moda_way

I tried the following bushings from Summit Racing

ENS-9-5158G

Needless to say, the bushings fit GREAT!!! However, the brackets are too large for them to mount up using the stock holes. So, don't bother using them.

Took one for the R&D team on this one, but they were only $14, so no biggy.

amadeus303

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I got mine to fit... but it was a pain in the arse. Did you just use the Comptech/Progress brackets then?

moda_way

Yeah, I used the bushings and brackets with the Comptech kit. HOW IN THE HELL did you get the ones from Summit Racing to fit. They were a good 1/4" wider than the Comptech ones.

amadeus303

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Actually, I have no idea how the hell I did get them in Maybe it was mind over matter?

Aren't the ones from Summit Racing the Energy Suspension bushings? Before I put my Comptech bar in, I ordered these poly bushings so I could do the install all at once. My father-in-law helped me with it... it literally took 3 hours to do the damn (simple) install because of the awkwardness of the brackets...

I ran to the local hardware store and got slightly longer machine screws and a better offset ratchet to help... and I used the original washers that went with the stock bar because it looked like the screws could potentially go through the openings on the brackets. I'll take pictures if you want to see.... I'm actually planning on switching out my bar for the Progress one anyway to try to accomodate the Tanabe exhaust down the line...

moda_way

Yeah, I have the same ones from Summit. The are great looking bushings and since I have the Comptech exhaust, I have like a mile of clearence, so no issue for me. I'd say it took me about 1.5 hrs to do, but that is because I took the endlinks off the body and cleaned the threads up (livin' in the salt belt is HELL on under car mods). Anyway, I'd love pics. I'm going to look into the bolts too because I want those ploy bushings on the car.

Everyone was right, this is a mod ABSOLUTELY worth it. This changed my car as much as lowering did.

I used the washers provided with the kit as both the Comptech and Energy Suspension bracket holes were large enough for the bolts to pass through under torque.

jlukja

Thanks moda, the needs of the many out weigh the $14 of the few.

moda_way

Sounds like amadeus303 got them to work, so I'm still hopeful.

minkl81

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This greaseable bushings are from energy suspension right?
I got this bushings to find if the clunking sound will go away after installing comptech rsb and the brackets definitely do not fit.
But I installed my bushings at a shop and they actually squeezed the brackets to narrow down the distance. Mechanic was pretty much pissed trying to install the bracket because it would not fit in. But its on now. Hopefully everything stays fit.

After the install, clunking pretty much dissapeared. Bushings provided by comptech seemed very thin on the upper part when compared with energy suspension's bushings. Maybe that was why it was making clunking noise??

joerockt

If they were the Enegry Suspenson ones, I didnt have any problem fitting the brackets

moda_way

Got pics? Did you have to squeeze the bracket?

These are no where close, IMO, I tried a few times to get the bolts in, was even considering doing some enlarging of the holes, but didn't want to cut the brackets until I figured out if anyone on the forum used them successfully.

amadeus303

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I'll take pics of underneath the car, but it'll have to wait until the weekend… unless you want to snap some Joe? I work until about 6-6:30pm everyday, and have about a 1-2 hour commute home depending on the traffic, so by the time I get home, it's already dark outside. It WAS a pain in the ass, but once I got the screws to catch, it was just a matter of torquing them tight. To be completely honest, fitting the washers between the screwhead and bracket were what gave me the trouble MORESO than the bracket. I didn't have to squeeze the bracket at all.

amadeus303

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Joe... did you use the greasable type bushings/brackets from Energy Suspension too?

minkl81

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How?? I saw the holes when installing brackets and there is no way to fit the screws in unless brackets are squeezed.

JTso

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If the brackets don't fit, I don't think squeezing them is the correct approach. The bushings might be distorted as the result...

My non-greasable version fits perfectly.

minkl81

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That's what I think too, but it's better than clunking I believe.
So somes fit and somes dont. Could energy sus. made different versions?

moda_way

Which ones did you order (including part #)?


I mean, mine are some thick bastards, just like the pic I included; nothing as thin as the Comptech ones.

joerockt

I dont, but I could take some when I get a chance.

But I shit you not, I used the brackets they came with as is.

moda_way

I definitely believe you, which is why I question it. Makes me think, wtf did I do differently. Guess you wouldn't recall the part number you ordered?

joerockt

Not off the top of my head, but there is a thread around here that JTso started I think with the exact part number I ordered.

I'll check...

joerockt

Here we go, post #8...Is that the same thing you ordered?

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...+sway+bushings

joerockt

And I could have sworn this is the exact part:

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...rds=&ShowMe=30

JTso

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I can look up the part number when I get home. Here is a pic of the bushing installed. The ES bracket is the same size as the Comptech or Progress.

joerockt

Alright, I figured it out. There are 3 different part numbers for the 22mm bushings

The one you got moda I would say is the wrong one:
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...5158&ShowMe=30

What is that on the bracket? A greasing point? Whatever it is, that whole bracket dosent look right.

Here are the 2 part #'s that should work:
95126
95108

And besides a buck fiddy, not sure if there is any difference between those two. But there is a noticable difference from the one you have.

Arcticcl9

I also used the energy suspension bushings for my comptech RSB. I used the graphite empregnated (sp?) ones. I used the energy suspension brackets also, but I kept the stock bolt but removed the smallish stock washers from it (they were PITA to remove) and used the bigger washers when I installed the brackets

moda_way

I'm guessing mine match to the 95158 ones and they definitely are bigger. So the question now is which ones do I need.

JTso

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I have the 95126G.

JTso

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ES now has poly bushings for the stock front and rear bar.

Front (25.4mm) = 16.5137
Rear (15mm) = 16.5138

moda_way

That explains it then. I have the greaseable kind. However, I matched them up to the stock and they look like they would work if I could avoid having to use a washer.

moda_way

Check it, here are some photos ENS-9-5158G Summit Racing part # verses the Stock set:

JTso

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Here is 95126



Comparing to 95158



Here is 95108



95158 and 95108 are the same size. That's why 95126 fits the best.

moda_way

Well, I was right on one part... it is EXACTLY a 1/4" difference. Put a washer in there and we're at 3/8" difference. I guess if I want poly, I'll need the 95126 and forget about the grease fitting.

amadeus303

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Ryan... those are the same exact ones I have. Hmmmm... I guess I will have to take pictures to prove that they do in fact fit without modification. I didn't have to squeeze them at all, or grind the washer into the bracket. They should be exactly the same dimensions as the one that Joe put on his, except mine have the Zenk nozzles to allow for easy greasing. The part number was 95158G.

JTso

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Well, if the difference is small, then you might be able to mod the washer to fit. Just trim one side of the washer so it looks like this D. The flat side will go against the bushing.

Honestly, I have those greaseable poly bushings on my Prelude and I have yet need to grease them. I only applied the grease during installation like I did to all my other cars. No noise from any of them. Some of them have been on for many years.

moda_way

Nice call.

See, I told you you were mod master!!

I'm going to try it this weekend. Would be nice to have poly and the grease fitting. I know I'll have to make the slots a little bigger near the bushing, but shouldn't be but an 1/8" on each side. Will post my success.

moda_way

How much driving does the Lude get? My TSX is a daily and sees every weather condition.

JTso

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The lude is a daily driver and sees every condition as well. The silicone lube stays on quite well and doesn't wash off easily.

minkl81

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so cliff notes...
what is the right part number for correct fitting?

guess i'll have to check part number for mine...

moda_way

Go with 95126G (at summitracing.com it is ENS-9-5126G), but this isn't the one with the grease fitting.

I've almost finished modifing mine and I'll be checking to see if they work soon. I've been somewhat busy doing key mods, so I barely have time to get under the car.

Summit has the ENS-16-5137G (front non-grease fitting), but it won't be available until 11/22/2005 per their site.

moda_way

Go with 95126G (at summitracing.com it is ENS-9-5126G), but this isn't the one with the grease fitting.

I've almost finished modifing mine and I'll be checking to see if they work soon. I've been somewhat busy doing key mods, so I barely have time to get under the car.

Summit has the ENS-16-5137G (front non-grease fitting), but it won't be available until 11/22/2005 per their site.

jlukja

I think he got the point the first time.