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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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major HUGE problem

Ok long story short, my TSX has been rewired like 3 times and still isn't functioning properly. I went and hit the cut off switch for my sub b/c my trunk was completely filled with stuff. Parked my car and went and showered, etc.etc. Came back out to my car turned it on and low and behold, my screen above the navi (time, cd track and number and interior temp) is completely black. Proceed to call my father crying, who has no idea what happened but "thinks my car is safe to drive". Call the place where I am getting my whole system redone and they have no idea. Drive the car home and realize that (in the dark) my entire dash isn't lit up (all the buttons along the navi screen). Also, my dome light isn't on BUT the one that runs alongside the little "shit" drawer is. WHAT IS GOING ON!?!?!?!?!?!
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Try this: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13781
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Old May 1, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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Thanks-I don't know if its just the audio problem listed in the recall because its other lights too, but my car goes in to get a new system in about 2 weeks so hopefully they can figure out the problem-do you guys think that the car is ok to drive though? I have already blown a fuse from my system and broke down...it really can't happen again
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Old May 1, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Did you check your fuses to see if any were blown?
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Old May 1, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Thumbs down

just checked-my VIN doesn't fall into the limits
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Old May 1, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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yeah i checked it didn'tlook like any were blown but it was kinda dark out-i am afraid to touch anything. Could it be possible that because my car is wired so badly, it is affecting the lighting? Its been wired like this for about 6 months with the only problem (well at first) being that ic ouldn't put a back window down
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Old May 1, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ZtotallynakedZ
...Proceed to call my father crying....
Takes a big man to admit that...I guess...

Hope you get your car fixed. If I were you, I'd rewire everything back to stock and take it to a professional to get your stereo installed...
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Old May 2, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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im a girl and a daddy's girl at that-i think that i can call him crying whenever i want. the car can't go in until the 19th but is it safe to drive
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Old May 2, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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I don't think there's any problem with driving it. Your gauges still work right?
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Old May 2, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ZtotallynakedZ
Ok long story short, my TSX has been rewired like 3 times and still isn't functioning properly. I went and hit the cut off switch for my sub b/c my trunk was completely filled with stuff. Parked my car and went and showered, etc.etc. Came back out to my car turned it on and low and behold, my screen above the navi (time, cd track and number and interior temp) is completely black. Proceed to call my father crying, who has no idea what happened but "thinks my car is safe to drive". Call the place where I am getting my whole system redone and they have no idea. Drive the car home and realize that (in the dark) my entire dash isn't lit up (all the buttons along the navi screen). Also, my dome light isn't on BUT the one that runs alongside the little "shit" drawer is. WHAT IS GOING ON!?!?!?!?!?!
Wait, before we go any further...

Do you have ANY aftermarket equipment wired into your OEM head unit? This is important. If you do, you need to do 1 of 2 things:

1. Go back to the installer and have them sort it out (if you want to keep the existing upgraded equipment).

2. Remove and restore your audio system to its factory settings and then have the aftermarket installer fix your problem that they caused.

If you have installed any aftermarket audio equipment and fried your OEM head/wiring/etc, the factory warranty no longer covers the part failure caused by an aftermarket part installation.

It is not AHMC's problem that aftermarket equipment made facotry parts fail. They are in no way responsible to fix them in that case. You do not qualify for warranty-covered repairs in this particular incident.
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Originally Posted by ZtotallynakedZ
im a girl and a daddy's girl at that-i think that i can call him crying whenever i want. the car can't go in until the 19th but is it safe to drive
Ok, your excused
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Wait, before we go any further...

Do you have ANY aftermarket equipment wired into your OEM head unit? This is important. If you do, you need to do 1 of 2 things:

1. Go back to the installer and have them sort it out (if you want to keep the existing upgraded equipment).

2. Remove and restore your audio system to its factory settings and then have the aftermarket installer fix your problem that they caused.

If you have installed any aftermarket audio equipment and fried your OEM head/wiring/etc, the factory warranty no longer covers the part failure caused by an aftermarket part installation.

It is not AHMC's problem that aftermarket equipment made facotry parts fail. They are in no way responsible to fix them in that case. You do not qualify for warranty-covered repairs in this particular incident.
good post
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Old May 2, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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good post
I have a hunch someone screwed up on an install. She needs to take it to them. Unless they're some ghetto-side-of-the-road shop, they should accept fault and fix everything properly to stand behind their work. Otherwise, if this were me, I'd be taking the BBB to that ass (of course, this is after giving them a chance to set the wrong things right).
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Old May 2, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
I have a hunch someone screwed up on an install. She needs to take it to them. Unless they're some ghetto-side-of-the-road shop, they should accept fault and fix everything properly to stand behind their work. Otherwise, if this were me, I'd be taking the BBB to that ass (of course, this is after giving them a chance to set the wrong things right).
She didnt mention she had a third party install her system. If she did, then your absolutly right...
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Ok, your excused


I thought the same thing when i read the post.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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To clarify, I have had 3 different people install/rewire my system. 1) Blew a fuse-broke down 10 DAYS AFTER I HAD THE CAR 2) Ran the wiring under my clutch and car wouldn't start 3) Back window wouldn't go down. All 3 installs were done a "reputable" shops-places my friends have gone before and had no problems except for me. I know that the install is messed up, it was just a matter of finding a place that could do it. The excuse I heard when i blew the fuse was that "they weren't familiar with the Acura's Navi system set up". THEY WHY DID THEY WORK ON MY CAR!?! I got so frustrated towards the end that i just took the car with a back window not functioning and did not want to go back to any of the places. I found a new place, which comes highly recommended. I am installing an entirely new system and will be done by May 21ish. Thanks fot making me feel like im not going to break down on the side of the road (again).
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Old May 3, 2005 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ZtotallynakedZ
To clarify, I have had 3 different people install/rewire my system. 1) Blew a fuse-broke down 10 DAYS AFTER I HAD THE CAR 2) Ran the wiring under my clutch and car wouldn't start 3) Back window wouldn't go down. All 3 installs were done a "reputable" shops-places my friends have gone before and had no problems except for me. I know that the install is messed up, it was just a matter of finding a place that could do it. The excuse I heard when i blew the fuse was that "they weren't familiar with the Acura's Navi system set up". THEY WHY DID THEY WORK ON MY CAR!?! I got so frustrated towards the end that i just took the car with a back window not functioning and did not want to go back to any of the places. I found a new place, which comes highly recommended. I am installing an entirely new system and will be done by May 21ish. Thanks fot making me feel like im not going to break down on the side of the road (again).
I'm just curious. Humor me...

Why did you take your car somewhere other than your dealer for concerns that were going to be covered by warranty in the first place?

My first question earlier (that you never answered) was:

Did you have aftermarket audio equipment installed?

This would help me out a lot if you'd just answer that too...
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Old May 3, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Yes i had a SYSTEM (aftermarket stero) installed from my RSX to my new TSX-obv. can't take it to the dealer to get that fixed although they did look at it the times it was towed in. I absolutly refuse to take it to the same 3 shops I had it done at before-they have no idea what they are doing and aren't touching my car-i don't care if they accept fault or whatever-they screwed up majorly-would you take your car back to a shop that wrecked it?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Yes i had a SYSTEM (aftermarket stero) installed from my RSX to my new TSX-obv. can't take it to the dealer to get that fixed although they did look at it the times it was towed in. I absolutly refuse to take it to the same 3 shops I had it done at before-they have no idea what they are doing and aren't touching my car-i don't care if they accept fault or whatever-they screwed up majorly-would you take your car back to a shop that wrecked it?
In that case, you may be better off having the Acura dealer restore your car audio, electric wiring back to factory setup - even though you will likely have to pay as there have been aftermarket parts and work that likely have caused (or just worsened) initial problems.

OR since you mentioned you already lined up another (4th??!) "highly recommended" shop to do an entirely new system later this month... can you trust them to rectify all the electrical problems you are having and install the new system? That's your call...

Good luck!
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Old May 3, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
In that case, you may be better off having the Acura dealer restore your car audio, electric wiring back to factory setup - even though you will likely have to pay as there have been aftermarket parts and work that likely have caused (or just worsened) initial problems.

OR since you mentioned you already lined up another (4th??!) "highly recommended" shop to do an entirely new system later this month... can you trust them to rectify all the electrical problems you are having and install the new system? That's your call...

Good luck!


You're basically learning a valuable, yet painful, lesson here. If you can't trust these other "highly recommended" shops, what makes you think that you can trust another? I'm just going off of what you've said, but this makes me think that you have lost confidence in other aftermarket shops additionally. Your best bet, unfortunately in a monetary position, is to take it to the dealer and have your car restored to factory specs. You're going to have to pay them to do this, as I previously mentioned that the factory warranty does not back other companies' work, and start from scratch.

Unfortunately, you have to learn from this that there is fault from someone's work that you aren't making them take accountability for. You should seek reimbursement or refund from the company that failed at the installation that caused the mechanical/wiring failures or seek them to reimburse you for the expense of restoration. Legally, they are not exactly required to do this, as you permitted them to perform this work and then did not allow them to rectify it, but it would be a gesture of good business practice.

Long story short...
It doesn't seem like you really intend take my advice seriously if you don't take it back to the dealer and have it restored immediately. Not to sound harsh, but I'm not the only one that has recommended this action. I am also quite the reputable source of information and support to people that are having technical difficulties with their cars. You may not know this now, but maybe you'll figure out that I am quite the contributor to the TSX community. I'm trying to help you out.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Luckily for me, all the installs didn't cost me more than tipping the guys. Its just scary to think that there are "reputable" shops that can't do an simple install on a car with navi. It wasn't like these shops were untested, many of my friends had systems installed and everything works fine then and today. Has anyone else had problems with installing a system with navi? I know a friend of a friend did... I did take everyone's advice seriously and called my Acura dealer today and they said to bring it in anytime and they would take a look at it and see why my lights weren't weren't functioning, etc. thanks for everyone's help!
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Old May 3, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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p.s-i did talk to the 4th installation place and discussed the problems i have been having-they were going to completely take all the wiring out and start completely over
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Have you ever heard of a shop called StreetEffectz?
If they are close to you, go there!
Those guys are always in the a/v section here at Acurazine, and they know a lot about Acuras.

What aftermarket stereo parts do you have in your car?

In seems strange that only 1 window would not be working. If this is the case. Sounds like they took off your door panel to replace the 6 1/2 in the rear door, but did not plug in the wiring harness on the door for the window control.
Here's a question. Does the window go down if you try to control it using the drivers controls? Is it the only the window control on the door that doesn't work?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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[QUOTE=ZtotallynakedZ]Luckily for me, all the installs didn't cost me more than tipping the guys. [QUOTE]

Sorry to say sometimes you get what you pay for in life.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ZtotallynakedZ
p.s-i did talk to the 4th installation place and discussed the problems i have been having-they were going to completely take all the wiring out and start completely over
So are you going with your dealer to clean things up or let the 4th shop to do that?

And none of the three previous shops actually charged for installation?!? How much did they charge for parts and the system?

Normally shops charge quite a bit for just the labour, I think the going rate in my area is like $60 (CAD) an hour. If a shop doesn't charge for labour, I'd actually be somewhat worried about their installers skills and knowledge.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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I have friends-i dont get charged for labor on anything- just the products....the weird thing about the window is that both the driver's controls and the acutal passenger's controls don't work but it "clicks" when you push the button.
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Sounds like there is still something unplugged inside of the door panel of your rear door.

What exactly do you have installed?
Sounds like they have swapped out some of the speakers, but what else did they add/change?

Do you know if they installed an amp for your highs or an amp for your bass?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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I don't even have a massive set up-just one 12" Rockford sub and an Alpine amp for bass. None of the speakers in my car are swapped or anything. The only other thing i have is sat radio, which now isn't working either. I want to swap speakers out but am too afraid to at this point, i just want a functioning sub!
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Wow, do you know if your door panel has ever been taken off?

For the bass amp, they should have just tapped the sound from the rear 6x9's.
Adding a bass amp should NOT have caused your windows to not work?
Have you checked all of your fuses?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ZtotallynakedZ
I don't even have a massive set up-just one 12" Rockford sub and an Alpine amp for bass. None of the speakers in my car are swapped or anything. The only other thing i have is sat radio, which now isn't working either. I want to swap speakers out but am too afraid to at this point, i just want a functioning sub!
If that's the case, just rip that stuff out and go back to stock. It's not worth the hassle you've gone through for just those little upgrades.

Once again...

Quit screwing around with half-ass shops that aren't charging you for labor. Even if you have a person on the inside, there is something that raises a red flag when they aren't getting properly compensated for their work. Have you not learned your lesson yet?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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again i have friends that are generous enough to set things up for me, not just audio work, but tints and performance work. So you're telling me not to bother with anything just because i don't get charged labor just parts?
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again i have friends that are generous enough to set things up for me, not just audio work, but tints and performance work. So you're telling me not to bother with anything just because i don't get charged labor just parts?
not because of that!

We are telling you not to bother because it's obvious the shops you used so far haven't done any of the jobs on your car properly, so it'd be wise to stay away from them.

You may have "friends" working there or they know someone working there but doesn't mean the installers actually doing the job would give a shit about you or your car. So if the installers are shitty to begin with, doesn't matter who your inside friends are.

Your best bet to fix your problems now and to be absolutely sure everything stock works as they should is to let the Acura dealer restore your car to factory spec (remember to pay them). After that, you could certainly go through your friends and get JUST the parts (I'd make sure they are unopen, genuine parts though) but find a good installer and pay for the install
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Old May 4, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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sounds like to me your Headunit is already screwed up and rewiring it wont do shit. AM i missing something here?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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not because of that!

We are telling you not to bother because it's obvious the shops you used so far haven't done any of the jobs on your car properly, so it'd be wise to stay away from them.
BINGO!

Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
You may have "friends" working there or they know someone working there but doesn't mean the installers actually doing the job would give a shit about you or your car. So if the installers are shitty to begin with, doesn't matter who your inside friends are.

Your best bet to fix your problems now and to be absolutely sure everything stock works as they should is to let the Acura dealer restore your car to factory spec (remember to pay them). After that, you could certainly go through your friends and get JUST the parts (I'd make sure they are unopen, genuine parts though) but find a good installer and pay for the install
We've said this to her 4 times now. Maybe she's just going to keep being stubborn enough to convince herself that she's not going to listen to a word we say and keep wasting our time.

Either way. I've wasted enough of my time with this one. My time and knowledge are way too valuable to do play this game and beat this dead horse continually. Some people will never learn. I like to contribute, and will continue to. Just not like this. She has no apreciation for any of our thoughts at this point. If she did, she would have taken any path that we've recommended.

She's hopeless.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Can anyone read here? my car is going to the Acura dealer thursday or friday to be looked at and fixed-READ THE POSTS! I DID TAKE EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAID INTO CONSIDERATION AND CALLED MY ACURA DEALER TO GET THE CAR IN ASAP. PEOPLE NEED TO READ THE POSTS BEFORE THEY MAKE STUPID USELESS COMMENTS
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Old May 4, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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i didn't read anywhere that you had decided to bring you car back to the Acura dealer, sorry.
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i didn't read anywhere that you had decided to bring you car back to the Acura dealer, sorry.
She did say that... but at the same time, she also mentioned a 4th shop to install the next complete system, so it got confusing

ZtotallynakedZ, good to hear you are taking your car to the dealer asap... I hope you have at least postponed the appointment with shop #4 until existing problems are all resolved
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Old May 4, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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wow, here let me add to the flame.

do you have this much trouble driving?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtremespeed2102
wow, here let me add to the flame.

do you have this much trouble driving?
you should know better Xtreme...
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Old May 4, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtremespeed2102
wow, here let me add to the flame.

do you have this much trouble driving?
Come on, give her a break. She's handling the situation quite well considering the kind of problems she has to deal with. No need to kick when someone is down...
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