oil consumption problems
Suzuka Master
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From: Cincinnati, OH
Originally Posted by batboyvaj
hey...i had a thought....
how many of you burning oil are using a synthetic like mobil 1. and how many are using the old dino stuff.
how many of you burning oil are using a synthetic like mobil 1. and how many are using the old dino stuff.
Yowsa!
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From: Federal Way, WA
Originally Posted by batboyvaj
hey...i had a thought....
how many of you burning oil are using a synthetic like mobil 1. and how many are using the old dino stuff.
how many of you burning oil are using a synthetic like mobil 1. and how many are using the old dino stuff.
I've been revving it pretty good since Hondata
Someone stole "My Garage"
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From: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally Posted by curls
All I know is that today I brought it in, they didnt open anything up, but ordered a new set of rings and a valve kit (seals and guides). They ordered a master gasket set but it was backordered, so I might get the car back until it comes in (they will know more tomorrow (Tuesday)).
Either way, they're doing both rings and valve seals/guides, but are definately looking for the ACTUAL cause of the problem. I will definately report back.
Either way, they're doing both rings and valve seals/guides, but are definately looking for the ACTUAL cause of the problem. I will definately report back.
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From: Atlanta, GA
I've noticed lately that my 04 TSX with 44k miles on it is starting to drink about 1.5 quarts of oil in between oil changes. I'm going to bring it up at my next oil change next week and see what they have to say about it.
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From: Carrollton,Texas
Fiber Reinforced Liner (FRL)
---------- Does anyone know if the TSX uses this type liner as to my understanding it was used in the 96 gen Prelude and the NSX?
Cutting edge design which used a Carbon fiber liner with aluminum oxide. The fiber was like swiss cheese coated with aluminum oxide. Carbon fiber is born/processed at around 2600 C - 3000 C while the oxide is stable at temps of around 3000-3600 C. It's basicly that grey film that develops on aluminum.
These combined make for a very tough/rigid liner. When you force the aluminum through the liner (swiss cheese)while forging the block you end up with a block that is rigid from the inside out with good heat transfer and keep the weight down.
Cast Iron blocks have been the norm in trucks forever because the strength and rigidity it brings. If I understand this correctly they pioneered this in the F1 arena along with the Double Wishbone and filtered it to production.
Old V-8 engines of 25-30 years ago would have a ridge in the top of the bore after about 70K miles that wouldn't allow removal of the piston without removing the ridge first. The japanese added I was told about 5% nickel to be able to get 200K+ miles from a cast iron block.
First post and I'm already rambling, please excuse but I've read of similar complaints of the Prelude using this FRL. Breakin sounds more crucial to them.
I'm currently driving a 92 Prelude with 215K+ miles, my daily beater.(64miles a day, 70-80mph 90%C/10%H 25mpg av.) I run Amsoil 10W30(synthetic) in the engine and the transmission(auto) and change them both at around 12-13K miles. I'm looking at the 06 Civic EX auto or a used TSX to replace it. Man I like the TSX a bunch but I like the economy of the Civic.
-------That brings me to my other question of what kind of fuel economy you get C/H %/%?
BTW I don't add a whole quart between intervals.
Regards
Bullzeye
Cutting edge design which used a Carbon fiber liner with aluminum oxide. The fiber was like swiss cheese coated with aluminum oxide. Carbon fiber is born/processed at around 2600 C - 3000 C while the oxide is stable at temps of around 3000-3600 C. It's basicly that grey film that develops on aluminum.
These combined make for a very tough/rigid liner. When you force the aluminum through the liner (swiss cheese)while forging the block you end up with a block that is rigid from the inside out with good heat transfer and keep the weight down.
Cast Iron blocks have been the norm in trucks forever because the strength and rigidity it brings. If I understand this correctly they pioneered this in the F1 arena along with the Double Wishbone and filtered it to production.
Old V-8 engines of 25-30 years ago would have a ridge in the top of the bore after about 70K miles that wouldn't allow removal of the piston without removing the ridge first. The japanese added I was told about 5% nickel to be able to get 200K+ miles from a cast iron block.
First post and I'm already rambling, please excuse but I've read of similar complaints of the Prelude using this FRL. Breakin sounds more crucial to them.
I'm currently driving a 92 Prelude with 215K+ miles, my daily beater.(64miles a day, 70-80mph 90%C/10%H 25mpg av.) I run Amsoil 10W30(synthetic) in the engine and the transmission(auto) and change them both at around 12-13K miles. I'm looking at the 06 Civic EX auto or a used TSX to replace it. Man I like the TSX a bunch but I like the economy of the Civic.
-------That brings me to my other question of what kind of fuel economy you get C/H %/%?
BTW I don't add a whole quart between intervals.
Regards
Bullzeye
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From: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally Posted by Bullzeye
---------- Does anyone know if the TSX uses this type liner as to my understanding it was used in the 96 gen Prelude and the NSX?
Cutting edge design which used a Carbon fiber liner with aluminum oxide. The fiber was like swiss cheese coated with aluminum oxide. Carbon fiber is born/processed at around 2600 C - 3000 C while the oxide is stable at temps of around 3000-3600 C. It's basicly that grey film that develops on aluminum.
These combined make for a very tough/rigid liner. When you force the aluminum through the liner (swiss cheese)while forging the block you end up with a block that is rigid from the inside out with good heat transfer and keep the weight down.
Cast Iron blocks have been the norm in trucks forever because the strength and rigidity it brings. If I understand this correctly they pioneered this in the F1 arena along with the Double Wishbone and filtered it to production.
Old V-8 engines of 25-30 years ago would have a ridge in the top of the bore after about 70K miles that wouldn't allow removal of the piston without removing the ridge first. The japanese added I was told about 5% nickel to be able to get 200K+ miles from a cast iron block.
First post and I'm already rambling, please excuse but I've read of similar complaints of the Prelude using this FRL. Breakin sounds more crucial to them.
I'm currently driving a 92 Prelude with 215K+ miles, my daily beater.(64miles a day, 70-80mph 90%C/10%H 25mpg av.) I run Amsoil 10W30(synthetic) in the engine and the transmission(auto) and change them both at around 12-13K miles. I'm looking at the 06 Civic EX auto or a used TSX to replace it. Man I like the TSX a bunch but I like the economy of the Civic.
-------That brings me to my other question of what kind of fuel economy you get C/H %/%?
BTW I don't add a whole quart between intervals.
Regards
Bullzeye
Cutting edge design which used a Carbon fiber liner with aluminum oxide. The fiber was like swiss cheese coated with aluminum oxide. Carbon fiber is born/processed at around 2600 C - 3000 C while the oxide is stable at temps of around 3000-3600 C. It's basicly that grey film that develops on aluminum.
These combined make for a very tough/rigid liner. When you force the aluminum through the liner (swiss cheese)while forging the block you end up with a block that is rigid from the inside out with good heat transfer and keep the weight down.
Cast Iron blocks have been the norm in trucks forever because the strength and rigidity it brings. If I understand this correctly they pioneered this in the F1 arena along with the Double Wishbone and filtered it to production.
Old V-8 engines of 25-30 years ago would have a ridge in the top of the bore after about 70K miles that wouldn't allow removal of the piston without removing the ridge first. The japanese added I was told about 5% nickel to be able to get 200K+ miles from a cast iron block.
First post and I'm already rambling, please excuse but I've read of similar complaints of the Prelude using this FRL. Breakin sounds more crucial to them.
I'm currently driving a 92 Prelude with 215K+ miles, my daily beater.(64miles a day, 70-80mph 90%C/10%H 25mpg av.) I run Amsoil 10W30(synthetic) in the engine and the transmission(auto) and change them both at around 12-13K miles. I'm looking at the 06 Civic EX auto or a used TSX to replace it. Man I like the TSX a bunch but I like the economy of the Civic.
-------That brings me to my other question of what kind of fuel economy you get C/H %/%?
BTW I don't add a whole quart between intervals.
Regards
Bullzeye
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From: Sydney
Originally Posted by Bullzeye
---------- Does anyone know if the TSX uses this type liner as to my understanding it was used in the 96 gen Prelude and the NSX?
Cutting edge design which used a Carbon fiber liner with aluminum oxide. The fiber was like swiss cheese coated with aluminum oxide. Carbon fiber is born/processed at around 2600 C - 3000 C while the oxide is stable at temps of around 3000-3600 C. It's basicly that grey film that develops on aluminum.
Cutting edge design which used a Carbon fiber liner with aluminum oxide. The fiber was like swiss cheese coated with aluminum oxide. Carbon fiber is born/processed at around 2600 C - 3000 C while the oxide is stable at temps of around 3000-3600 C. It's basicly that grey film that develops on aluminum.
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From: Windsor-Quebec corridor
Originally Posted by Bullzeye
Sorry Curls
I'm runnin 90% Highway miles and 10% city to get an average of 25 mpg. Sorry for the confusion
I'm runnin 90% Highway miles and 10% city to get an average of 25 mpg. Sorry for the confusion
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From: Ottawa, Ontario
OK, got a call from Camco Acura. Car is going in Wednesday morning and should be back Friday afternoon.
Turns out they're not authorized by Acura Canada to do the valve seals/guides unless they are out of spec, so they should be checking that while they're in there.
They ordered and have ready:
- piston ring set
- timing chain
- timing chain tensioner
- master gasket kit
- head bolts
Woooooo!!!!
Turns out they're not authorized by Acura Canada to do the valve seals/guides unless they are out of spec, so they should be checking that while they're in there.
They ordered and have ready:
- piston ring set
- timing chain
- timing chain tensioner
- master gasket kit
- head bolts
Woooooo!!!!
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