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Old 07-18-2008, 01:22 PM
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I want this. I need this. Info plz
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
so how is this better than a supercharger at all?
why is everyone so excited that a TSX has a turbo?

has this really never been done before?
I have to say this is the first turbo TSX I have seen. And yes turbocharging is far superior to supercharging. Its way more efficient, take only a few HP to gain many many HP. Offers far greater options as far as power. Many many more advantages to turbo than SC
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
more info on that gauge unit please.
The engine management system in the car allows you to run the digital cluster and is completely plug n' play. It can display information on every sensor the ECU reads, has programmable LED shift light, displays what gear you are in, and a whole bunch of other things I have yet to explore. Stay tuned...

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Originally Posted by ThirdLane
I have to say this is the first turbo TSX I have seen. And yes turbocharging is far superior to supercharging. Its way more efficient, take only a few HP to gain many many HP. Offers far greater options as far as power. Many many more advantages to turbo than SC
well then...
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
so how is this better than a supercharger at all?
why is everyone so excited that a TSX has a turbo?

has this really never been done before?
Not without discarding VSA, A/C, cruise control, DBW, the factory gauges and some other stuff. Basically it would only be useful for a track car.

Turbos are substantially more efficient than super chargers (produce more boost while sucking less HP away from the motor) and produce a lot more power. Potentially much, much more power but you'd have build the hell out of the motor to handle it.

Edit: Oops, didn't see page two. ThirdLane beat me to it.
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
Not without discarding VSA, A/C, cruise control, DBW, the factory gauges and some other stuff. Basically it would only be useful for a track car.

Turbos are substantially more efficient than super chargers (produce more boost while sucking less HP away from the motor) and produce a lot more power. Potentially much, much more power but you'd have build the hell out of the motor to handle it.

Edit: Oops, didn't see page two. ThirdLane beat me to it.
thanks.

well, like everyone else here I'm watching intently.
it's a wonder this is the first turbo tsx we've seen any details on.
and I'm thankful to the OP for enlightening us.

but what I'm gathering is that for me, for a DD sort of car, the SC is probably
a better choice, and for someone who races, tracks or whatever the turbo is
probably a better choice.

so will this turbo setup hurt the long-term reliability of the stock engine?
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
thanks.

well, like everyone else here I'm watching intently.
it's a wonder this is the first turbo tsx we've seen any details on.
and I'm thankful to the OP for enlightening us.

but what I'm gathering is that for me, for a DD sort of car, the SC is probably
a better choice, and for someone who races, tracks or whatever the turbo is
probably a better choice.

so will this turbo setup hurt the long-term reliability of the stock engine?
Not really. Just because you turbocharge a car doesn't mean its track only. OP states he only lost VSA, CC, and the gauges. I could live without CC, and VSA, but gauges are another thing. For us TSX'ers SC would be the only way to retain the luxuries of VSA, CC, and the gauges. As for reliability, as long as its tuned correctly it can last just as long as a comparable NA engine. Also turbocharging is better if you live in high altitudes since turbo's wastegate would compensate for thinner air. Also OP's race gauge probably cost around $5000 or more.
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The Op is a Baller. $$ BALLIN!!
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Isn't traction control a good thing to have when it rains? Just in case your tires slip
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Originally Posted by ThirdLane
Not really. Just because you turbocharge a car doesn't mean its track only. OP states he only lost VSA, CC, and the gauges. I could live without CC, and VSA, but gauges are another thing. For us TSX'ers SC would be the only way to retain the luxuries of VSA, CC, and the gauges. As for reliability, as long as its tuned correctly it can last just as long as a comparable NA engine. Also turbocharging is better if you live in high altitudes since turbo's wastegate would compensate for thinner air. Also OP's race gauge probably cost around $5000 or more.
Actually, my gauges do work. It's just the warning lights are on but the speedometer, tach, fuel, and temp gauges are all still working. This kit is designed to work around a stock car. IMO the weakest aspect of a stock TSX will be the clutch which is why target WHP is around 300. This kit should give excellent driveability and near stock-like reliability. If you already take care of your car by not missing oil changes, using good quality oil, good quality gas, etc. then it's not extra maintenance for you.

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will this work on AT's?
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If I were to do this I would absolutely put an LSD in at the same time. Especially since you're ditching the VSA.
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when is more info going to be released!! i wanna buy this!
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
If I were to do this I would absolutely put an LSD in at the same time. Especially since you're ditching the VSA.
LSD > VSA anyway
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
will this work on AT's?
We have yet to explore the possibilities of this application for AT cars. I doesn't look like it could work due to the AT transmission requiring VSA and possibly Cruise control to function correctly.
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
If I were to do this I would absolutely put an LSD in at the same time. Especially since you're ditching the VSA.
I am not completely ditching the VSA, I still have it... it's built into my right foot
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Originally Posted by JDMCL9T
We have yet to explore the possibilities of this application for AT cars. I doesn't look like it could work due to the AT transmission requiring VSA and possibly Cruise control to function correctly.
yeah, looks like I'm stuck with a SC option.

however, may MT owners want to turbo their TSX,
and they would be willing to pay to have it done now.

any sort of info for them on steps they can begin to take?
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Would the turbo be functional on a 5AT and damn! i am so jealous. Turbos are so much more fun to drive than a supercharger. Much more of a radical power boost.
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oops didnt see the second page. haha how does the car handle with around three hundred horses to the front wheels? can you slam on the gas without the car wanting to pull from one side to another due to the fact there is no VSA. The LSD in the transmission should keep the tires from spinning right?
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Originally Posted by JDMCL9T
We have yet to explore the possibilities of this application for AT cars. I doesn't look like it could work due to the AT transmission requiring VSA and possibly Cruise control to function correctly.
well, that stinks

have the guys who helped you with the turbo ever considered working with hondata to see if k-pro is even an option?
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
will this work on AT's?
Don't even think about it. Waste of time and money.
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
well, that stinks

have the guys who helped you with the turbo ever considered working with hondata to see if k-pro is even an option?

K-Pro is an option.



Also. Was it a BIT** for you with the manifold and the piping? It sure was for me.
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Originally Posted by daicacharco
K-Pro is an option.



Also. Was it a BIT** for you with the manifold and the piping? It sure was for me.
I spoke with Hondata when my car was turbo the first time. Basically they said they weren't going to help me because they were working on something for their own car. I even asked if I can try the re-flash used for the Comptech SC but they wouldn't sell it to me unless I had the SC, never heard from them again. The manifold wasn't a problem because we started out with a production RSX manifold but the piping took a while. It was well worth it in the end because it came out flawless.
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HOly shit that is one mean car! Where in socal are you located!?
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HOly shit that is one mean car! Where in socal are you located!?
Was in Riverside, now residing in Nor Cal, Sac.
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woww definatelyy subscribin! but loss of traction control kinda scares me
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Originally Posted by LiLS
woww definatelyy subscribin! but loss of traction control kinda scares me
Are people so depended on stability/traction control that they can't exercise restraint when weather dictates so
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Originally Posted by ThirdLane
Are people so depended on stability/traction control that they can't exercise restraint when weather dictates so
ive just had some bad experiences, better safe, then sorry
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Im really excited to see where this goes.....
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
well, that stinks

have the guys who helped you with the turbo ever considered working with hondata to see if k-pro is even an option?
Ya know, I hate to break it to you but I doubt your AT would handle 300whp even if it was possible. Generally, if you're going to go big with things like FI, you get a 6MT.
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Ya know, I hate to break it to you but I doubt your AT would handle 300whp even if it was possible. Generally, if you're going to go big with things like FI, you get a 6MT.
well, here's some news for you--i'm not looking for 300whp, b/c that would obviously be irrational and retarded for an AT. i have an AT b/c my wife doesn't drive stick, and neither do i (although i'd like to learn and have one eventually).

i'm just asking out of curiousity. 07/08 owners have no reflash or supercharger option. if this F/I is possible, even for ATs, albeit to a smaller degree of gains without trashing the tranny or engine, it'd be nice to know the option is there besides bolt-ons.
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The LSD in the transmission should keep the tires from spinning right?
It would if it were there. The TSX does not come with an LSD.
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
well, here's some news for you--i'm not looking for 300whp, b/c that would obviously be irrational and retarded for an AT. i have an AT b/c my wife doesn't drive stick, and neither do i (although i'd like to learn and have one eventually).

i'm just asking out of curiousity. 07/08 owners have no reflash or supercharger option. if this F/I is possible, even for ATs, albeit to a smaller degree of gains without trashing the tranny or engine, it'd be nice to know the option is there besides bolt-ons.
Unfortunatly there are ONLY bolt-ons for our car and some universal chips may work. Other than that I dont think the TSX will ever see more than 250-300 whp. I gotta say tho I love these fourms because its so educational, not only about Acura's but about cars in general. I really wanted a car that could blow the doors off a Volks Wagon .. so I recendly sold my low mileage '05 A/T TSX for $27 000 and put $25 000 down towards a 2004 BMW M3 that was going for $40 000 and had 15 000 KM [not miles .. kilometers].. now thats OverKill .. Believe you me if crazy power is what you want, the TSX is not the place to look. Amazing handling, traction, comfort and very stylish looks Yes! great car, but to add 50 -100 whp and expect it to one day be a crazy power car .. it will never happen. My logic when I sold my car was I'm basically spending $13 000 [40 - 27] by trading and I could dump $13 000 in my TSX, heck, I could dump $20 000 in the TSX [if i had that money anyway lol] and it still wouldn't be half the car the M3 is for that price. Anyone who has driven or has both vehicles knows its true. Sorry if anyone got mad reading this but I am just explaining my logic and the practicality of spending so much money to upgrade a luxury car such as the TSX.
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Unfortunatly there are ONLY bolt-ons for our car and some universal chips may work. Other than that I dont think the TSX will ever see more than 250-300 whp. I gotta say tho I love these fourms because its so educational, not only about Acura's but about cars in general. I really wanted a car that could blow the doors off a Volks Wagon .. so I recendly sold my low mileage '05 A/T TSX for $27 000 and put $25 000 down towards a 2004 BMW M3 that was going for $40 000 and had 15 000 KM [not miles .. kilometers].. now thats OverKill .. Believe you me if crazy power is what you want, the TSX is not the place to look. Amazing handling, traction, comfort and very stylish looks Yes! great car, but to add 50 -100 whp and expect it to one day be a crazy power car .. it will never happen. My logic when I sold my car was I'm basically spending $13 000 [40 - 27] by trading and I could dump $13 000 in my TSX, heck, I could dump $20 000 in the TSX [if i had that money anyway lol] and it still wouldn't be half the car the M3 is for that price. Anyone who has driven or has both vehicles knows its true. Sorry if anyone got mad reading this but I am just explaining my logic and the practicality of spending so much money to upgrade a luxury car such as the TSX.
You paid $40K for a 2004 M3? Now thats overkill. You could pick up 04 M3's with low miles for less than $25K. You got raped on the price buddy or didn't shop hard enough
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Originally Posted by ThirdLane
You paid $40K for a 2004 M3? Now thats overkill. You could pick up 04 M3's with low miles for less than $25K. You got raped on the price buddy or didn't shop hard enough
read it over again
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He said the M3 was going for 40k. Regardless if he had 25K down as a from his old vehicle. 40K for a M3 thats 5 years old is overkill to the negative side. When you can pick up very clean low mileage E46 M3's for 25K or less.
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Originally Posted by Impulse05
Unfortunatly there are ONLY bolt-ons for our car and some universal chips may work. Other than that I dont think the TSX will ever see more than 250-300 whp. I gotta say tho I love these fourms because its so educational, not only about Acura's but about cars in general. I really wanted a car that could blow the doors off a Volks Wagon .. so I recendly sold my low mileage '05 A/T TSX for $27 000 and put $25 000 down towards a 2004 BMW M3 that was going for $40 000 and had 15 000 KM [not miles .. kilometers].. now thats OverKill .. Believe you me if crazy power is what you want, the TSX is not the place to look. Amazing handling, traction, comfort and very stylish looks Yes! great car, but to add 50 -100 whp and expect it to one day be a crazy power car .. it will never happen. My logic when I sold my car was I'm basically spending $13 000 [40 - 27] by trading and I could dump $13 000 in my TSX, heck, I could dump $20 000 in the TSX [if i had that money anyway lol] and it still wouldn't be half the car the M3 is for that price. Anyone who has driven or has both vehicles knows its true. Sorry if anyone got mad reading this but I am just explaining my logic and the practicality of spending so much money to upgrade a luxury car such as the TSX.

OMG, i can get a more powerful car if i spend more money? please enlighten me with more wisdom, oh automotive sage.

thanks, but no thanks for your math lesson. i know what the TSX is capable and not capable of. i'm not looking to smoke people on the road or put 300 HP. and i don't expect 25-50 HP to help me smoke anyone. all i asked is if the kit was ever tested on an AT.

modding is a hobby. i mod my TSX to upgrade certain things, but i'm under no delusion that it's going to outrun faster cars on the road because of it.
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I live in Canada .... cars are $10 000 more here than there for example go to subaru.com then subaru.ca and price out the EXACT same car .. I did .... $10 000 difference. EXACT SAME!! it makes me angry that the States gets everything for so cheap like GAS!!!! you guys are still paying under $1 a litre here its 1.28 a litre. Anyway yeah .. for here an M3 with under 15 000 k/m thats a good price. and a 3 year warenty. but this thread is about the Tsx's turbo!! lets get back to that
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turboooooo dreamz, i want one
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Hmm...that's interesting man. You're not very far from me at all. Are you getting help from one of the local shops? Looking forward to hearing more details of your engine management. Keep up the good work


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