925tsx

This is for people who have the progress RSB. Do you have it on the softest setting, or the more firm setting?
Planning on installing mine this wknd and want some opinions on how the car drives on either setting.

matvey

Put in on firmest and drive for a week. If you think it's too firm (I don't think you will) you can change it to softest.

MBA

msmching

^^^^^^^^^^^^ +1

KingTSX

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I have had it on the softest (furthest from the welds)..and then the firmest (closest to the welds). I also have the Tein SS coilovers installed, so the change from stock is unreal. My opinion, after running both ways, is to have it on the firmest setting

godfather2

firm setting here

speedy0222

I have it on the firm setting. I wanted to extract the maximum performance out of the bar and I didn't want to have to adjust it again.

etarui

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Firmest!

subdued

firm

tsxman04

Firm setting. Noticeable improvement in handling. Have not personally encountered any detrimental characteristics since installing even during spirited driving.

925tsx

IM so anxious to get this thing installed.

Reach

Firm +1. You'll enjoy it!

SHYUperman

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another vote for firm

925tsx

do the rear wheels need to be off the ground to install the sway?

MrHeeltoe

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Well, it will be a ton easier if they are.

Simba91102

It seems to me that I've read here of installs done without taking the wheels off, but I don't see how. I had trouble getting the new bar in even with the wheels off (I had to drop the exhaust system off the two muffler hangers on each side). I was a mechanic in the bad old days, but I still know my way around things mechanical (and I still have almost every hand tool known to man). I swapped out the OE end links for the MOOG replacements at the same time and so far so good. I took my time and it took me most of an afternoon from start to finish.

925tsx

so who in north jersey is comming over friday night to help me install this thing?

MrHeeltoe

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The wheels don't need to come off the car, but they certainly need to come off the ground...my opinion.

925tsx

wow that was the easiest install ever.
That RSB was well worth the money. Its a whole different feel now. I can actually drive like i did in my 2004.
im sooooooooooo happy..

Power1Pete

Markks2000

Did you go right to the firmest setting, or start with the softer setting?

925tsx

firmest.

Wisc Badger

i LOVE my progress RSB... doesn't it make the car feel so much quicker out of turns.

Zyuan10

i generally find my TSX to feel the same as before the installation and I have it on the firmest (to confirm, the inner most hole). Am I not turning fast enough? xD

stegon78

Contrary to other peoples opinion, I enjoyed mine in the softest setting. I initially set mine to the firmist but it felt too stiff and unbalanced ( maybe because I only lowered my car with tein type h) But after I change the setting to softest, it felt more natural and predictable. Even the softest setting still gives significantly improved handling compare to stock. Just my toughts.

MrHeeltoe

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If you had Htechs then it makes sense that the softer setting felt better. The sway is best matched to the aggressiveness of your setup. Although firmer in the back should definitely make the car feel better in turns either way regardless of suspension.

zidenx

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I have a question, I have the buddy club N+ installed on my TSX, will I feel a big difference if I were to install the progress swaybar?

MrHeeltoe

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Yes. It really would not matter what suspension you had...an rsb will make the car handle flatter.

Simba91102

Hate to admit it, but my experience has been the same. With Koni yellows set the lowest and 235/45x17's on 8" wheels, I wasn't sure what this install would do for me. I'm afraid it doesn't seem to have done too much. I'm fairly aggressive when and where possible, but the car doesn't feel a whole lot different. I'm not going to do something stupid just to try and find the limit (although I do subscibe to the theory that supposes "you don't know how fast you can go until you know how fast you can't go".

montebello13

i installed it at Softest (im pretty sure i saw JTSO recommend doing so)

Felt a noticable difference right away, but after a couple weeks, i guess i got used to it and dont' notice it at all now.

i gotta go back under and install the Moog endlinks now, maybe i'll change it to firm at the same time.

MrHeeltoe

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I doubt the links will noticeably change the feel. I don't think the TSX links are that weak. Are they really that bad?

Marcus

MrHeeltoe

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Hmmm, that might not be the greatest idea. Why not try reinstalling the stock one? I have found that mods tend to be more noticeable when you remove them than when you install them.

JTso

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I think you got me confused with someone else. I use the firmest setting as the softest setting won't even work with my lowered car. The endlinks will interfere with the mounting brackets due to the ride height change.

Simba91102

Thanks for the input, but I'm still experiencing the new setup. The ride seems to have firmed up a little, but not at all objectionable in my opinion. The car handles quite well and corners very flat. I guess my earlier observations were more a compliment on how well the car rode and handled with just the shock and tire/wheel upgrade. The rear bar change was probably unnecessary, but it was something that I just wanted to do (like many mods; once you get the bug.....).
I also did the end link change; they're quite cheap (in a mod sense), and they do look so much beefier (the MOOG replacements really are a nice piece of work; the grease fittings are icing on the cake. Too bad they're so hidden). That said, I kind of agree with what you expressed elsewhere on this thread concerning replacement. The two OE links I replaced were still almost like new (aside from the rusty studs which made removal an exercise in time and patience), and this after 60K miles and 2 New England winters. After I had them out and cleaned up, I started to wonder what this was all in aide of. I'll leave this setup on the 05 until it's time to get rid of the car and then I'll just move everything over to the 07. I'm planning on doing an A-spec suspension upgrade at the same time, so I think I'll get my moneys' worth of the bar and link upgrade.

montebello13

sorry, if it wasn't you jtso. i read a bunch of threads on the RSBs and there were a couple discussing which one was better and a couple threads with supposed problems related to the RSBs. I guess it was someone else who said that.

when i said i was going to install the moog endlinks, i didn't mean that i was doing it as a performance mod or anything, it was more of a re-assurance mod. I only mentioned it since i was going to install it at the same time i was going to try the hard setting on the RSB.

back to the topic, it seems the RSB on the stock suspension can only do so much, lower the car seems like it would help so much more (and perhaps put less stress on the RSB which means less stress on the endlinks and mounts). i've been lookin at the tokicos w/ some tiens...

i still like the RSB and for the $135 i paid (actually my gf bought it as a gift), i still think its well worth the money.

MrHeeltoe

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I understand the "reassurance" metality, but reassurance against what? That is what I am wondering. It seems like it is a modification done for the sake of making another modification. I am wondering if there are problems with the stock links at all.

In actuality, but lowering the car and upgrading the suspension you are enabling the the sway bar to do less work. As the stock shocks and springs are soft with long travel, the sway bar is doing the most work on a stock suspension. Lowering the car does move the sway bar's geometry, but as long as the links are not forced out of their range of travel there is no more or less stress on them.

Yes, the RSB by all accounts is a great bang for the buck! This cost/benefit ratio is a little less favorable when people start getting bushings and links they don't need though, and it just causes me to ask "why?"

Marcus