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Old 04-11-2006, 04:36 PM
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Zasker's UR SS Pulley Dyno

As promised I had my UR Pulleys installed today and I am very satisfied with the results. I was pretty hesitant to do this as I have never seen a DYNO for the TSX thus I had no idea if this would be a waist or if I would get decent gains. As I wanted to get an accurate dyno graph of a before and after I elected to pay a shop in phoenix to do the install as I was not excited about going to do a DYNO, driving home, doing an install and driving back as the nearest shop is about 45 miles from my house. Install took about 1hr and I elected to do 3 before and after dyno’s. All 6 pulls were done in 4th gear and taken all the way to 7300rpm. The below numbers reflect the best pulls in both series of runs:

Engine RPM
Baseline..........Final.........Gain
HP 180.73.......191.68.....10.95
TQ 150.77.......163.95.....13.18
Engine RPM Dyno:


Engine Speed:
Baseline..........Final.........Gain
HP 180.73......194.14......13.41
TQ 150.77......163.95......13.18
Engine Speed Dyno:

I am not quite sure I understand the difference between the two charts as they are the same runs but with a 2.7hp difference, maybe someone here can elaborate.

Although I am very satisfied with the max numbers, I am more impressed by the consistent power increase across the entire RPM range, in looking at the dyno graphs you can see that the an average gain of 10hp and 10tq were realized across the entire power ban which is very different than a CAI or Header were power gains are typically minimum until 5-6k rpm.

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I have only had time to log about 50 miles on my car but the butt dyno defiantly agrees with the gains and I would say overall I am very satisfied. Throttle response is defiantly improved but it is not night and day such as with a lightened flywheel but the engine defiantly spools faster making for easier rev-matching on down shifts. I am unsure how much time is really needed for the ECU to adjust but I guess it is possible that I could gain or loose a few hp/tq in the next week or so. I wont know till I dyno again in 2 months when I get the hondata reflash which should provide a 15-23hp gain based on their dyno charts.

I need to take some voltage readings of what the Alternator is putting out with the new pulleys but I have to go to Home Depot as I broke my multi meter last night, I will try to get some numbers in the next few days, but I did not take any before readings thus if someone can post before readings I can post the after.
Old 04-11-2006, 04:41 PM
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great writeup Zasker

Someone finally has the pulleys installed and dyno's posted. I have to add this to my list.

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Wow. Nice writeup man

Thank you for getting all of this done. You're the first TSX with the pulleys
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I forgot to add that install was 80 bucks, now that you have a dyno you could do it yourself but you need an impact gun to get the crank pully bolt off. I wanted dynos that why I paid to have the install done. Dynos were another $100
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Sweet Marcus! that's a pretty significant gain.
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Good job on the install and dyno! Very nice gain! The leaner A/F seems to be producing more power.

Btw, do you have the actual dyno files?
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Yeah, I forgot to mention. Those are great numbers. Especially considering they are throughout the entire RPM range.
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No dyno files just print outs, If you want the files I can email ProDyno and request them.
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so does this mean you will be adding pulleys JTso.

Looks like this may get added to my list. Also take some pictures of the pulleys. Do they look nice and make the engine bay look better.

Summer List:
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Hondata

Maybe if I do it all at once I wont need a supercharger and will be happy with the power I get from being only NA.
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Originally Posted by Zasker1
No dyno files just print outs, If you want the files I can email ProDyno and request them.
Yeah, you should request for the *.drf files.
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Btw, did you have to replace the belt with the smaller pulley?
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NO I used the stock belt,
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So I can't run this with my SC setup?
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So can I use this with my SC?
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That's a very nice gain!!!
I guess I would have to consider this mod now for this summer.
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Nice~ Too bad I didn't get the pulleys set from Excelerate b4 Zasker did`
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Zasker have you noticed any difference with the charging of your A/C compressor? You live in Phoenix so I'm sure you'll know sometime soon.

The alternator would only become an issue at idle, imho.
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hey Zasker, can you test out the A/C unit as Schizm said?? I know it won't be too much of a problem but I'm a little concern about that too.
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I detect no negive impact to my AC or powersteering.
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would it work with the comptech s/c anyone know?
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Originally Posted by acuratsxms
would it work with the comptech s/c anyone know?
It wouldn't, unless you left the stock crank pulley, because then you'd end up underdriving the blower. But there wouldn't be any sense in doing that because replacing the crank pulley with a lighter/smaller one is what produces most of the gains.

You could leave the stock crank pulley but then you'd severely mitigate the benefit of adding the pulleys to begin with.

I don't think there'd be a point.
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ah. thank you rmpage. always a step ahead
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Originally Posted by acuratsxms
would it work with the comptech s/c anyone know?
Only if you also replace the blower pulley.
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Marcus, nice to see you got everything installed and the pulleys made good power. I told you guys they would and now we have a dyno to prove it. to you for being the first. Enjoy the mod!!!
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Did you experience a rougher idle?
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wow looks like a must have mod. are the RSX type S guys over at clubrsx using the pulleys also?
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Impressive gain!
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Nice bang for the buck, and all the more impressive since you get gains in the whole band. I'd be really interested if you see any negative problems from this in the next few weeks.
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
Marcus, nice to see you got everything installed and the pulleys made good power. I told you guys they would and now we have a dyno to prove it. to you for being the first. Enjoy the mod!!!

lol...you've been dying to say i told you so for this product huh. i can't believe it's taken this long for someone to try it out either actually. good job zaskar!!
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Wow nice gains. Now I just wanna see what the voltages are. If they are good to go i will be getting these in a few months as long as zaskers car doesnt blow up soon. =P
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Originally Posted by Stokeless_TSX
Wow nice gains. Now I just wanna see what the voltages are. If they are good to go i will be getting these in a few months as long as zaskers car doesnt blow up soon. =P
yeah i want to see the voltages too.
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I will take a voltage reading later today, who wants to sign up to provide a reading on their stock car. I am planning on collecting the following points;

Idle:
1k
2k
3k
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Originally Posted by Zasker1
I will take a voltage reading later today, who wants to sign up to provide a reading on their stock car. I am planning on collecting the following points;

Idle:
1k
2k
3k
Also repeat the same test points with accessories on, simulating night time condition.
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Damn people. Always adding performance mods on with good hp gain. Making me putting it on my list for the summer now. Good job man.
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can you get pictures of the stock crank pulley? I am curious how/if a damper is built in, or if it is a solid piece.
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Voltage readings yet.
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will post tonight
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tight.....waiting...
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Originally Posted by outersquare
can you get pictures of the stock crank pulley? I am curious how/if a damper is built in, or if it is a solid piece.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27876

Excerpt:

"The K-series engine has a one-piece solid steel crank pulley fitted originally. There are no provisions for dampening engine harmonics. Not only such is the case with K-series, but it has also been the case with it's predecessor, the F-series block,"
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Originally Posted by HoRRo
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27876

Excerpt:

"The K-series engine has a one-piece solid steel crank pulley fitted originally. There are no provisions for dampening engine harmonics. Not only such is the case with K-series, but it has also been the case with it's predecessor, the F-series block,"
k24a4 crank pulley

Is the A2 pulley construction different from the A4?


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