A-spec vs. Konis
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A-spec vs. Konis
I am almost at 50k and it is time for better handling. I enjoy taking corners in my TSX but, am tired of having wheel spin on corner exit from the body lean. I would like to reduce body lean in corners while maintaining a fairly smooth ride on the highway. I am not interested in lowering my car very far. I am trying to decide between the A-spec kit and Konis with stock springs. I like the idea of the A-spec kit but, the reviews on here don't seem great. I like the idea of the Konis because they are adjustable and I can install them on the lowest perch which will stiffen the stock springs. I have Konis on my Miata that I autocross and I am impressed with them. They are fairly comfortable on the softest setting and get hard enough on the hard setting. Has anyone driven cars with both set ups that can give me a comparison? Is there anyone in the Savannah, GA area with either set up?
#2
heel/toe is my specialty
I have the A-spec right now and it suits my needs for a DD. I will say that the inside wheels still spins endlessly due to the open diff and craptacular oem rubber.
I would guess that if you were to simply change the suspension you will still experience significant wheel spin.
I would guess that if you were to simply change the suspension you will still experience significant wheel spin.
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don't waste your money on aspec. they cost almost the same (like $100 difference). at least with koni you can adjust height and dampening. with aspec, what you see is what you get. if you put the koni on the softest setting, it will pretty much match the comfort of stock suspension but with better handling.
I haven't tried the setting on full firm yet but I set it halfway and it feels sporty.
I haven't tried the setting on full firm yet but I set it halfway and it feels sporty.
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I have the A-spec right now and it suits my needs for a DD. I will say that the inside wheels still spins endlessly due to the open diff and craptacular oem rubber.
I would guess that if you were to simply change the suspension you will still experience significant wheel spin.
I would guess that if you were to simply change the suspension you will still experience significant wheel spin.
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don't waste your money on aspec. they cost almost the same (like $100 difference). at least with koni you can adjust height and dampening. with aspec, what you see is what you get. if you put the koni on the softest setting, it will pretty much match the comfort of stock suspension but with better handling.
I haven't tried the setting on full firm yet but I set it halfway and it feels sporty.
I haven't tried the setting on full firm yet but I set it halfway and it feels sporty.
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http://www.neuspeed.com/products/pro...type=ns_import
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I am almost completely convinced about getting the neuspeed+konis on my 07 TSX, but donot know what perch to select, I read 2nd Front and Medium or 3rd Rear both from top to bottom will give you a one finger gap, but was wondering if any of you guys have photos with this combo to share.
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Keep in mind there are two versions of Konis for the TSX. One from TireRack and One from Neuspeed. The Neupeed one has more height adjustments which is probably what you are looking for.
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/pro...type=ns_import
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/pro...type=ns_import
I was refering to the ability to adjust the shocks from soft to hard.
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I had koni and eibach pro-kits on mine. I had the front set at 0 (middle) and the rear at -1. I thought the height and look was just right.
FYI, I did blow out one of my Konis. Not sure how. I still have to call Koni for warranty (lifetime).
FYI, I did blow out one of my Konis. Not sure how. I still have to call Koni for warranty (lifetime).
#16
heel/toe is my specialty
If they both cost the same I would also go with the Koni's. For the OP though the suspension may not be the only fix required for the wheel slip issue. Tires would be next on my list if the suspension didnt solve your problem.
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Back to my original questions:
Has anyone driven cars with both set ups that can give me a comparison?
Is there anyone in the Savannah, GA area with either set up?
Has anyone driven cars with both set ups that can give me a comparison?
Is there anyone in the Savannah, GA area with either set up?
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I got nuespeed/koni sp3, nuetral perch up front...tight 1 finger gap, lowest perch in the rear...little over a finger gap, set on the softest setting for now. Handles very well, stock-like, corners like it's on rails. I'm dropped on tein h-techs & also have a progress rsb. All this adds up to a perfect daily driver that handles exceptionally well imho.
Not knocking the aspec or nothing, but a buddy of mine has the aspec on his & after riding along a couple of times I gotta say GO KONI!!! but that's just me
You say you got konis on your miata so I'm pretty sure what I'm saying about the handling rings a bell. Just my 2 cents...happy hunting!
Not knocking the aspec or nothing, but a buddy of mine has the aspec on his & after riding along a couple of times I gotta say GO KONI!!! but that's just me
You say you got konis on your miata so I'm pretty sure what I'm saying about the handling rings a bell. Just my 2 cents...happy hunting!
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I got nuespeed/koni sp3, nuetral perch up front...tight 1 finger gap, lowest perch in the rear...little over a finger gap, set on the softest setting for now. Handles very well, stock-like, corners like it's on rails. I'm dropped on tein h-techs & also have a progress rsb. All this adds up to a perfect daily driver that handles exceptionally well imho.
Not knocking the aspec or nothing, but a buddy of mine has the aspec on his & after riding along a couple of times I gotta say GO KONI!!! but that's just me
You say you got konis on your miata so I'm pretty sure what I'm saying about the handling rings a bell. Just my 2 cents...happy hunting!
Not knocking the aspec or nothing, but a buddy of mine has the aspec on his & after riding along a couple of times I gotta say GO KONI!!! but that's just me
You say you got konis on your miata so I'm pretty sure what I'm saying about the handling rings a bell. Just my 2 cents...happy hunting!
#20
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don't bother with the A SPec kit. get the koni nuespeed. i have that and its well worth the money. I have mines at 0 front and -1 in the rear. perfect stance. Daily driver settings: 1 revolution in the front, .5 revolution in the rear. Rides lovely, still go over speed bump, handles great, but i also have a Comptech/CT engineering rear sway bar with energy suspension polyurathane bushing. All i need is LSD and better tires, i'll be on rails!
#21
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don't bother with the A SPec kit. get the koni nuespeed. i have that and its well worth the money. I have mines at 0 front and -1 in the rear. perfect stance. Daily driver settings: 1 revolution in the front, .5 revolution in the rear. Rides lovely, still go over speed bump, handles great, but i also have a Comptech/CT engineering rear sway bar with energy suspension polyurathane bushing. All i need is LSD and better tires, i'll be on rails!
#22
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LSD you can buy by itself. From what i read, the whole civic SI tranny comes with LSD and is a direct bolt on to our engine. That's my plan if i were to go with a LSD. Also lots of people say that the gearing in the SI is more suitable to performance minded people.
I think you'll like the set up. I was searching for nearly half a year. Was deciding between various set ups. Konis w. hr or eibach spring, tien basic / ss coil over system, aspec, and the neuspeed koni set up/different spring combo.
I ended up getting the neuspeed konis set up. since at that time, the set up is 600. while koni struts were going for 600 w/out the springs. that would have been 800 if i were to go with the koni w/ hr or eibach springs. So it's a no brainer to go with the neuspeed set. 600 for strut and spring + more height adjustments. sell the spring later if you dont like it and pick up another spring.
i don't adjust my height a lot so i dont need coil overs. i love the dampening adjustment on the konis too. i find myself adjusting that more than lowering/raising my car.
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