0-60 with Icebox and Headers
05-03-2004, 09:48 PM
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0-60 with Icebox and Headers
Has anyone checked 0-60 time for the CL-S MT with Icebox and Comptech headers? Car stats lists the stock time as 5.9 seconds - just wondered if anyone had an idea of how many tenths might be shaved off with the mods.
05-03-2004, 10:53 PM
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Re: 0-60 with Icebox and Headers
Originally posted by Roady
Has anyone checked 0-60 time for the CL-S MT with Icebox and Comptech headers? Car stats lists the stock time as 5.9 seconds - just wondered if anyone had an idea of how many tenths might be shaved off with the mods.
Has anyone checked 0-60 time for the CL-S MT with Icebox and Comptech headers? Car stats lists the stock time as 5.9 seconds - just wondered if anyone had an idea of how many tenths might be shaved off with the mods.
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No way it would drop all the way to low 5's. Mostly likely around 5.5 with a good driver. It is hard to launch the 6speed. Traction would really hurt that 0-60 time because it would take 4 seconds most likely just to get to 40 MPH. Then you gotta shift to 2nd gear, that'll lose some time. (Times and MPH are all speculation because it is NEARLY impossible to get an accurate time)
Getting a car that weighs over 3600 pounds, FWD, on street tires to 60 in the low 5s is really tough.
It makes up for it in a longer distance like the quarter mile because it has time to stretch its legs and put all the HP to the ground instead of hopping or spinning off the line.
Getting a car that weighs over 3600 pounds, FWD, on street tires to 60 in the low 5s is really tough.
It makes up for it in a longer distance like the quarter mile because it has time to stretch its legs and put all the HP to the ground instead of hopping or spinning off the line.
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Originally posted by sonor kid
3.7 seconds
3.7 seconds
Only if the car was rear wheel drive, 1000 pounds lighter, and running one hell of a turbo, s/c, or NOS setup.... oh, and has a manual trans, too.
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is there any disavantages in having the icebox and headers???
Is the car noisier? Does it run as smooth at idle? Is there any thing to think of before putting it on?
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Is the car noisier? Does it run as smooth at idle? Is there any thing to think of before putting it on?
thanks
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maybe your mpg might go down cause of a heavier right foot, but the icebox and headers dont really change the tone of the engie unless you get a cai or exhaust
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Originally posted by UNCTYPE-S
u mean to tell me headers arent going to change the sound of the car?
u mean to tell me headers arent going to change the sound of the car?
05-06-2004, 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by mrkite
is there any disavantages in having the icebox and headers???
thanks
is there any disavantages in having the icebox and headers???
thanks
05-06-2004, 03:58 AM
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it doesnt mean much but id say low to mid 5's
it doesnt mean much but id say low to mid 5's
wow people must think our cars are REALLY fast... to hit 0-60 under 6 seconds would mean we'd be driving one of those STi/Evo/SRT-4 cars that accelerate like crazy cuz they weight like 20lbs to begin with
05-06-2004, 04:19 AM
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STi/EVO etc are sub 4 second with mods
Originally posted by brianlin87
WTF?!?!? wow people must think our cars are REALLY fast... to hit 0-60 under 6 seconds would mean we'd be driving one of those STi/Evo/SRT-4 cars that accelerate like crazy cuz they weight like 20lbs to begin with
WTF?!?!?
wow people must think our cars are REALLY fast... to hit 0-60 under 6 seconds would mean we'd be driving one of those STi/Evo/SRT-4 cars that accelerate like crazy cuz they weight like 20lbs to begin with
I hope your joking...
My 2001 CLS auto with light wheels (SSR Comps, Toyo 235/45-17 T1S, headers, AEM intake was doing 5.6-5.8 in 60 degree temps).
The GTech is going to be a bit off due to pitch error, but the stock 2001 CLS did 6.4 once broken in (no mods). I measured 5.7 second averages many times and in many different conditions and based on the 1/4 mile times, I have no doubt about mid-5 second runs being possible with a properly set up 6-speed, provided the driver is good, the road is good, and the car has light wheels and very sticky tires.
I’ve written a lot of stuff about what make the GTech work well and what makes it work poorly. If you are interested, use the search engine…
A WRX-STI will do crazy mid 4 second (and lower) 0..60 times with minimal mods. When you're talking 4-wheel drive, you're talking a whole different ballgame. When the Audi 4-wheel drive vehicles (RS6 and earlier S4) would take off at the start of the Speedvision GT series races, they would leave the 'Vetts, Bimmers, NSX + S/C, and all of the other high-HP cars sitting -- it really looked they were glued to the track.
05-06-2004, 05:16 AM
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Eric, how would i measure 0-60 off a timeslip?
example
60'- 2.08
330- 5.65
1/8- 8.6
mph- 83.37
example
60'- 2.08
330- 5.65
1/8- 8.6
mph- 83.37
05-06-2004, 01:41 PM
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The nomogram came from Nashau_Night_Hawk
Originally posted by mattg
Eric, how would i measure 0-60 off a timeslip?
example
60'- 2.08
330- 5.65
1/8- 8.6
mph- 83.37
Eric, how would i measure 0-60 off a timeslip?
example
60'- 2.08
330- 5.65
1/8- 8.6
mph- 83.37
Here's the relationship between 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. This was *NOT* a calculated table. We are dealing with the real world, here. I went through many magazines and pulled out the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times from road tests. I plotted the times on graph paper, and the result is a "real life" graph of 0-60 vs 1/4 mile. You can see that a car with a 0-60 time of 8.0 seconds is predicted to run close to 16 seconds flat. A 12.25 second car, like mine, is predicted to have a 0-60 of 4.0 seconds, although my computer program predicts 3.842. But the computer knows that I have good slicks (I told it). The "real world curve" doesn't know about my slicks. Darned close prediction, anyway! : )
Note that each light line is worth .33 seconds as you go from left to right, but each light line is only worth .25 seconds when you go up or down!
The nomogram is only good up to a point. For example, AWD is going to generally show BETTER 0..60 for a given 1/4 mile. Cars with high weight and low drag will also be a problem along with cars that have the converse problem of high drag and low weight.
Converting 1/4-mile to 0..60 is just for ballpark uses, if you don't know what your doing and what factors to consider, it is a tool that can be abused.
I just can't wait to see how many people say, "Gee I did the quarter in 13.4 so my 0..60 must be xxx..."
LINK to tech page (this came from Nashua):
http://home.earthlink.net/~tmahon281/tech.html
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