part driver. Since the M3 was mated with a bad driver, I would like to congratulate you. Good kill!

FYI: 2003 M3s are not due for shipment til recently, so it could also be that he's still in the break-in period. I am currently in my break-in period, I get out dragged by mini-vans and buses on a daily basis.

 

the 0-60 on the m3 is 4.7 seconds. I dont think there is anyway that the mustang would have beat this car if it would have had a good driver

 

Sorry, I have a hard time believing that unless he had his parking brake on. An M3 in a good drivers hand will do 13.0-13.4 1/4 miles all day long, A bad driver will do 13.6-13.9's.

Unless he turned off his DSC and sat at the light smoking the tires while you hooked and took off.

1/4 mile times as follows
6-speed 13.0-13.4
SMG 13.8-14.0

 

Never underestimate the power of a bad driver. I'm sure a 'bad driver can put the M3 into the 15s, tons of wheel spin, major bog, short shifting, missing gears, etc. All those are real possibilities even for a decent driver. A BAD driver, anything can happen. Everyone here is always talking about LS1s always running hi 13s, low 14s...yes i've seen a few, by what i would call inexperienced or poor drivers. Sure good drivers put their stock/light modded LS1s into the 12s, just as good drivers in M3s can do the same; however i've seen one ls1 run a best of high 14s on 3 runs, with 2 in the low 15s.

Joe

 

Why is everyone quoting the M3 coupe numbers. I beleive, and could be wrong, has stated it was an M3 Convertible. The above implies "manual (not SMG) vert M3" this was a convertible refering to the "vert" statement.

If this is the case then they run in the high 13's in manual form.

 

i heard the 6 speed SC they have at competch was doin high 13s

 

can't wait

 

I can't tell from his original post if he was racing a convertible. If he was, it would explain a lot since they are about 400 pounds heavier.

 

In the end, its still a BMW and you still have a Ford...and with the M, i couldn't care less if a Stang puts 10 lengths on me...

 

yes, in the end, it is a Ford...if my pockets were deeper, or if i lived at home (not implying you do), I could afford one, but the kid and bills mean i gotta settle for the under 30K rides for now...oh well.

One day i can roll with the big dogs and get an M...

 

And in the end you own an Accord.

 

ouch, but oh so true. If an M3 made economic sense to me right now i'd be driving one. But it doesn't.

Joe

 

your awfully proud I watched a 2003 lightning run a 14.6 2 weeks ago...... thats pretty bad however he trapped 101, a bad driver could easily put a mustang with gears well in front plus he said he was catching him.... so sounds like a nice kill to me.

 

all this controversy because of li'l ol' me