'01 CL-S vs 5.0 stang bolt ons auto... should i put money on this?

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Old 12-09-2004, 10:52 PM
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'01 CL-S vs 5.0 stang bolt ons auto... should i put money on this?

i have a guy who wants to challenge me... 5.0 stang auto with intake and exhaust. i was thinking a 20mph run from 1st gear up to 110 or so. what do you guys think? worth putting $$ down?

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Old 12-09-2004, 10:57 PM
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If he's auto then it should be a close race. Take out your sub box. The 5.0 autos aren't all that fast though.
Old 12-09-2004, 11:09 PM
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give it a shot, why not?
Old 12-10-2004, 12:33 AM
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you'll beat him. just be sure to take out any extra weight that is not needed.
Old 12-10-2004, 12:53 AM
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When you say intake do you mean like ebay shiny metal tube, or a replacement plenum?
Old 12-10-2004, 12:58 AM
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:48 AM
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you should have no problem with him...most bolt-on 5.0's are pushing at most 230rwhp...I think if you do a highway pull you should be able to take him...but I wouldnt run for money, just run for the bragging rights (you know like "my V6 beat your V8...hahaha)
Old 12-10-2004, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
If he's auto then it should be a close race. Take out your sub box. The 5.0 autos aren't all that fast though.
If it is a stock slush box and he has a cat back and intake then the CLS should take em. But, if it is a modded auto, say a th400 or a 700r4, or it has a verter on it, then it could be a closer race. And when you say exhaust is it just a muffler, a cat back, or are we talking full headers back exhaust? There are too many variables and those cars are beasts. They have shit hp, but they make crazy tq. From a roll you should win, from a dig, it could go either way. This is all considering his motor is still fresh.
Old 12-10-2004, 11:09 AM
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Don't run him from a stop! Run him from a 20 roll and you should be fine.
Old 12-10-2004, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Don't run him from a stop! Run him from a 20 roll and you should be fine.
Push the MPH a bit higher if you can, say 25-30MPH. You'll be in the RPM sweet spot.

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Old 12-10-2004, 12:23 PM
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What year Stang....and if he has intake and exhaust...he probably means intake = new plenum, and exhaust new heads and cam. 5.0s are hardly ever that lightly modified..parts are too cheap.

I say no money....just run him for fun.
Old 12-10-2004, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bigman
If it is a stock slush box and he has a cat back and intake then the CLS should take em. But, if it is a modded auto, say a th400 or a 700r4, or it has a verter on it, then it could be a closer race. And when you say exhaust is it just a muffler, a cat back, or are we talking full headers back exhaust? There are too many variables and those cars are beasts. They have shit hp, but they make crazy tq. From a roll you should win, from a dig, it could go either way. This is all considering his motor is still fresh.

FYI those are GM trannies.

Built mustang autos are either C4's or C6's as the stock AOD is a piece of shit when the HP goes above 300
Old 12-10-2004, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Don't run him from a stop! Run him from a 20 roll and you should be fine.

:imwithstupid:

Had a 95 5.0 with some bolts (catback, headers, throttlebody) Was really not that fast but from 0-30 it was much faster than the CLS i have now. Once you get up in MPH it was coughing and weezing.

Get him on the highway.
Old 12-10-2004, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 95gt
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Had a 95 5.0 with some bolts (catback, headers, throttlebody) Was really not that fast but from 0-30 it was much faster than the CLS i have now. Once you get up in MPH it was coughing and weezing.

Get him on the highway.
Yep. I raced a old modded 5.0 GT from a stop and he would get me off the line every time until about 50 where I would start to walk him down. Those things kinda remind me of a WRX of the line.
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Originally Posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Yep. I raced a old modded 5.0 GT from a stop and he would get me off the line every time until about 50 where I would start to walk him down. Those things kinda remind me of a WRX of the line.

Yeah, i miss that thing. Find that i used the lowdown power much more often than i use the old Vtech.

Old 12-10-2004, 08:00 PM
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I think the fact that its an auto will give you the edge. If he doesnt have gears & a converter, even bolt-ons arent gonna make it a 13 sec car.
Old 12-10-2004, 08:59 PM
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I recently ran up against a new stand v8 auto from off the line. He pulled on me because I spun up the front wheels in 1st and then a little in 2nd. But I soon stopped his pulling away and started to gain some back after going into 3rd. At 95 MPH I shut down and was only about 1 1/2 car lengths behind. If this had been a rolling start, I would have walked away and beat him by 4 or 5 cars; easily. If I got a better lunch off the line, I would have won by a couple of cars.
Old 12-10-2004, 09:55 PM
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Yeah but you have an SC + all the bolt-ons, so you should be able to beat even a mildly modded GT.

If you guys keep up all this "racing from a roll" line, you're gonna be the next 'Supra guys'.

Last time I checked funny cars dont race from a roll.
Old 12-10-2004, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jtkz13
Yeah but you have an SC + all the bolt-ons, so you should be able to beat even a mildly modded GT.

If you guys keep up all this "racing from a roll" line, you're gonna be the next 'Supra guys'.

Last time I checked funny cars dont race from a roll.
Last time I checked funny cars weren't FWD
Old 12-10-2004, 10:08 PM
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Old 12-11-2004, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jtkz13
Yeah but you have an SC + all the bolt-ons, so you should be able to beat even a mildly modded GT.

If you guys keep up all this "racing from a roll" line, you're gonna be the next 'Supra guys'.

Last time I checked funny cars dont race from a roll.
If the opportunity a rises, I'll race from off the line or a roller - I'm not partial. But off the line is really tough when the wheels just naturely want to spin; even with sticky tires. I'm guessing there's at least a one to two car length loss off the line because of the potential of wheel spin.
Old 12-11-2004, 10:53 PM
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i say just run for fun
Old 12-12-2004, 10:10 AM
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hell no, I wouldn't put money on this unless you made dam sure there was no spray and very, very few mods (i.e. strap on cone filter cat-back system)... simple fuel pressure adjustments, rip out various parts of the exhaust, those things get fast quickly
Old 12-14-2004, 07:17 PM
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Why not just run for fun? Does he have stock gears? What year is his stang? If he has stock gears, the intake mod is just a CAI and not complete upper/lower plenum, and he has full exhaust, it should be a close race, but I'd think you could win. If he's got a tired 302 w/ alot of miles, you should definitely win.......but I don't know what type of driver he is or you are. I've also seen 5.0's w/ intake, gears, exhaust and slicks run 12.5 @ 103......so anything's possible. Good luck...let us know how it turns out.
Old 12-15-2004, 02:23 PM
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5.0 aint fast...it really depend on how the maintain their 5.0 most of them are slow...unless they take care of it.
Old 12-18-2004, 01:36 AM
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If he wants to run you for money, but is real quiet about it... I definitely wouldn't run him. It seems at the track, the only cars that beat me are 5.0 mustangs. And you have *no* clue what they're going to run. One guy's 5.0 will run a laughable 17 second quarter, the next guy will run a 11 second quarter. They don't sound markedly different (both noisy). Then one guy will run a 9 second... although that guy LOOKED like he would run a 9 second or something close... (12 inch hoosiers I think.... freaking ridiculously wide)
Old 12-19-2004, 10:38 AM
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don't race him. Unless his is old and hasn't been maintained, he's going to rape you.
Old 12-22-2004, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ib_jimmy
5.0 aint fast...it really depend on how the maintain their 5.0 most of them are slow...unless they take care of it.
What planet are you on? MOST 5.0's are fast......cause by now they're either modded up the a$$ and those that haven't been more than not have since been put to pasture.

You live in TX - I know plenty of guys from my stang sites that live in TX. If you can't find any fast ones and would like to, I can find out where and when you can meet up.
Old 12-23-2004, 01:13 PM
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Run him, you should have no problem. I ran a stock 93 5.0 on my 97 3.0 and we were about even.
Old 12-23-2004, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by moforose3.0
Run him, you should have no problem. I ran a stock 93 5.0 on my 97 3.0 and we were about even.
as did i but it was from a roll wasnt it cause i raced it from a stop and that didnt go so well for me they have something over us 3.0's RWD and 100 pounds more torque
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i had a 1991 5.0 auto convertable with BBK intake, Bassani X pipe with flowmaster mufflers, .373 gears, and a crank pully and pulled at 14.4 at almost 96 mph

u will win, race for $$$$
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he will pull some until yall get into 2nd then its all u from there
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