0-60 W/ I/h/e???

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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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0-60 W/ I/h/e???

Anyone know the 0-60 in our cars with these mods, I did a search and found one person who Gtech'ed their car with headers and custom intake and there best time was 5.7 and worse was 6....? Anyone else done this yet? I know Gtech isnt the most reliable but...
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Linner
Anyone know the 0-60 in our cars with these mods, I did a search and found one person who Gtech'ed their car with headers and custom intake and there best time was 5.7 and worse was 6....? Anyone else done this yet? I know Gtech isnt the most reliable but...

0-60 is worthless man. In that run you cover such a short distance than a multitude of things can change or go wrong. Basically it isn't a very consistant measurement. The numbers you seen in car magazines are the VERY BEST run of the day; most likely out of 40-50 runs. Now I guess if you took the average of those runs it might be an okay measurement.

So in short, 0-60 with I/H/E on an auto probably 5.8, 6-speed 5.6. But again, totally useless. 1/4 mile is what tells you about performance. 0-60 tells you about the driver.
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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thanks mr steve, just trying to get an estimate of what the mods would shed of our 0-60 times
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Linner
thanks mr steve, just trying to get an estimate of what the mods would shed of our 0-60 times
What he was trying to say is the best measurement to use is not the 0-60 times but the 1/4 mile times.. You'll see many people on hear that go to the track and run 1/4 miles.

And the mods that would do it are: Headers, Intake, Exhaust, UR pulleys and depending on what car you have the UniChip..
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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yea 0-60 is an overated measurement now days, but in all honesty like mr. steve said 1/4 mile is where its at.

But my assumption would be 5.7-5.9 with and auto and with a 6 speed shed of .2-.3 ?
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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yea 0-60 is an overated measurement now days, but in all honesty like mr. steve said 1/4 mile is where its at.

But my assumption would be 5.7-5.9 with and auto and with a 6 speed shed of .2-.3 ?
Those numbers are too low for the auto. 5.7-5.9 would be more likely with the 6 speed not the auto
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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i get 6.0 0-60 stock on my 5AT CL-S

with those mods i would expect around 5.7-5.8
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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1320>0-60

theres not really an accurate way to do 0-60 testing, head to the track for some slips...
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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Well Ive seen plenty 1/4 times that u guys post, I was just curius to see if anyone knew the 0-60 time with the mods since alot of car company boast about 0-60 times in their commercials nowadays.
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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All stats are worthy if you know what to look for...

Originally Posted by Linner
Well Ive seen plenty 1/4 times that u guys post, I was just curius to see if anyone knew the 0-60 time with the mods since alot of car company boast about 0-60 times in their commercials nowadays.

I measured my 0..60 with AEM CAI, Comptech headers, SSR Comp wheels + Toyo T1S tires.

Car started out stock at 6.4 seconds with fumes + 60 degrees F.

All of the mods -- the wheels make a large difference -- ended up with 5.7-5.8 to 60. (Low temp [60-degree-F], very little gas [< 1/4 tank], multiple runs on the same stretch of road.)

I did this again and again on the same stretch of road. The GTech will NOT give dead on results due to the pitch error (another story, another day). It's use for "changes" in acceleration are useful. It is a tool -- period.

In any event, with the very light weight wheels, it's below 6 secs.

For a given drive configuration, CD, frontal area, etc, you will find a reasonable correlation between 0..60 and 1/4 mile. Time to speed and time to distance are two different things and EVERY measurement is useful -- if you know what to look for. For example, rolling starts are good for eliminating traction issues and engine-side inertia being dumped on manual cars. If the type of drive is similar FWD, AWD, and RWD, you will find "some" correlation between 0..60 and 1/4 mile.

BTW, there are some cars out there that will scoot though an intersection like crazy and don't do well at higher speeds. IOW, all stats are worthy.

And, for the 0..60 don't matter. What speed range/test approximates a run from dead stop to merging onto a freeway -- hey? We have plenty of "flow control" devices on our onramps...
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by darrinb
1320>0-60

theres not really an accurate way to do 0-60 testing, head to the track for some slips...

That's not true. The new Gtech, if used on a "flat" and smooth road corrects for pitch and yaw.

It has problems with bumpy roads. It doesn't have the 3 additional rate angle sensors that are needed to eliminate the errors due to bumps.

And, if you have a radar gun -- as the mag test guys do -- you will get very accurate results.
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EricL
That's not true. The new Gtech, if used on a "flat" and smooth road corrects for pitch and yaw.

It has problems with bumpy roads. It doesn't have the 3 additional rate angle sensors that are needed to eliminate the errors due to bumps.

And, if you have a radar gun -- as the mag test guys do -- you will get very accurate results.
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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he just wants to know his 0-60.....he doesn't care that you guys say "1/4 is the best way to measure performance"

let the man ask his question without people trying to explain a better situation. He just wants to know 0-60, thats it.
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Yea, Dan the man is right, quit trying to help..
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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how many tenths do u think the light weight wheels save..
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