01 CLS Vs. GTI
12-14-2006, 03:40 PM
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01 CLS Vs. GTI
On my way to work, once I get off the freeway, I fly down the road I work on. It is 45 MPH but never any cops and no traffic at 11:30 AM. So I'm doing my usual 80 MPH and fly by this guy in a blk GTI. He comes into my lane and is flashing me, I am 30 ft from work and already running late, so I couldnt run him. Mabe we will meet again! So I come into work and my buddy is a huge import racer/fan, I was telling him about the GTI and he was like ooooooooo he might have got you man. ARE YOU SERRIOUS, is that thing really fast? I admit I am a relative noob to the import scene but common a freaking VW????
12-14-2006, 04:01 PM
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those things can be modded to be very fast, you gotta watch out for em...i saw one behind me today with a nice large front mount intercooler, but there was no room for us to run em...
12-15-2006, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SkillmatiC
those things can be modded to be very fast, you gotta watch out for em...i saw one behind me today with a nice large front mount intercooler, but there was no room for us to run em...
Exspecailly the MK5's ones.. Thats my next car.. 2.0T just a chip will give ya 50 hps...
12-15-2006, 03:20 AM
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http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
This is stock....
2003 Volkswagen GTI 24V VR6. 0-60 6.5 n/a
2004 Volkswagen GTI 1.8t (manual) 6.5 15.2
2004 Volkswagon Golf R32 6.4 14.5
2004 Volkswagon Golf HPA R32 3.2 11.49
And this is the performance tuned VW Golf R32 HPA twin turbo that goes faster than an Enzo apparently.
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/hpar32/
Makes me wanna go buy a GTI again
This is stock....
2003 Volkswagen GTI 24V VR6. 0-60 6.5 n/a
2004 Volkswagen GTI 1.8t (manual) 6.5 15.2
2004 Volkswagon Golf R32 6.4 14.5
2004 Volkswagon Golf HPA R32 3.2 11.49
And this is the performance tuned VW Golf R32 HPA twin turbo that goes faster than an Enzo apparently.
http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/hpar32/
Makes me wanna go buy a GTI again
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12-15-2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by belcom
And this is the performance tuned VW Golf R32 HPA twin turbo that goes faster than an Enzo apparently.
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And this is the performance tuned VW Golf R32 HPA twin turbo that goes faster than an Enzo apparently.
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12-15-2006, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 01clsstock
for a shoe
Yeah... for a shoe! Still though, can you imagine pulling up next to a Ferrari or Lambo in that thing and leaving them behind? Must be an amazing feeling... for a shoe of course.
12-15-2006, 02:35 PM
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Hell no. There is no way a factory GTI is going to take a CL S. Here's why:
2001 CL S v.s. 2001 Volkswagen GTI turbo.
6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 110 more horsepower (260 vs 150).
Engine Torque 77 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 155).
Performance tires standard, versus not available.
Length 29 inches longer (192 vs 163.3 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Now, of course we all know there are people out there with Volkswagens that are modded to hell and back but your chances of finding one that will smoke a CL S are slim to none.
2001 CL S v.s. 2001 Volkswagen GTI turbo.
6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 110 more horsepower (260 vs 150).
Engine Torque 77 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 155).
Performance tires standard, versus not available.
Length 29 inches longer (192 vs 163.3 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Now, of course we all know there are people out there with Volkswagens that are modded to hell and back but your chances of finding one that will smoke a CL S are slim to none.
12-15-2006, 02:51 PM
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Just in case some of you suckers out there want to know data on the new GTI here you go:
2001 CL S v.s. 2006 Volkswagen GTI.
Engine Type 6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 80 more horsepower (260 vs 180).
Engine Torque 59 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 173).
Length 27 inches longer (192 vs 164.9 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Base Curb Weight 576 pound(s) more base curb weight (3510 vs 2934).
2001 CL S v.s. 2006 Volkswagen GTI.
Engine Type 6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 80 more horsepower (260 vs 180).
Engine Torque 59 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 173).
Length 27 inches longer (192 vs 164.9 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Base Curb Weight 576 pound(s) more base curb weight (3510 vs 2934).
12-15-2006, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by belcom
there are lots of cars that look like shoes and what not. I personally like the Golf and I think it's a nice looking vehicle. CL for example looks like a boat. so what?
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I used to own a Scirrocco myself and people look at me like I'm crazy. Most people don't even know what a Scirocco is but I loved the hell out of that car. By the way, a guy in the S2K forum asked me what the hell a Volkswagen Scirocco is and I had to give him a full history and slide show on the car. He thought it was a peice of shit until he found out the Scirocco (Wolfsburg edition) could out accelerate a 944. As for the GTI it's an ugly peice of garbage. The CL is a much sexier car. As a matter of fact I read an article somewhere where they said the American designers had the Bentley in mind when they were designing the CL3.2 Type S.
12-15-2006, 03:04 PM
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you forgot something....
CLS weights 3446lbs vs Golf that weights 2723lbs = 723lbs of difference
CLS weights 3446lbs vs Golf that weights 2723lbs = 723lbs of difference
Originally Posted by USURPER
Hell no. There is no way a factory GTI is going to take a CL S. Here's why:
2001 CL S v.s. 2001 Volkswagen GTI turbo.
6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 110 more horsepower (260 vs 150).
Engine Torque 77 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 155).
Performance tires standard, versus not available.
Length 29 inches longer (192 vs 163.3 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Now, of course we all know there are people out there with Volkswagens that are modded to hell and back but your chances of finding one that will smoke a CL S are slim to none.
2001 CL S v.s. 2001 Volkswagen GTI turbo.
6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 110 more horsepower (260 vs 150).
Engine Torque 77 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 155).
Performance tires standard, versus not available.
Length 29 inches longer (192 vs 163.3 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Now, of course we all know there are people out there with Volkswagens that are modded to hell and back but your chances of finding one that will smoke a CL S are slim to none.
12-15-2006, 03:08 PM
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Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I used to own a Scirrocco myself and people look at me like I'm crazy. Most people don't even know what a Scirocco is but I loved the hell out of that car. By the way, a guy in the S2K forum asked me what the hell a Volkswagen Scirocco is and I had to give him a full history and slide show on the car. He thought it was a peice of shit until he found out the Scirocco (Wolfsburg edition) could out accelerate a 944. As for the GTI it's an ugly peice of garbage. The CL is a much sexier car. As a matter of fact I read an article somewhere where they said the American designers had the Bentley in mind when they were designing the CL3.2 Type S.
12-15-2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by USURPER
Hell no. There is no way a factory GTI is going to take a CL S. Here's why:
2001 CL S v.s. 2001 Volkswagen GTI turbo.
6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 110 more horsepower (260 vs 150).
Engine Torque 77 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 155).
Performance tires standard, versus not available.
Length 29 inches longer (192 vs 163.3 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Now, of course we all know there are people out there with Volkswagens that are modded to hell and back but your chances of finding one that will smoke a CL S are slim to none.
2001 CL S v.s. 2001 Volkswagen GTI turbo.
6 cylinders standard, versus 4 cylinders standard.
Engine Horsepower 110 more horsepower (260 vs 150).
Engine Torque 77 more ft/lbs of torque (232 vs 155).
Performance tires standard, versus not available.
Length 29 inches longer (192 vs 163.3 which may be an advantage).
Width 2.3 inches wider (70.6 vs 68.3 which may be an advantage).
Rear Tread Width 2.1 inches greater rear tread width (60.9 vs 58.8).
Now, of course we all know there are people out there with Volkswagens that are modded to hell and back but your chances of finding one that will smoke a CL S are slim to none.
HPA R32 Twin Turbo i seen it in a real life on the track last year down to Florida and that Gti is for sale now 70k and its urs it was on the Fixxfest last year down in Florida..
I love CL-S but those VW's can be dangerous sometimes guys so wacth out
12-15-2006, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by USURPER
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I used to own a Scirrocco myself and people look at me like I'm crazy. Most people don't even know what a Scirocco is but I loved the hell out of that car. By the way, a guy in the S2K forum asked me what the hell a Volkswagen Scirocco is and I had to give him a full history and slide show on the car. He thought it was a peice of shit until he found out the Scirocco (Wolfsburg edition) could out accelerate a 944. As for the GTI it's an ugly peice of garbage. The CL is a much sexier car. As a matter of fact I read an article somewhere where they said the American designers had the Bentley in mind when they were designing the CL3.2 Type S.
I loved my MK2 alot sry more that my CL-S.. sry guys but i love the CL-S but its just not my type of car... I think is because my first car was a 1988 Jetta MK2..
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12-15-2006, 04:34 PM
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I love when disagreements happen on these threads because you're comparing apples to oranges. The CL-S is a luxury sport coupe and the GTI is a sport compact, two distinctly different cars all together, but both capable and nice looking cars. Just see eye to eye and the world will be a much more enjoyable place for all of us. ("Ebony and Ivory" playing in back ground)
12-15-2006, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CLariSe-169
I love when disagreements happen on these threads because you're comparing apples to oranges. The CL-S is a luxury sport coupe and the GTI is a sport compact, two distinctly different cars all together, but both capable and nice looking cars. Just see eye to eye and the world will be a much more enjoyable place for all of us. ("Ebony and Ivory" playing in back ground)
12-15-2006, 07:17 PM
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I had a '79 Scirocco, gold, lowered, no cat, no mufflers (straight T-304 SS piping), 4spd, front black air dam, and aftermarket rims and wheels. And damn that car was fun to drive. It got off the line really fast. I could bury the speedo needle and I really had no idea how fast I was going after 100 mph.
-I also owned a (180hp)1.8T(had TCS) and VR6(No TCS) Mk4 5spds. Those were also very fun as well.
-I also owned a (180hp)1.8T(had TCS) and VR6(No TCS) Mk4 5spds. Those were also very fun as well.
12-15-2006, 11:45 PM
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I have raced a GTI anniversary edition 1.8T 6spd. He had I/E and downpipe and me in my 03 AV6 Coupe auto w/CAI at the time. We both dyno'd at apex, him at 176whp and 184wtq and me at 198whp and 181tq. We had 3 races from 0-90mph and each time I had him by 1-2 car lengths. Its definantly a drivers race between a stock CL-S and a GTI with the CL-S having the better top end. His high end started to fade because i did most of my pulling 60MPH+.
12-16-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AcuracltypeS03
12-16-2006, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMachine
I had a '79 Scirocco, gold, lowered, no cat, no mufflers (straight T-304 SS piping), 4spd, front black air dam, and aftermarket rims and wheels. And damn that car was fun to drive. It got off the line really fast. I could bury the speedo needle and I really had no idea how fast I was going after 100 mph.
-I also owned a (180hp)1.8T(had TCS) and VR6(No TCS) Mk4 5spds. Those were also very fun as well.
-I also owned a (180hp)1.8T(had TCS) and VR6(No TCS) Mk4 5spds. Those were also very fun as well.
12-16-2006, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by USURPER
What disagreements? I didn`t disagree on anything. I posted stock numbers for the GTI for 2001 (150hp) and 2006 (180hp). If you scroll back up you`ll also notice I said GTI`s can be modified to hell and back. If anyone knows what a VW engine can do I sure as hell do, and I wouldn`t mess with a modified Scirocco or a GTI. I put a MANY people to shame in my Scirocco back in the 80`s. It was particularly easy back in the day because Chevrolet and Ford were both putting out heavy ass, underpowered cars back then.
I wasn't directing that at you USURPER, it was more toward 01clsstock who was calling the GTI a shoe. It's all good.
12-16-2006, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rongotti
How anyone could rather drive that then a CL-S is beyond me
12-16-2006, 11:51 PM
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Oh trust me that bish would pull on us the way i had the motor built
12-17-2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by belcom
you forgot something....
CLS weights 3446lbs vs Golf that weights 2723lbs = 723lbs of difference
CLS weights 3446lbs vs Golf that weights 2723lbs = 723lbs of difference
Hence, power:weight.
12-17-2006, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
so will a lot of crappy cars, but while you are pulling on my car, i will have heated seats while i follow my indash navi and sit comfortably in my leather seats. oh and still have a better looking car in the end.
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id be careful if i were yall, i was takin a lil nap while my wifey was driving my car. i woke up and looked over we were doing 140 and she was getting smoked by a gti..come to find out it was a debadged r32 with some serious mods....those things are pretty damn quick and they sound beautiful.
12-23-2006, 04:11 PM
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GTI's arent very fast at all! i raced one in my DA (integra) with the only mods that i had was an intake and a short shifter!... i beat him by 2-3 car lengths! and yes he did kno we were racing... he did the count off!
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Originally Posted by JBlueCLS6
Heh.... I've had arun with two R32s. Lets just say I don't think they'll try racing any CL's anytime soon.