thought i would share what happened last night
I was coming home around midnight when I see a new a4 at a red. I slowed down but the light turned green. I passed him and at 3rd gear going 25 when i hear him punch it. I down it to 2nd as soon as his next to me and go all the way to 2nd red line. I had him about a bumper b4 he exited out. My car is totally stock 05 6spd. My first run with this car, happy it turned out way it did

 

An 06 A4 6MT is capable of mid 6's to 60 and high 14's, slightly quicker with DSG. Should be quicker than a stock TSX. Of course from a roll who knows.

 

From a standing start, the A4 probably has an advantage (though don't forget that the A4 is heavier than the TSX by a decent amount so the advantage may not be as much as one might think).

From a roll, the A4 looses a lot of the advantage because of the turbo needing time to spool. Even if that time is measured in tenths of a second, it can be a big difference in such a short distance.

 

DSG is actually quicker than a 6spd A4 from a standstill? I would think the wheelspin if done correctly, would give the advantage back to the ol' clutch / shifter regardless if the DSG is .000000002341 seconds faster.

The SMG M3's even admit that the 6-MT's are quicker than them from a standstill due to the ability to rev+dump the clutch.

 

From everything I've read, yes. But I don't know for certain.

 

wow didnt realize that the new a4's were capable of mid 6 to 60. speed limit was 45 and i didnt want to go too much higher so i stoped at 2nd redline. He made a immediate right as soon as he saw me brake, I'm guessing he didnt like the results. I wanted to ask him if it was manual or DSG

 

but dsg > smg

 

But the main difference is not the shifting time it is the launch, the manual allows high RPM clutch dumps the SMG at least has a nuetered (for NA) launch control, my understanding is the DSG doesn't have LC in the US yet. Three pedal cars will have faster 60' times until a manufacturer is brave enough to let a full on LC come to the drag capital of the world, though it won't happen due to warranty issues, easy to deny a clutch replacement on a 3 pedal car, harder when you just use a feature of the car.

 

Just read in Motor Trend or Automobile, that LC will be available on the next GTI....the Germans are surely ahead in the transmission game.

 

Go drive any VW/Audi product with DSG and you'll be amazed. That's the best transmission on the market IMO across all makes and models.

 

The DSG is a truly sweet piece of kit. My wife's A3 has one.

But no A4s have them. So the A4 that HoOnzABPTSX encountered was likely a slushbox. It might have even been a front wheel drive CVT.

And no 2.0T A4 is anywhere in the 6s. This from Audi's site about the 2.0T models:
0-60 mph in seconds: 7.1 (FrontTrak manual models), 7.3 (multitronic CVT with FrontTrak and 6-speed manual with quattro), 7.5 (6-speed Tiptronic with quattro)
Top track speed: 130 mph*
EPA fuel economy estimates (city/highway)*:
multitronic: 24/32
manual, FrontTrak: 23/34
manual, quattro: 22/31
Tiptronic: 22/30

The 3.2 A4s are a different story, perhaps that's what dom is thinking of.

 

DSG's/SMG's can be quicker than MTs.

BMWs SMG doesn't really compare to Audi's DSG - it's a marvel really. No manufacturer has gotten anywhere near the refinement in a semi-manual as Audi/VW has.

Specs for A3 2.0T:
0-60 mph in seconds: 6.7 (DSG); 6.9 (6-speed manual)
Top track speed: 130 mph*
EPA fuel economy estimates (city/highway)*:
DSG: 25/31
manual: 24/32