01 CLS Vs. GTI
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From: Chicago Burbs
Originally Posted by AcuracltypeS03
I dont know where u got that 150 hps but a stock 1.8T runs 180 which my GTI was APR TUNED AND INTERCOOLER BIGGER TURBO PIPES.. Pushing 240 hp 190 Whps if i just upgraded the turbo on 16PSI's i would be running 280hp which is 240-250 whps but those kind of PSI's on ur stock turbo is kind of dangerous for ur stock turbo.. But also my Car was a 1988 Jetta MK2 with a 1.8T swap which weight about 23k .The 1/4th i ran low 11's with a stock turbo.
HPA R32 Twin Turbo i seen it in a real life on the track last year down to Florida and that Gti is for sale now 70k and its urs it was on the Fixxfest last year down in Florida..
I love CL-S but those VW's can be dangerous sometimes guys so wacth out
HPA R32 Twin Turbo i seen it in a real life on the track last year down to Florida and that Gti is for sale now 70k and its urs it was on the Fixxfest last year down in Florida..
I love CL-S but those VW's can be dangerous sometimes guys so wacth out
Originally Posted by AcuracltypeS03
Originally Posted by AcuracltypeS03
Yea true that man.. But also i got that jetta for 800 bucks and the whole thing costed me 7k with the whole motor swap and mods.. And now i sold it for like 5k so i basically lost 2k right there but then again i got this CL-S because it was a nice car and i went to this forum and read the posts and seen that u guys are really cool unlike those Honda Ricers so i finally decided to move on with the CL-S.. But i wouldnt also mind a 06 GTI now... 
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2700263
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
ROFL
As if anyone believed any of the horseshit that came out of this childs mouth, I bet he doesn't even have a car.
Let's all hope since he's been exposed he'll stop posting in every damn thread useless garbage.
As if anyone believed any of the horseshit that came out of this childs mouth, I bet he doesn't even have a car.
Let's all hope since he's been exposed he'll stop posting in every damn thread useless garbage.
I was wondering how there was such a disparity between the clean looking jetta vs. the CL with the ricey rims.
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Originally Posted by JBlueCLS6
r.
Let's all hope since he's been exposed he'll stop posting in every damn thread useless garbage.
Let's all hope since he's been exposed he'll stop posting in every damn thread useless garbage.
Thats my goal
I have a lot more dirt on him, so lets see him talk himself out of this one.
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Indeed, an APR Stage 1 ECU upgrade alone costs only $599 and bumps the GTI's power up to 252hp/303lb-ft feet (w/93 octane). LINK That should be enough for a competent GTI driver to make short work of a CL-S. (I believe similar HP/TQ gains apply to the Audi A4 2.0T.)
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There can not be huge gains made on a VR6 motor by chipping/flashing it, right? It only applies to the 1.8t. If you see "VR6" on the back, and don't hear a blower or blowoff valve, you will probably make short work of it. It's those pesky turbo's you gotta watch out for! What's even crazier is how restricted the new GTI 2.0t is from the factory. I have a feeling one tune is going to make that car into one HELL of a fast shoe.
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Automobile mag--
"Volkswagen rates its 2.0T at 200 horsepower and 207 lb-ft of torque. Our test car put 178 of those horses to the ground, and generated a peak of 193 lb-ft of torque in the process. Those numbers are right where we expected.
Whereas most companies provide peak power ratings at a specific engine speed, VW says that the 2.0T makes its peak horsepower for more than just a single spot on the x-axis, and they're absolutely right. What that indicates, however, is that the computers took over and castrated the 2.0T. The horsepower curve is suspiciously flat and the torque curve is so perfectly linear that only a computer could be responsible for it.
That's the bad news. The good news is that-and anyone who has chipped a turbocharged VW engine knows what I'm talking about-there is a whole lot more power to be had out of this engine. Be sure to look for uprated factory 2.0T engines in the future, too. VW might reinforce the engine components, but the actual increase in power will be a result of a reprogrammed computer allowing more boost."
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"Volkswagen rates its 2.0T at 200 horsepower and 207 lb-ft of torque. Our test car put 178 of those horses to the ground, and generated a peak of 193 lb-ft of torque in the process. Those numbers are right where we expected.
Whereas most companies provide peak power ratings at a specific engine speed, VW says that the 2.0T makes its peak horsepower for more than just a single spot on the x-axis, and they're absolutely right. What that indicates, however, is that the computers took over and castrated the 2.0T. The horsepower curve is suspiciously flat and the torque curve is so perfectly linear that only a computer could be responsible for it.
That's the bad news. The good news is that-and anyone who has chipped a turbocharged VW engine knows what I'm talking about-there is a whole lot more power to be had out of this engine. Be sure to look for uprated factory 2.0T engines in the future, too. VW might reinforce the engine components, but the actual increase in power will be a result of a reprogrammed computer allowing more boost."
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hmm...correct me if im wrong but the r32 has a tuned version of the vr6 does it not? Stock its faster then our cars and with a chip it will leave us..unless your boosting gonna have a hard time against r32's if they have ANYTHING done to them haha the 1.8t is lame..not the vr6....havent heard anything about the 2.0 making significant power gains yet..
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From: Chicago Burbs
Originally Posted by onebadtls
hmm...correct me if im wrong but the r32 has a tuned version of the vr6 does it not? Stock its faster then our cars and with a chip it will leave us..unless your boosting gonna have a hard time against r32's if they have ANYTHING done to them haha the 1.8t is lame..not the vr6....havent heard anything about the 2.0 making significant power gains yet..
R32 chipped doesnt get much gains over stock. Its still just a 3.2 NA engine.
1.8t GTI with software will give a TLS a nice run.
GIAC performance software for the 2005 - 2002 Golf®/Jetta® 1.8T smoothly delivers a 25-35 hp and 50-60 ft-lbs gain
http://www.giacusa.com/giac_VW.php to see how much power you get just by software.
2.0t engine http://www.giacusa.com/jetta5fsi_plots.php
Look at that torque
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You won't be able to get much more out of an R32 unless you go FI.
1.8t GTI is an extremeley capable car that can smoke many many cars with very little modification.
2.0t a4's are heavy as hell.
2.0t engine is insane.
1.8t GTI is an extremeley capable car that can smoke many many cars with very little modification.
2.0t a4's are heavy as hell.
2.0t engine is insane.
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lol thanks sellout.
Anyways be careful when you encounter any GTI. Personally I stear clear of them most of the time..my car is only about 175 HP. It only weighs 2700 lbs...but until I get my flasher in a few days, my car is not torquey enough to makeup for the GTIs turbolag.
You type-S guy's shouldn't have much trouble with one unless it's chipped, though.
Anyways be careful when you encounter any GTI. Personally I stear clear of them most of the time..my car is only about 175 HP. It only weighs 2700 lbs...but until I get my flasher in a few days, my car is not torquey enough to makeup for the GTIs turbolag.
You type-S guy's shouldn't have much trouble with one unless it's chipped, though.
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