JaTe

here are a couple of pics of my car with 6000k bulbs.
they philips ultinon bulbs.

warming up



6000k (left) vs 4300k (right)

ortiz

Looks pretty good. But the fogs don't match.

How much did the bulbs cost you? Are the fogs stock bulbs?

JaTe

i dont mind that the bulbs dont match...doesnt bother me as it does others.

the bulbs cost $300, but i bought them about 1.5 yrs ago for my audi. i just transferred the bulbs when i got the tsx

ortiz

Thank for the info.

I think I might add that to my mod list.

DEVO

am i the only one that thinks the more blue it looks.. the cheaper it comes across? i guess we have piaa crap "hid" like bulbs to blame... and their copy cats (which are even cheaper looking). I have to say that I like the TSX hid color temp.

JaTe

its actually purple like the hids on the older bmw 7 series. the camera just didnt get the color right. if u look at the reflection on the ground...its purple

vwong

I have to agree with you. I like the stock HID color temp on the TSX better.

STC

iTrader: (1)

less visable light w/ the 6000k. kinda ricey too.

tinyau01

Unlike the halogen that blocks out red and yellow light, the hid is producing more. Therefore, it's not "less visable light w/ the 6000k". It's "more visable light w/ the 6000K". I had an aftermarket 6000K on my Volvo. It doesn't look cheap at all. You can tell the difference immediately with or without those whitebulb next to you.

BDI

DEVO

color temp doesn't dictate visible light... you need to run it through a prism to see each light wave... so halogen lights regardless of their color temp will only have a certain amount of visible light. A 6000K halogen bulb versus a 6000K HID "real hid" bulb will have 2 different ranges of visible light. Guess which one has more.

Anyway, lumens is what you want to look for... but you will not find figures on lumens because they don't want you to know because then you won't buy these "hid" like bulbs out on the markets.

STC

iTrader: (1)

pls educate yourself.

97AcuraCL

do you have to modify the HID System at all? or is it a st8 bulb swap?

BDI

Straight bulb swap.........I believe he has the Phillips Ultinons(sp?) 6000K D2S bulbs.

dickise

Here is a link that has a lot more information on HID bulbs and why manufacturers use the bulbs that they do. Hope this info is useful.

http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html#bulbs

accsuperstar

my 6000ks are in they look awesome

rudedawg

Do they have one available for '03 Accord EX V6? If there's one, I'm buying one for my dad's car.

accsuperstar

have what? HIDS? the accords dont come with hids nor do they have the option for them. You can get an aftermarket kit for them 6000K that runs over 400 bucks that will fit plug and play pretty much into the stock accord lights. Of course those lights arent projector so the output isnt as nice. if you really want to do it right you must get OEM hid retrofit

rudedawg

I know that accords don't come w/ HID's or option, all i'm interested in is the aftermarket, anyway thanks for the heads up.

tuan209

there r some 8000k bulbs now. wonder how those babies are?

Stokeless_TSX

see them bright ass lights aint doing anything but pissin other people off. peeps think that im highbeaming as it is...i can see enough with out update?

BDI

I wouldn't go over 6000K........anything more you would be losing a considerable amount of Lumens(Light output).

dickise

anyone have pics from inside the car at nite with thosee lights on?

STC

iTrader: (1)

yup! i agree. 6000k is too blue = less light output. Just compare his original pics, the one w/ the 6000k bulbs, and the one 4300 stock bulbs. The 6000k are more blue, but theres less visable light on the ground.....where it should count the most.

accsuperstar

you cant judge from the pictures. i had 1 ultinon and 1 6000K and the 6000K is just as bright. im sure it is not supposedly as bright but to the eye you cant really tell. my hids light up the all dark country roads like no other

STC

iTrader: (1)

Probably is just as bright, but not as much *visable* light.
Maybe u guys will understand it this way. 4300k is closest to daylight as you can get w/ HID headlights (except 4300k HIDs highbeams) The higher the number, the more colors are added for effect (4300k = white, 5000k = bluer, 7000k+ = more purple)

Now can you guys tell me that bluer light will light up the road better than white light?

HIDs are for function, 5000k may look cooler from the outside of the car, but what counts and what should be important is how the road looks from the inside of your car.

accsuperstar

im not talking about brightness from looking head on. i am talking about the brightness of the visable light from inside the car. i compared both bulbs 1 in each headlight so i know how they light up the road. anyways the 4300K is more of a white light with hints of yellow and the 6000L is white with hints of blue/purple. you really have to see for yourself to tell that the difference is really unsignificant.

STC

iTrader: (1)

Quote:

Originally posted by accsueprstar
im not talking about brightness from looking head on. i am talking about the brightness of the visable light from inside the car.

You seemed to have missed the point of my post. I mentioned the brightness of the bulbs outside the car only once as I was making my point.

Quote:

Originally posted by accsueprstar
i compared both bulbs 1 in each headlight so i know how they light up the road. anyways the 4300K is more of a white light with hints of yellow and the 6000L is white with hints of blue/purple. you really have to see for yourself to tell that the difference is really unsignificant.

I have seen them for myself too. A friend of mine sold me his 4300k Phillips kit when he bought his Phillips 5000k kit. We compared it like you did, one of each bulb. The 4300k was a sharper and didnt have a slight slight slight haze like the 5000K did.

Again the purpose of headlights is so that you can light up the road like it was day. To each his own though!

accsuperstar

you must be the picky type j/p

i love my ultinons

you love your stock

good for us

JaTe

cant we all just get along? time for a group hug...

iNteGraz92

all oem HIDs are 4300k.

I-MOD

Maybe all Acura OEM's are 4300k. In Europe they use different heat ranges and some if the Euro imports to the US have them. I Got the 7000K bulbs from Japan, I get compliments on them all the time and the output is just as bright as the stock bulb without the yellow.

Stokeless_TSX

i have never noticed any yellow from my bulbs look crystal white to me. only time u can see any color is when im bouncing and ur infront of me or there is chrome on the back of a car infront of me and i hit a bump. i notice that with hid's certain angles u can see blue or purple in them i never noticed yellow though.

I-MOD

You'll notice major yellow if you change them. I thought mine were pretty white until they got changed out. Now other TSX's lights look dull to me.

skoorbevad

Actually, 4300K HID bulbs are the closest current HID color temp to natural sunlight. Buying anything over 5,000k starts losing lumens, and starts looking blue.

Basically, at that point, its just a vanity thing. Some bulb manufacturers are starting to make ridiculous 10000K and 12000K HID bulbs which just look purple.

Silly.

Stick with 4300K, best color temp for actual light output.

I-MOD

It's hardly a vanity thing. I have on my occasions have parked next to other TSX owners at meets and with both cars headlights on you can see a much longer and brighter light patern with the 7000K over stock, The objects in your view are more defined and you have less light "wash out" on wet pavement. Have you ever driven a car with anything other then 4300K? It is a very noticable difference that has nothing to do with looking cool. I don't want bulbs that look like the sun, I want to be able to see better.

tony4311

the color just varies by angle. These were taken on the same night just different angles.

Copacetic

To those with 6000k phillips ultinon, are these the d2s or the d2r bulbs advertised in xenon depot? Thanks.

JaTe

d2s for the tsx...

d2s are used for projector style hid systems (tsx, new tl, audi, bmw)
d2r are used for reflector style hid systems (rl, 2nd gen tl, is300)

Copacetic

How was the install? Plug and play?