Phase 2, Part 1 (just a few pics)
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Phase 2, Part 1 (just a few pics)
Just a few interim pics until everything is in...
Thanks to Josh and his team at Excelerate. They did an amazing job with everything
And a few pics of the gauge setup:
Pic of the car:
And a quick (crummy) video. Watch the green light in the middle...when it lights up, that tells me water/meth is being injected. It's set up to spray 10% at 1psi and 100% at 3psi.
Overall impressions of running the water/meth is definitely positive. The car runs very smoothly and there is a definitely a power boost. It basically feels like it's running in the winter, except it's 90F. Great pull from anywhere in the power band.
...and one more quick acceleration vid:
Next up...high boost pulley and 225ml nozzle for water/methanol (currently running 175ml). Going to have it monitored for knocking and other things when it goes on. Hoping everything will work .
Thanks to Josh and his team at Excelerate. They did an amazing job with everything
And a few pics of the gauge setup:
Pic of the car:
And a quick (crummy) video. Watch the green light in the middle...when it lights up, that tells me water/meth is being injected. It's set up to spray 10% at 1psi and 100% at 3psi.
Overall impressions of running the water/meth is definitely positive. The car runs very smoothly and there is a definitely a power boost. It basically feels like it's running in the winter, except it's 90F. Great pull from anywhere in the power band.
...and one more quick acceleration vid:
Next up...high boost pulley and 225ml nozzle for water/methanol (currently running 175ml). Going to have it monitored for knocking and other things when it goes on. Hoping everything will work .
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Originally Posted by losothefatso
I wonder if you have the fastest TSX .
I think ben down in the south has the fastest tsx unless that dude with the turbo'd tsx got all this things working properly....
still, this is a nice setup, let's see if i have some money to throw at this product...
#14
Originally Posted by jmathew34
I think he has the 2nd fastest street legal tsx..
I think ben down in the south has the fastest tsx unless that dude with the turbo'd tsx got all this things working properly....
still, this is a nice setup, let's see if i have some money to throw at this product...
I think ben down in the south has the fastest tsx unless that dude with the turbo'd tsx got all this things working properly....
still, this is a nice setup, let's see if i have some money to throw at this product...
#16
Originally Posted by UNEVAKNO
His TSX is a beautiful car but do we have any times on these cars ? All of those mods sound good but are they worth the cost? What does a supercharged TSX w/o spray run 0-60 and 1/4 mile?
I think we might have a few guys that did 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs might have to run a search on that though...
as far as cost and modding, that is always a subject matter that should be left up to the person buying the performance product...because we all know that $3,000+ maybe worth it to some people and not to others...
#17
If you can get some numbers I would like to know. I have achieved some good numbers in the 14's with my TSX on all motor (normal aspirated/ stock motor internals/ with bolt ons) and I expect it to be faster when I get it back this week.
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Thanks for all the comments, guys .
From what I understand, Ben was having issues and his car wasn't running smoothly (plus, he's moved onto a project car that he can actually tune ), so he ended up going back to the stock S/C setup since the TSX is his daily driver. However, he was one of my main motivations to mod my S/C, not to mention he was also the one who provided me with the high boost pulley, so I definitely thank him for all he's done.
Ha, yeah I had it posted up in the BM for a while. Once it was paid off, I started thinking about what else I could move on to. My post was mostly meant to test the waters. However there wasn't much interest, and since I still love my car, it'll be around for a little while longer. Let the modding continue...
I don't have any drag slips to confirm what I'm running, but based on my experience running against other cars from a dig, I'd say my 0-60 is in the low-mid 6s, maybe lower with a better driver than me. But to be honest, that's not really what I'm about. I'm modding my car to be a fast daily driver, not a fast track star. If it drives well around town and on the highway, that's all I'm interested in.
That said, I also haven't gone to a drag strip because if I clutch dropped on my stock tranny to get a good launch, I feel like there's a possibility that I'd grenade my transmission. Once I upgrade the transmission (phase 4), then I'll most likely take it to the strip for the hell of it.
Originally Posted by jmathew34
I think he has the 2nd fastest street legal tsx..
I think ben down in the south has the fastest tsx unless that dude with the turbo'd tsx got all this things working properly....
still, this is a nice setup, let's see if i have some money to throw at this product...
I think ben down in the south has the fastest tsx unless that dude with the turbo'd tsx got all this things working properly....
still, this is a nice setup, let's see if i have some money to throw at this product...
Originally Posted by Ruserious
Weren't you selling the car? Or am i mistaken...
Originally Posted by minkl81
guess you gotta keep the tsx
Originally Posted by UNEVAKNO
His TSX is a beautiful car but do we have any times on these cars ? All of those mods sound good but are they worth the cost? What does a supercharged TSX w/o spray run 0-60 and 1/4 mile?
That said, I also haven't gone to a drag strip because if I clutch dropped on my stock tranny to get a good launch, I feel like there's a possibility that I'd grenade my transmission. Once I upgrade the transmission (phase 4), then I'll most likely take it to the strip for the hell of it.
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Originally Posted by JTso
very clean installation!
Speaking of, thanks to you for your words of advice as well .
I didn't end up going with the FJO or PLX units that we had previously discussed, but I'm fairly confident that the AEM gauges/wideband sensor should work well enough.
#21
Very nice man
Keep us posted on how she's running. Any idea what your A/F ratio is at while you're WOT?
Just wondering how the Methanol is effected your Air/Fuel Ratio.
Very nice gauges man! Can you datalog the readings from them?
Keep us posted on how she's running. Any idea what your A/F ratio is at while you're WOT?
Just wondering how the Methanol is effected your Air/Fuel Ratio.
Very nice gauges man! Can you datalog the readings from them?
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Whats does the pulley upgrade change the psi to. Also what are you going to us to fuel tune for the methanol. Spraying methanol alone will not negate much of a gain. It is only there to assit in Air Intake Charge when the sc/turbo is out of its efficeny range and causes the air charge to get to hot. Which will increase the risk of knock/ping, causing a pull of timing or boom. You also need some way to adjust timing as you will have an affect on fuel burn.
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Originally Posted by Tsx536
Very nice man
Keep us posted on how she's running. Any idea what your A/F ratio is at while you're WOT?
Just wondering how the Methanol is effected your Air/Fuel Ratio.
Very nice gauges man! Can you datalog the readings from them?
Keep us posted on how she's running. Any idea what your A/F ratio is at while you're WOT?
Just wondering how the Methanol is effected your Air/Fuel Ratio.
Very nice gauges man! Can you datalog the readings from them?
Per the sensor mounted in my header, my A/F ratio is about 10.2:1 at WOT. Based on my previous dyno (where the A/F ratio was measured at the exhaust), I'm running about 0.5-0.75 points richer than before with the 175ml nozzle. The engine feels much more solid now, like it's not even strained under full load. It also feels noticeably smoother than before.
The gauges are great. I really like the dual LED/digital displays, and they match the interior better than I expected. You can datalog readings from the controller as I believe it has a RS232 port for laptops, but I haven't checked into that yet.
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Originally Posted by Methodx
Whats does the pulley upgrade change the psi to. Also what are you going to us to fuel tune for the methanol. Spraying methanol alone will not negate much of a gain. It is only there to assit in Air Intake Charge when the sc/turbo is out of its efficeny range and causes the air charge to get to hot. Which will increase the risk of knock/ping, causing a pull of timing or boom. You also need some way to adjust timing as you will have an affect on fuel burn.
The high boost pulley I'm using should only add another 2psi or so (20whp). My intention wasn't to extract tons of boost from the blower, but rather to try and maintain a nominal A/F ratio once water/meth is added to the mix. The additional power beyond cooling the IAT via water/meth is just a bonus in my eyes.
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That car will run stronger without the methanol. What methanol are you using M1,M2, M3 or M5. Are you mixing 50/50 with water. I am only making this reply is because my last car was a Subaru STi. We were using methanol quite a bit and gains were only made with a tune. With a psi increase and just methanol we actually add very minimal gains. We were able to slightly increase torque but the horsepower fell off quite abit up top. Using methanol without a tune will not hurt the car but, it we be like pissing money away. There are several units that will allow fuel tuning. Apexi, Aem,Dtec and Greddy e manage. They all range around $400 and will require taping into the ecu. I believe the aem will allow timing control also. Its just a getting an ecu pinout and someone who is knowledgable of the unit you are utilizing.
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Originally Posted by Methodx
That car will run stronger without the methanol. What methanol are you using M1,M2, M3 or M5. Are you mixing 50/50 with water. I am only making this reply is because my last car was a Subaru STi. We were using methanol quite a bit and gains were only made with a tune. With a psi increase and just methanol we actually add very minimal gains. We were able to slightly increase torque but the horsepower fell off quite abit up top. Using methanol without a tune will not hurt the car but, it we be like pissing money away. There are several units that will allow fuel tuning. Apexi, Aem,Dtec and Greddy e manage. They all range around $400 and will require taping into the ecu. I believe the aem will allow timing control also. Its just a getting an ecu pinout and someone who is knowledgable of the unit you are utilizing.
As far as running stronger without methanol, I would have to disagree. I'm not injecting large amounts at a time, and my goal was to initially reduce IAT which helps with both power delivery and output. I'm not noticing a night and day difference, but I definitely feel the car runs better and smoother with the methanol than without.
Pulley should be going on later today, so I guess we'll see what happens. I'm not going to expect too much, if at all, but at this point any form of (safe) gains will be worth it .
#30
Well the pulley change should be quite noticeable. As far a the injection if you say if feels better I will take your word. I wish someone made away to make this car more tuner friendly. It makes me miss the scooby. Well good luck keep us posted I would like to know what happens.
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
Love your ride! Very well put together!
If you had kept your 335i a little while longer, I would have considered taking that off your hands .
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
hope you post up tonight abought this cause if you have success with this along with the light weight crank pulley I will be doing them right away.
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Quick update...
I went to get the high boost pulley installed Wed night, but found out that the belt I brought was too long. It turns out that the only belt that can fit with the high boost pulley is a 75.5" 7-rib special order direct from Gates (via NAPA auto parts). On top of that, it's pretty damn expensive for a belt. Coupled with the fact that the guy who can datalog/monitor my engine is out on vacation, it'll be another two weeks until I can get everything installed properly and dynoed.
I also found out that because Comptech sets up the S/C kit to run rich already, my RT cat is essentially shot. This means that for all you S/C owners, you'll most likely have to either continually replace cats over its lifetime or run a test pipe. For me, I'm probably going to hollow out my RT cat and run it as a test pipe. Just a word of caution...
I went to get the high boost pulley installed Wed night, but found out that the belt I brought was too long. It turns out that the only belt that can fit with the high boost pulley is a 75.5" 7-rib special order direct from Gates (via NAPA auto parts). On top of that, it's pretty damn expensive for a belt. Coupled with the fact that the guy who can datalog/monitor my engine is out on vacation, it'll be another two weeks until I can get everything installed properly and dynoed.
I also found out that because Comptech sets up the S/C kit to run rich already, my RT cat is essentially shot. This means that for all you S/C owners, you'll most likely have to either continually replace cats over its lifetime or run a test pipe. For me, I'm probably going to hollow out my RT cat and run it as a test pipe. Just a word of caution...
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Originally Posted by DAYTA
Quick update...
I went to get the high boost pulley installed Wed night, but found out that the belt I brought was too long. It turns out that the only belt that can fit with the high boost pulley is a 75.5" 7-rib special order direct from Gates (via NAPA auto parts). On top of that, it's pretty damn expensive for a belt. Coupled with the fact that the guy who can datalog/monitor my engine is out on vacation, it'll be another two weeks until I can get everything installed properly and dynoed.
I also found out that because Comptech sets up the S/C kit to run rich already, my RT cat is essentially shot. This means that for all you S/C owners, you'll most likely have to either continually replace cats over its lifetime or run a test pipe. For me, I'm probably going to hollow out my RT cat and run it as a test pipe. Just a word of caution...
I went to get the high boost pulley installed Wed night, but found out that the belt I brought was too long. It turns out that the only belt that can fit with the high boost pulley is a 75.5" 7-rib special order direct from Gates (via NAPA auto parts). On top of that, it's pretty damn expensive for a belt. Coupled with the fact that the guy who can datalog/monitor my engine is out on vacation, it'll be another two weeks until I can get everything installed properly and dynoed.
I also found out that because Comptech sets up the S/C kit to run rich already, my RT cat is essentially shot. This means that for all you S/C owners, you'll most likely have to either continually replace cats over its lifetime or run a test pipe. For me, I'm probably going to hollow out my RT cat and run it as a test pipe. Just a word of caution...
#36
your gauges look really good, i have some question.
- Where did you get it install?
- how much is it to install?
- Any place you recommended?
- what is the color at night?
thank you and keep it up....
- Where did you get it install?
- how much is it to install?
- Any place you recommended?
- what is the color at night?
thank you and keep it up....
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From: In a NSX down by the river...
Originally Posted by Audioserf
You should hear it fly by you on the freeway with your windows down.