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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Question Accord engine in Tsx...

Was anyone concerned with having the 166hp honda engine in the honda errr acura tsx pushed to 205hp with same displacement and extra 500+rpm's to redline? Dealer told me the tsx engine is the same engine as the honda accord, obviously modified to 205hp.

Previous car was '02 acura tl-s and that thing blew chunks.. 3 transmissions later at <50k miles, its sold.

Still, i'm considering a tsx so I was hoping someone else already had this concern to know how reliable the tsx engine really is? along with the tranny.

Thanks for the help..
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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The two engines share a block, but the specifics of the pistons, cams, and heads are different. The TSX achieves its additional power through these changes plus a higher compression ratio.

As for reliability, it is a Honda engine. Honda engines pretty much last forever.

With regards to the transmission, there haven't been many, if any cases of transmission failure that have been reported thus far.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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I have a 04 TSX 5AT with 75,000+ miles on it. I don't have any problem... (except if you consider the rattle noise is a problem... of course...)

So, this should make you feel better.


P.S. The guy in "Bowling in Columbine" says that people in Canada don't lock their doors in their house... I seriously doubt that what he shows in the movie is true... That guy is just making this up... Is that true that you guys in Canada don't lock the doors in your house?
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Yeah, i really think that movie was off about neighborhoods... I know where i'm going when i need extra cash if those nuts keep their doors open

Anyhoo... any more input on the engine.. I know its a honda... but so was the tranny in my TL....

And pushing an engine block that creates 166hp to create 205hp concerns me a little, but maybe i'm paranoid with a bad taste leftover from previous car. who knows...
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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I have an '04 5AT TSX with just under 26K on it and no tranny problems so far. I haven't really heard of any AT problems yet, come to think of it.

I think you're fine...go for the TSX!!
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kjb219
Yeah, i really think that movie was off about neighborhoods... I know where i'm going when i need extra cash if those nuts keep their doors open

Anyhoo... any more input on the engine.. I know its a honda... but so was the tranny in my TL....

And pushing an engine block that creates 166hp to create 205hp concerns me a little, but maybe i'm paranoid with a bad taste leftover from previous car. who knows...

This is my 3rd Honda.

My first was a 93 Civic DX with 130k on it. The second was a 2001 Accord VP with 80k. None of them had any problem.

Maybe you got the transmission that was made by Isuzu. Many Honda parts were made by Isuzu.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bz268
P.S. The guy in "Bowling in Columbine" says that people in Canada don't lock their doors in their house... I seriously doubt that what he shows in the movie is true... That guy is just making this up... Is that true that you guys in Canada don't lock the doors in your house?
The guy's a loose gun.

Back to topic, the K24A2 has not many similar engine parts to the Accord except for the block itself.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kjb219
Yeah, i really think that movie was off about neighborhoods... I know where i'm going when i need extra cash if those nuts keep their doors open

Anyhoo... any more input on the engine.. I know its a honda... but so was the tranny in my TL....

And pushing an engine block that creates 166hp to create 205hp concerns me a little, but maybe i'm paranoid with a bad taste leftover from previous car. who knows...
Yes, paranoid is probably the best explanation. We're strocked more, different cam profile, different fuel mapping, and a host of other things.

The K-Series motors are the best large production motors Honda has ever made.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Yes, paranoid is probably the best explanation. We're strocked more, different cam profile, different fuel mapping, and a host of other things.

The K-Series motors are the best large production motors Honda has ever made.


Honda engines are rock solid.

Your bad experience with the tl tranny (auto, right?) should not reflect on Honda engines. Correct me if I am wrong guys, auto tranny just happens to be Honda's weak link, right? And that's probably their ONLY weak link. But judging from the track record of the 5AT TSX around here, seems like the auto tranny is OK now too!

No worry about the engine man!
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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thanks for all the input.. Gf is buying one this week... as soon as we talk to all the dealerships in area.. Best price so far for 6MT with nav is $30k.

we're in Hbg, PA area..
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP


Honda engines are rock solid.

Your bad experience with the tl tranny (auto, right?) should not reflect on Honda engines. Correct me if I am wrong guys, auto tranny just happens to be Honda's weak link, right? And that's probably their ONLY weak link. But judging from the track record of the 5AT TSX around here, seems like the auto tranny is OK now too!

No worry about the engine man!
Aside from the Prelude's AT, seems like there are issues with any A/T strapped to a J series motor.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Yeah the engine is solid. I have almost 40K miles on my car and use to rev to 7600 RPMs all the time with no problems.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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^^ i'll agree to that also. 3rd gear on my 5AT is the abused bastard child - it sees the most high-revs of all the gears...and i'm at 26k miles now. no oil comsumption, no gear hunting, no rough shifts.

the engine sounds like the first day i took her home....(knocks on wood)
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
Aside from the Prelude's AT, seems like there are issues with any A/T strapped to a J series motor.
Please enlighten me as to which cars (year range too) has J motor.

The Prelude I had has the H22 (not sure if there's any A or something trailing) but it was MT anyway
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Please enlighten me as to which cars (year range too) has J motor.

The Prelude I had has the H22 (not sure if there's any A or something trailing) but it was MT anyway
J series are all the current V6 motors. Only the Prelude with the H series AND AT had issues.... all the MTs on the Preludes are solid.

I wasn't saying the Prelude had a J series... two separate statements... sorry.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Yeah the engine is solid. I have almost 40K miles on my car and use to rev to 7600 RPMs all the time with no problems.
I bet you can't rev to 7600 rpm anymore.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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Back to topic, the K24A2 has not many similar engine parts to the Accord except for the block itself.
Uh just to clarify, he's talking about the 4 cylinder, not the 6. Just in case anyone was thinking otherwise....I know it's a duh statement but you never know how things get interpreted.

A bit off topic, but GM does utilize a similar approach with it's 5.7L V8 and the 4.3L V6. It's almost exactly the same everything, they just chop two cylinders off in their casting and balance off a few other things. That's why the latest Blazers got some unbelievably horrble gas mileage similar to a V8. Just a tid bit...thought I'd mention.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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Uh just to clarify, he's talking about the 4 cylinder, not the 6. Just in case anyone was thinking otherwise....I know it's a duh statement but you never know how things get interpreted.

A bit off topic, but GM does utilize a similar approach with it's 5.7L V8 and the 4.3L V6. It's almost exactly the same everything, they just chop two cylinders off in their casting and balance off a few other things. That's why the latest Blazers got some unbelievably horrble gas mileage similar to a V8. Just a tid bit...thought I'd mention.
Which is why GM and Ford is losing money, firing workers, and closing factories...
GM's stock
Ford's stock

And Honda's share in the market is rising...
Honda's stock
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by moda_way
J series are all the current V6 motors. Only the Prelude with the H series AND AT had issues.... all the MTs on the Preludes are solid.

I wasn't saying the Prelude had a J series... two separate statements... sorry.
Thanks for the last statement to clear that up before it goes any further... coz I was already like "which Prelude has V6 engine?!?! I never knew that!!! " haha...

Yup, the 5MT on the Prelude I had and the 6MT on the TSX I have are solid
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