So when you get a chance, hop in the back seat of your beautiful TSX, lean back and look up at where the roof liner meets the rear windshield. Guess what? It may not tuck in nice and pretty like it should. It may look like someone took a razor blade to it and cut it along where it is suppose to tuck into the roof just like mine!

Including mine, so far I’ve seen this on four ’05 NBP TSXs, one AT and three MT. Considering how much we have paid for our cars, the fact that they bear the name Honda or Acura, and not FREAKIN’ DODGE NEON, I think that this is crap.

Here are my pics:

 

Well don't it suck!

What's the matter with this place? Is it getting overrun by a bunch of nit-picky freaks? Who in the world looks there just to find an imperfection?

 

Well, guess what, that's where I looked and that's what I saw. I think that it's crap because its a matter of poor fit and finish.

If you don't have a problem with it, that's fine. However, I do.

 

fiesty fiesty. im sure the TL has fit n finish to your liking. acutally why dont u try an RL im sure that should be the top. then if not im sure theres a nice little bike that has VERY few options and is GREAT on gas!

 

I worked for a company that makes the fabric for headliners. The foam is laminated onto the fabric and then that is laminated onto the headliner piece (cardboard or plastic). Essentially yes a razor or more specifically a auto knife cuts unnessessary fabric/foam off of the base.

Appears that the blade was dull.

and yes Honda will have requirements on how that should look, but things are hidden in and passed along even with ISO/TS-16939 in place.

 

Can't imagine what would happen if this car had REAL problems

 

Call Client Service and bitch it up !

 

It doesn't bother me...as far as I am concerned, my TSX is light years ahead of many cars I've had in terms of fit/finish/refinement. Your TSX is actually a Honda Accord...not designed for the luxury market from the ground up IMHO. If it was sold as an Accord today, would you have the same reaction?

 

Don't get me wrong joerockt, I love the car. The engine is fantastic, even stock, it handles great, it looks great.

I wish this was my only complaint, but unfortunately it is not. I too have the rattling glove box problem for which I’m going to take it to dealership.

So if it appears that I’m over reacting to this issue, it is due to the cumulative effect of finding this defect in addition to the rattling glove box.

Also, I don’t really want to get into it, but this is actually my 2nd ’05. The first one had squeaky rear suspension bushings and a rattle in the dash.

At first they claimed they did not hear any squeaks from the rear. After my third visit to the dealership and a test drive with the service manager in the back, he heard what I heard and after looking around in the back, he blamed the squeak on where the roof liner met the windshield and pointed it out to me. Once they told me that they were going to replace the whole roof liner for me (which would not have resolved the squeaky suspension issue) combined with the fact that they could not fix my rattling dash issue after the third visit and having my car for combined total of almost 2 months, I met with the owner of the dealership and we came to an agreement. I traded in my ’05 with 2200 miles and a $1000 later I had a new NBP 6MT TSX.

I checked it out and it too had the poorly cut roof liner. I took it for a drive and there was no suspension squeaks or dash rattles at the time. Unfortunately, it developed a glove box rattle shortly after ownership.

If I appeared very angry in my first post, I apologize. It was an over reaction on my part. However, I’m glad that this forum has provided me with a means of letting out some of my frustrations.

Am I going to trade in my TSX over this? No
Am I going to swear to never buy another Acura over this? No

However, I am curious to see how many other TSXs have the same roof liner issue as mine. Maybe, we can make Acura/Honda aware of it at some point and help them improve the quality of their product.

 

I'll check mine out this morning just for kicks.

 

Wow, don't take this the wrong way, but you must be a dealership nightmare .....

The only reason that the dealership would do a "good faith" swap for $1k over a squeak is that you must be a PITA.............I mean $1K barely covers the paperwork.

I looked at my headliner and while it's not as bad as yours, it's far from a clean cut. But, you can't see it from the outside, and you can't see it from the inside unless you go looking for it, so it doesn't bother me.

 

and i thought that i had obsessive compulsive disorder, thanks for making me feel normal

 

Mines got it too!

bastards

I haven't had a chance to resize the fewpix from sunday
but i'll PM you the gallery when i get home tonight
also i put the wing on when i got home and it took about 30 seconds

 

You're welcome.

 

That's cool Type X. I'm glad that the spoiler worked out for you.
I had fun meeting both you and amadeus303.

 

Maybe I am a PITA.

 

I've owned my TSX for almost 2 years now and have been very happy with it. I am NOT going to look at my headliner to see if it looks like crap.

jlukja, who thinks that ignorance is bliss when it comes to the headliner finish.

 

I have to agree. Actually, I know that even if I knew it was imperfect, I could care less anyway. I appreciate the TSX for what it is, and it is NOT about the headliner's finish where you don't see it.

I must admit I haven't looked under the seats to check out if the upholstery was well sewn either.

 

Who shoves there head up there ass to see if it fits?

Just enjoy the car

 

SUE THEIR ASSES!!!




Cost cutting at its finest. They probably figure that 99.999% of their owners will never notice, even fewer will care, so it's not worth the $10/car to do something about it.

 

This should take care of it...

http://www.automobiletrim.com/edge-trim-plastic.html

 

you shouldnt worry about stupid imperfections like that. Now you should be worried if you have an a/t modded with every part possible to get more power out of the car, and your car is still slow as hell. Along with that, you dont have any AC because your god damn compressor just blew up.

 

They figured right

 

damn 2 lemons in a row that's not fair

 

Use a lighter to "melt" the loose fibers together. This should smooth it out real nice.

 

That's it! I'm tradin it in!

 

:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire burn burn burn

 

who cares, you can't really see it unless you look really carefully, gosh some people, would you think if you bought a mercedes or a ferrari and you see bad stiching in that same area you pointed out. would you be like oh gosh this car is made cheap.

 

Mine looks like yours.

Having the headliner peel off and hang down into the cabin is not the coolest of things to have happen. Been there done that. A four dollar molding on the back window to secure this woulda been a good idea.

Good to know...thanks for bringing it up.

 

Just went to see how bad this "problem" is and I gotta tell ya that's extreme nitpicking folks (no offence intended).

You really have to look very closely and search for it to actually notice the imperfection.

If all complaints are like this one, then bring them on, man! It only proves that the car is very well made.

 

where are all these nitpicking maniacs coming from...

 

They had to cut corners somewhere.

 

Pun intended?

 

 

checked mine - looks exactly the same. Doesn't bother me since I don't stick my head back there, but I have to say one thing. It's unfair to call an owner who finds this unacceptable a nitpicking maniac. Even something as minor as that is indicative that there may be other corners cut elsewhere in the car. Wait a minute.....oh yeah... this is the owners' forum with hundreds of complaints about creaks, buzzing, rattles etc isn't it?

 

Cut corners? Of course. That's a freakin' 27K car. Get a 70K car and perhaps you won't see any corner cut.

Yeah, this section of the forum is about problems and complaints. Unfortunately, there's no section for posts along the line "my car doesn't have rattles". I'm not saying that rattle is not an issue with this car, but perhaps it is perceived as a more generalized problem that it really is. (Is there a poll about rattles?)

 

what is the problem?
will it fall apart after 3 years? I don't really get the problem

 

Poor fit and finish is a problem and it is indicative of the overall quality of the car. It makes you wonder where else did they cut corners.

If you let a car company get away with such things, then they will begin to cut more corners. You need to look beyond this specific problem and think about what this represents.

 

Cost cutting is the nature of the automotive industry. Even the ultra-lux brands do it.

If you don't want a $40,000 TSX then you're going to have to put up with things like this.

 

I agree with you in that cost cutting is the nature of the business. But there is a major difference between a $30,000.00 Acura and $30,000.00 Ford, or Dodge when it comes to fit and finish. We must be vigilant, and bring such things to Acura’s attention. Otherwise, our $26 to $30K Acura might end up with the same cheap plastic with poor fit and finish interior as the equally priced GM, Ford, or Dodge.