what is my clutch smoking?!
what is my clutch smoking?!
Got in the car today and it feels like the engagement point is now down at the floor! It feels really wiered pushing in the clutch pedal now. It's like all smooth right up to the floor and then about an inch above it tenses up for the engagement point. What's going on here? please help, i'm a total MT newbie.
what exactly is fyring the clutch? I never had anyone teach me what to do really but I was pretty certain I was doing everything correctly. Never rode the clutch and always put it right down to the floor whenever I shifted.
How quick are your shift, from start? How long are you on the clutch pedal in order to get your car to start moving? This is probably the point that your clutch is under the most stress. How much gas (RPMs) are you sending to the engine during this period? If you shift correctly, then it's probably some other problem.
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Originally posted by phirenze
I usually give it a fair amount of gas, mabye 3500 rpms and let off the clutch slow enough to keep the start smooth.
I usually give it a fair amount of gas, mabye 3500 rpms and let off the clutch slow enough to keep the start smooth.
That's a bit too much. Try 2000 in the future. It'll still be plenty smooth and your clutch will thank you.Edit: I know you didn't ask, but I usually rev it to 1500, let the clutch grab a bit and drag it down to about 1000 by the time the clutch pedal is all the way out.
Edit again: "clutchpiffy" I like it!
Originally posted by phirenze
I usually give it a fair amount of gas, mabye 3500 rpms and let off the clutch slow enough to keep the start smooth.
I usually give it a fair amount of gas, mabye 3500 rpms and let off the clutch slow enough to keep the start smooth.
this is what your clutch looks like while you do that....
Ok went out driving today and quickly adapted to the 2,000 rmp start from a standsill. Is it ok though to shift out of first at high rpms (like 4500)? When I let out the clutch into 2nd it feels soooooo good.
:wackit:
Also, why do my gears grind terribly when I put my car into reverse every morning?
:wackit:
Also, why do my gears grind terribly when I put my car into reverse every morning?
Originally posted by phirenze
Ok went out driving today and quickly adapted to the 2,000 rmp start from a standsill.....
Ok went out driving today and quickly adapted to the 2,000 rmp start from a standsill.....
You can shift OUT of first at any RPM you're comfortable with. No problem there. Not sure about the reverse thing... Is the shifter popping out and grinding (happened to me once), or is it just not going into the gate well (and grinding)?
Originally posted by phirenze
Ok went out driving today and quickly adapted to the 2,000 rmp start from a standsill. Is it ok though to shift out of first at high rpms (like 4500)? When I let out the clutch into 2nd it feels soooooo good.
:wackit:
Also, why do my gears grind terribly when I put my car into reverse every morning?
Ok went out driving today and quickly adapted to the 2,000 rmp start from a standsill. Is it ok though to shift out of first at high rpms (like 4500)? When I let out the clutch into 2nd it feels soooooo good.
:wackit:
Also, why do my gears grind terribly when I put my car into reverse every morning?
Here a little drill that will make you an expert... go to a flat parking lot. Practice getting your car going without using the gas but without riding your clutch either. It can be done without the car hopping or stalling. If you can swing this and get the clutch fully engaged in about 2-3 seconds you now know the way to shift that will least harm your transmission.
Originally posted by DEVO
Here a little drill that will make you an expert... go to a flat parking lot. Practice getting your car going without using the gas but without riding your clutch either. It can be done without the car hopping or stalling. If you can swing this and get the clutch fully engaged in about 2-3 seconds you now know the way to shift that will least harm your transmission.
Here a little drill that will make you an expert... go to a flat parking lot. Practice getting your car going without using the gas but without riding your clutch either. It can be done without the car hopping or stalling. If you can swing this and get the clutch fully engaged in about 2-3 seconds you now know the way to shift that will least harm your transmission.
and revving to 3500rpm??? haha, that's way too high
Originally posted by donutchow
won't the car stall if you just let off the clutch with no gas? i've never tried it with no gas, but when i first started driving stick that's how i stalled.
and revving to 3500rpm??? haha, that's way too high
won't the car stall if you just let off the clutch with no gas? i've never tried it with no gas, but when i first started driving stick that's how i stalled.
and revving to 3500rpm??? haha, that's way too high
it will stall if you do it wrong... that's the drill.
Proper way to drive a manual shift
I know a top Honda tech (NSX tech in Phoenix) who is known in the NSX community as one of the best NSX techs in the country. He offers lots of advice to our NSX community and this is his recommendation on driving a manual shift properly.
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The simple way I teach my customers to get max life from their clutches is to just remember one thing - the clutch only wears while the pedal is moving. The faster you get the clutch pedal off the floor and to 'rest' position, the less life you have used up. If you slide the pedal nice and easy, with plenty of matching throttle movement also nice and easy, you are EATING your clutch. Many people think that if the car moves away from a stop so nice and easy that you could hold a full glass of wine, this is a good thing. This is the WORST thing. If the car jerks slightly because you moved the car away from a start nice and quick, this is as close to zero wear as it gets. The majority of clutch wear occurs when moving the car from a stop, so practice this most.
Changing gears should be instant, or as close to instant as you can get. You should practice matching rpms to road speed to the point where taking your foot off the pedal really quickly should cause no discernable change in the cars momentum. If your passenger can not tell when your foot comes off the pedal, you have maximized clutch life.
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The simple way I teach my customers to get max life from their clutches is to just remember one thing - the clutch only wears while the pedal is moving. The faster you get the clutch pedal off the floor and to 'rest' position, the less life you have used up. If you slide the pedal nice and easy, with plenty of matching throttle movement also nice and easy, you are EATING your clutch. Many people think that if the car moves away from a stop so nice and easy that you could hold a full glass of wine, this is a good thing. This is the WORST thing. If the car jerks slightly because you moved the car away from a start nice and quick, this is as close to zero wear as it gets. The majority of clutch wear occurs when moving the car from a stop, so practice this most.
Changing gears should be instant, or as close to instant as you can get. You should practice matching rpms to road speed to the point where taking your foot off the pedal really quickly should cause no discernable change in the cars momentum. If your passenger can not tell when your foot comes off the pedal, you have maximized clutch life.
a jerking start isn't the best thing for your car... it may do wonders in preserving the clutch plate surface but you are putting strain on other parts of the engine/transmission.
a smooth but quick clutch usage is the best. the clutch plate is designed to take some abuse and it still less costly then replacing an engine.
a smooth but quick clutch usage is the best. the clutch plate is designed to take some abuse and it still less costly then replacing an engine.
Originally posted by phirenze
Also, why do my gears grind terribly when I put my car into reverse every morning?
Also, why do my gears grind terribly when I put my car into reverse every morning?
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