G-Games Sidewinders vs. Axis Decades

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Old 08-11-2006, 11:58 AM
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G-Games Sidewinders vs. Axis Decades

I'm torn between these two wheels for my '06 TSX:

G-Games Sidewinders

Axis Decades

They look similiar, though the Axis wheels look more like the 2-pc Sidewinders which I prefer over the 1-pc wheels.

From what I've been reading Axis wheels are knock-offs while G-Games are the lower-end brand from Ray's, so I don't know which ones would be more durable.

I found the G-Games (+48) on wheelsdirectonline packaged with Kumho AST 225/40/18s, and I found the Axis (+45) on eBay packaged with Goodyear Essenza 210 225/40/18s for about $200 more than the G-Games.

What do you guys think? Please help a clueless noob out...
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axis decades looks very similar to G games sidewinder two piece..

axis


g games sidewinder 2 piece
Old 08-11-2006, 12:04 PM
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perhaps, they are the same...
i'd choose g games over axis..
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Yeah, I realized they look the same (as I mentioned in my original post). That's why I'm thinking the Axis wheels are knock-offs of the G-Games 2-pcs.

The reason why I probably won't get the 2-pc Sidewinders is because they only come in 19" (disco the 18").
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Whats the weight difference?
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i think sidewinders come in 18s
Old 08-11-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by narci
Whats the weight difference?
Good question...not sure.

To be honest, I'm not as interested in the weight difference because I doubt it'd be more than 2-3 lbs/wheel.

I'm just wondering if going with the Axis wheels will piss me off in the long run because of questionable durability. Also, the Axis have a lip so I want to know if they might look smaller than they should because of this.
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Originally Posted by San-AnT
i think sidewinders come in 18s
Yeah, the 1-pc Sidewinders I listed are 18s. However, the 2-pc Sidewinders (which resemble the Axis Decades) are discontinued in 18s - they now only come in 19s and are fairly hard to come by from what I understand.
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they are discontinued in 19s also, if its the look you like, i would choose the axis because the g games are discontinued, and if you bend a rim, you wont be able to replace it, at least with the axis you can.....dont get me wrong, i love my sidewinders, but i'm affraid of bending or damaging it then i'm screwed
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Originally Posted by hawaiiantsx
they are discontinued in 19s also, if its the look you like, i would choose the axis because the g games are discontinued, and if you bend a rim, you wont be able to replace it, at least with the axis you can.....dont get me wrong, i love my sidewinders, but i'm affraid of bending or damaging it then i'm screwed
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Really? Last time I talked to Discount Tire, they told me they were expecting a shipment of the 2-pc 19" Sidewinders in a few weeks. Where did you hear the 19s were disco as well?

I do prefer the look of the Axis over the 1-pc Sidewinders, but I'm still kinda worried that the Axis are of lesser quality (as someone at WheelsDirect.com told me) and that they'd be more prone to bend than the G-Games wheels. What do you think?


(btw, hawaiian, seeing your car is the reason why I wanted the 2-pc Sidewinders in the first place ...love the way they look on a SSM/ASM)
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g-games > axis, get the real thing
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Originally Posted by DAYTA
Really? Last time I talked to Discount Tire, they told me they were expecting a shipment of the 2-pc 19" Sidewinders in a few weeks. Where did you hear the 19s were disco as well?

I do prefer the look of the Axis over the 1-pc Sidewinders, but I'm still kinda worried that the Axis are of lesser quality (as someone at WheelsDirect.com told me) and that they'd be more prone to bend than the G-Games wheels. What do you think?


(btw, hawaiian, seeing your car is the reason why I wanted the 2-pc Sidewinders in the first place ...love the way they look on a SSM/ASM)
thanks man....hmmm....they were the ones that told me they were disco....and i've heard it from quite a few people also....i guess you could get the true answer from rays themselves....hope you get what you really want....( its the g-games)
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If you can get them, go for the G-gameS!
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Originally Posted by drunkenbuda
If you can get them, go for the G-gameS!
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Just curious...why does everyone say the G-Games?

Is it because:

a) Axis are knock-offs.

or

b) G-Games are of superior quality.
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Originally Posted by DAYTA
Just curious...why does everyone say the G-Games?

Is it because:

a) Axis are knock-offs.

or

b) G-Games are of superior quality.
c) Both of the above
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The 18'' axis liped knocked off will probably look small on the TSX. Even the 1 piece sidewinder looks OK. 19" is best looking size.

Try to see which Wheels is more expensive. I dont see any reason those knockoff cost more. Try to compare with the same type of tires.
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The fact that the g-games are made by rays (made in japan) says it all
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I've had Axis wheels in the past. Every single car I've ever owned has had aftermarket rims on. I've had SSR, Work, BBS, Enkei, Axis, Borbet, and Impul rims. The Axis rims were the ONLY rims I've ever had problems with. I cracked the lip on my Axis rims - TWICE! None of the other rims ever bent or cracked so I would say that Axis rims would probably be less durable than the G-Games made by Volk.

The thing I don't like about Axis rims in general is that they are trying to upmarket their brand. They cost more than cheap knockoffs like Rotas or ASA or HP Racing, et. al, but they are really no better in terms of quality and durability.

Get the G-games. I also agree w/ those who mention that the larger lip on the Axis will make the rim look smaller.
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
I've had Axis wheels in the past. Every single car I've ever owned has had aftermarket rims on. I've had SSR, Work, BBS, Enkei, Axis, Borbet, and Impul rims. The Axis rims were the ONLY rims I've ever had problems with. I cracked the lip on my Axis rims - TWICE! None of the other rims ever bent or cracked so I would say that Axis rims would probably be less durable than the G-Games made by Volk.

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just a small correction....g-games are made by rays who makes volks also.....
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Id get the G-Games.. Rays make good products plus ppl will know which rims you are talking about when you tell them and I bet they have a better resell value if u ever sell them.. go for the REAL thing..!!!
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The G-Games in 1 piece actually come in +55 offset in 18x8.5". This would be a great fit on the TSX.
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