01 CL-s Vs. latest gen V6 Altima
03-06-2006, 02:30 PM
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01 CL-s Vs. latest gen V6 Altima
So I was out for a cruise the other night around 2:45am. I was on 93N when I see some headlights coming up in the rearveiw pretty quick. As the car pulls closer and pulls next to me I see it was a Altima. I look over and say I wonder what its got. Next thing you know the guys starts hitting the gas as to say lets go. So we both slow down to about 40mph, (were doing like 70 before) I switch to sportshift and catch 2nd gear and soon as he seen me do that he floored it as do I. I pulled 1 then 2 then 3 cars on the altima before I shut it down. We did this like maybe 3 times with the same result each time. Then one final race I was just experimenting by this time I tried to take off from about 80 while leaving it in 4th this time he pulled ahead but beleive it or not it was only by like 1.5 cars and then when I caught vtec again soon I found him being reeled in pretty quick. I still really did not know if it was the 2.5 or the 3.5 untill the final race when I left in 4th and seen the badging on the rear as well as the dual pipes. (Exhaust was the only visual mod) So after that the guy was taking the next exit he gave me the 
and I returned it and went on my way. I thought I would share that race with you guys.
and I returned it and went on my way. I thought I would share that race with you guys.
03-07-2006, 12:31 PM
#5
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this must've been an A/T Altima. cos the manual Altima V6 and Maxima do the same times to 60 and 1/4 mile as an A/T CLS. while you're going 80, you can drop to 3rd and it pulls like a mother since it puts you well into the VTEC range. i tried finding the times for the Altima SE-R but didn't find it. but from what i've read, the 6spd CLS would have to be modded to keep up. good run, bro. 
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03-07-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Diego CL-S
this must've been an A/T Altima. cos the manual Altima V6 and Maxima do the same times to 60 and 1/4 mile as an A/T CLS. while you're going 80, you can drop to 3rd and it pulls like a mother since it puts you well into the VTEC range. i tried finding the times for the Altima SE-R but didn't find it. but from what i've read, the 6spd CLS would have to be modded to keep up. good run, bro.
03-07-2006, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
6speed and like 260hp i believe, i might be wrong about the HP.
it also weighs ever so slightly more. i would guess it has an upgraded suspension and who knows about the engine internals.
03-08-2006, 12:13 AM
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there it is, didnt mean to change subjects or nothin man, nice kill no matter what, but just showin some pics of the se r
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...8/page026.html
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...8/page026.html
03-08-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Diego CL-S
this must've been an A/T Altima. cos the manual Altima V6 and Maxima do the same times to 60 and 1/4 mile as an A/T CLS. while you're going 80, you can drop to 3rd and it pulls like a mother since it puts you well into the VTEC range. i tried finding the times for the Altima SE-R but didn't find it. but from what i've read, the 6spd CLS would have to be modded to keep up. good run, bro.
The Altima 3.5SE AT is about as quick (stage-->trap) as an AT CLS, with an edge to the CLS on the traps. Also, the 3.5SE (250hp/249lb-ft) is only a hair slower than the SE-R (260hp/251lb-ft).
Although I'd still give the edge to the SE-R 6MT, a well driven CLS 6MT should keep up pretty well.
03-08-2006, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
The Altima 3.5SE AT is about as quick (stage-->trap) as an AT CLS, with an edge to the CLS on the traps. Also, the 3.5SE (250hp/249lb-ft) is only a hair slower than the SE-R (260hp/251lb-ft).
Although I'd still give the edge to the SE-R 6MT, a well driven CLS 6MT should keep up pretty well.
03-08-2006, 04:22 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by Sun Diego CL-S
well, there you go guys. how would you say the Altima SE-R matches up against the 350Z? cos that 's what I thought the SE-R would be doing.
03-08-2006, 09:11 PM
#16
TQ > MPG
Auto 3.5SE = 14.9 @ 93mph
5 speed 3.5SE = 14.5 @ 97mph
SER's are only a tenth or so faster than their SE counterparts, altho some people have pulled 14.1's out of mostly stock SE-R's.
The VQ35 (engine in the V6 Altima) has a TON more low end power than the J32, thus off the line it will take the CL-S almost every time. I could pull 2.1 60's on stock tires with my ex-gf's 03 Maxima automatic (same drivetrain/weight as the altima) without even brake-tq'ing. The automatics have pretty shitty gearing once into 3rd, so from a highway roll they slow down considerably. My CL-S6 would womp on her Maxima after 40mph. I've raced a couple 5 speed Altima's and altho they are faster, from a roll the CL-S6 still inches away. From a slow roll or a stop they are definitely faster unless the CL-S has some really sticky tires and a good driver.
Another thing to remember is that the Altima weighs only 3225lbs, versus the CL-S which is 3450lbs.
5 speed 3.5SE = 14.5 @ 97mph
SER's are only a tenth or so faster than their SE counterparts, altho some people have pulled 14.1's out of mostly stock SE-R's.
The VQ35 (engine in the V6 Altima) has a TON more low end power than the J32, thus off the line it will take the CL-S almost every time. I could pull 2.1 60's on stock tires with my ex-gf's 03 Maxima automatic (same drivetrain/weight as the altima) without even brake-tq'ing. The automatics have pretty shitty gearing once into 3rd, so from a highway roll they slow down considerably. My CL-S6 would womp on her Maxima after 40mph. I've raced a couple 5 speed Altima's and altho they are faster, from a roll the CL-S6 still inches away. From a slow roll or a stop they are definitely faster unless the CL-S has some really sticky tires and a good driver.
Another thing to remember is that the Altima weighs only 3225lbs, versus the CL-S which is 3450lbs.
03-08-2006, 10:25 PM
#17
Drifting
i've raced an altima se-r. 50-110. tied once. won by a fender once. i'm not sure why i beat him but it happened. maybe a miss shift. maybe he bounced off of the rev. limiter.
03-09-2006, 08:07 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by Joe5.0
Auto 3.5SE = 14.9 @ 93mph
5 speed 3.5SE = 14.5 @ 97mph
SER's are only a tenth or so faster than their SE counterparts, altho some people have pulled 14.1's out of mostly stock SE-R's.
The VQ35 (engine in the V6 Altima) has a TON more low end power than the J32, thus off the line it will take the CL-S almost every time. I could pull 2.1 60's on stock tires with my ex-gf's 03 Maxima automatic (same drivetrain/weight as the altima) without even brake-tq'ing. The automatics have pretty shitty gearing once into 3rd, so from a highway roll they slow down considerably. My CL-S6 would womp on her Maxima after 40mph. I've raced a couple 5 speed Altima's and altho they are faster, from a roll the CL-S6 still inches away. From a slow roll or a stop they are definitely faster unless the CL-S has some really sticky tires and a good driver.
Another thing to remember is that the Altima weighs only 3225lbs, versus the CL-S which is 3450lbs.
5 speed 3.5SE = 14.5 @ 97mph
SER's are only a tenth or so faster than their SE counterparts, altho some people have pulled 14.1's out of mostly stock SE-R's.
The VQ35 (engine in the V6 Altima) has a TON more low end power than the J32, thus off the line it will take the CL-S almost every time. I could pull 2.1 60's on stock tires with my ex-gf's 03 Maxima automatic (same drivetrain/weight as the altima) without even brake-tq'ing. The automatics have pretty shitty gearing once into 3rd, so from a highway roll they slow down considerably. My CL-S6 would womp on her Maxima after 40mph. I've raced a couple 5 speed Altima's and altho they are faster, from a roll the CL-S6 still inches away. From a slow roll or a stop they are definitely faster unless the CL-S has some really sticky tires and a good driver.
Another thing to remember is that the Altima weighs only 3225lbs, versus the CL-S which is 3450lbs.
I can attest to both that 60' time and the 4AT tranny hangup in 3rd gear.
03-09-2006, 11:43 AM
#19
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Originally Posted by Joe5.0
Auto 3.5SE = 14.9 @ 93mph
5 speed 3.5SE = 14.5 @ 97mph
SER's are only a tenth or so faster than their SE counterparts, altho some people have pulled 14.1's out of mostly stock SE-R's.
The VQ35 (engine in the V6 Altima) has a TON more low end power than the J32, thus off the line it will take the CL-S almost every time. I could pull 2.1 60's on stock tires with my ex-gf's 03 Maxima automatic (same drivetrain/weight as the altima) without even brake-tq'ing. The automatics have pretty shitty gearing once into 3rd, so from a highway roll they slow down considerably. My CL-S6 would womp on her Maxima after 40mph. I've raced a couple 5 speed Altima's and altho they are faster, from a roll the CL-S6 still inches away. From a slow roll or a stop they are definitely faster unless the CL-S has some really sticky tires and a good driver.
Another thing to remember is that the Altima weighs only 3225lbs, versus the CL-S which is 3450lbs.
5 speed 3.5SE = 14.5 @ 97mph
SER's are only a tenth or so faster than their SE counterparts, altho some people have pulled 14.1's out of mostly stock SE-R's.
The VQ35 (engine in the V6 Altima) has a TON more low end power than the J32, thus off the line it will take the CL-S almost every time. I could pull 2.1 60's on stock tires with my ex-gf's 03 Maxima automatic (same drivetrain/weight as the altima) without even brake-tq'ing. The automatics have pretty shitty gearing once into 3rd, so from a highway roll they slow down considerably. My CL-S6 would womp on her Maxima after 40mph. I've raced a couple 5 speed Altima's and altho they are faster, from a roll the CL-S6 still inches away. From a slow roll or a stop they are definitely faster unless the CL-S has some really sticky tires and a good driver.
Another thing to remember is that the Altima weighs only 3225lbs, versus the CL-S which is 3450lbs.
03-09-2006, 12:47 PM
#20
says "hello to my TLX".
Originally Posted by Mike
wish i could sticky this post!!
thanks Redlinen.
03-09-2006, 01:58 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by blingbling69k69k
how much more $$$ is the SER to the SE?
is it like the CL-s to CL? den nissan is just puttin stuff on da market...
is it like the CL-s to CL? den nissan is just puttin stuff on da market...
IMHO, the SE-R is MUCH closer performancewise to the 3.5SE than the TLS/CLS is to the TLP/CLP. The power difference (at least on paper) is pretty negligible (10hp/2lb-ft), with similar acceleration times and governed topends set about 20mph lower in the 3.5SE than in the SE-R (130mph vs 150mph). Although the SE-R's braking and handling is pretty impressive, the ride is a little hard when compared with the 3.5SE.
Bottomline: The SE-R is harder edged version of the Altima 3.5SE.
03-09-2006, 02:06 PM
#24
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EDIT: Navi isnt available on the 3.5SE 5MT 
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