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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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what would be the best route?

hey how you doing guys, I am new to the Acura scene.

I bought my TSX a week ago, and looking foward to do some mods to it. I been driving a VW for my first car, then i got a IS300 i totalled that and now i am driving the tsx. So i am nowhere familiar with the car yet.

What i am looking foward to gain or hoping i would gain is probably 10-15 whp.
what i had in mind was i/h/e. But don't know which brand i would like to go with. I was thinking going comptech all the way thru since i kinda want something subtle. not to loud.

What does a Hondata do?
Comptech Icebox, is there any tone to it while WOT?
Comptech Exhaust, is it high pitch or does it have a deeper growl to it?
Comptech Headers, really loud? i would assume it would be pretty loud with the intake, and exhaust, right?.

Please help a newbie here.

thanks in advance.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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Welcome aboard!

The comptech combo is high quality and if you combined it with the hondata ecu reflash, you'd see very good gains. The intake makes a noticeable difference to the engine sound but pretty well only at half to full throttle. Headers don't change the sound much but some have said they hear a little "wooshing" sound. Exhaust definitely has a deeper note and they sell silencer inserts if you find it too loud.

Try a search or just a quick browse through this section and I'm sure you'll find the answers to most of your questions.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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thanks alot.

I was just afraid the comptech icebox would be a waste of money, since it's more of a box instead of a open filter, but i really was leaning towards the subtle side...

i was wondering how much more power can the hondata give?. i will try to do a search though. thanks alot
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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welcome

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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Ha thanks i was suprised myself. My user name is very common and most likely to be taken by the second. But thanks for all the welcome's...
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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Hondata's website in case you're looking for it: http://www.hondata.com/reflash_tsx.html
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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is that right numbers on the site?

Maximum torque gain 26 ft/lbs torque at 6000 rpm
Maximum power gain 29 hp at 6000 rpm

hmm that's interesting. i guess Hondata is like a s-afc for honda/acuras... if that's the case with all bolt on's and the hondata it will easily pull close to 40hp increase???
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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The 29whp they're quoting is on a car with pretty well all the bolt ons you can buy.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
The 29whp they're quoting is on a car with pretty well all the bolt ons you can buy.
although those bolt ons are comptech.. different brand bolt ons.. say Injen CAI.. with DC headers.. single exhaust instead of dual might prove better gains than the comptech setup..
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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackTSXer
although those bolt ons are comptech.. different brand bolt ons.. say Injen CAI.. with DC headers.. single exhaust instead of dual might prove better gains than the comptech setup..
I agree, if your looking for gains. The all comptech route may not be the best. So far the injen or K&N will give you better gains than the icebox and the DC header will give you better gains than the comptech header. Exhaust gains are pretty small on the TSX. Maybe 3-4 HP.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TsxBoy
is that right numbers on the site?

Maximum torque gain 26 ft/lbs torque at 6000 rpm
Maximum power gain 29 hp at 6000 rpm

hmm that's interesting. i guess Hondata is like a s-afc for honda/acuras... if that's the case with all bolt on's and the hondata it will easily pull close to 40hp increase???
that's also not peak HP gains, those are in the middle of the power band, so you wouldn't have a 230hp TSX
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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But the Hondata is supposed to still improve the performance of the TSX by providing those solid gains lower in the power band.

I'm getting mine this weekend.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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But the Hondata is supposed to still improve the performance of the TSX by providing those solid gains lower in the power band.

I'm getting mine this weekend.
Did you already send it out?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Did you already send it out?
Even better, I'm hand delivering to Epic and they said they'll have it back to me by Tuesday.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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When did you go out west?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Even better, I'm hand delivering to Epic and they said they'll have it back to me by Tuesday.


Can't wait for the review
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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Welcome TsxBoy!

According to users here, Hondata is a really nice mod. IMO, it seems to make our engine the way it should have been programmed in the first place!

A bit of a sad note though is that it's not yet available for '05 ECUs. So if yours is an '05 like mine, then will have to sit tight and wait OR go and find yourself a '04 ECU matching up with your tranny type.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
When did you go out west?
Tomorrow. Flying out at night, back on Monday morning. I'm doing so much traveling this month, it's crazy...
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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Can't wait for the review
Count on it.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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thanks for all the replies....

to bad there are no sound clips of any products onsite...i am still debating though, also read and heard that comptech is coming out with the supercharger for the tsx. Will that apply for m/t or a/t or both?... if so how much hp can the stock a/t on the tsx hold without blowing the tranny. From what i heard awhile back that Honda, Acura's they do not make there tranny to hold much stress. I don't know if that's true or not.

because if i am going the comptech route i might as well ditch out a little more for the s/c. correct?<~ also i know it depends on preference.

I love the TSX i think it's one of the greatest cars in the price range with the best navi on the market IMO, that's why i got it. but i still wish it was a rwd with maybe 40 more hp.. but o well i love the car and it's time to mod it!!. thanks for inputs.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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off topic, but do u like ur tsx better than ur is300? which was quicker and handled better?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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Well put it this way.. i love the interior/exterior of the TSX i would prefer tsx over IS300 anyday over styling, not saying the IS is a ugly car.. i love the way it look also it was more sportier. The tail lights on the IS was just ok for me, wasn't great but just ok. But like i said IS300 and tsx are great cars..

Performance: a/t is vs a/t tsx i would say IS300 will beat it from start to end.
if we compare m/t is300 vs m/t TSX they will be close i would even say the tsx might get a head start due to traction from the rwd of the IS300, but once IS hit's 40 mph it's over for the TSX.

Don't forget that I6 will always have advantage over a I4 once both cars are rolling already.
and plus the VVTI is contant vs vtec you must hit the high rpms before it pulls, so for vtec there is very under power at the low end..

Handling- it's hard to compare, stock for stock suspension i feel less body roll in the TSX... and with cornering i would say the IS has better turning radius.

what i love about the is300- RWD, very torquey, i still love the engine code "same as the n/a supra" 2jz, and defitnitly you can make the IS to a super car "sedan" easily...

but with the tsx, it will be hard to even try to get it to 300+ hp car... without blowing pistons...

but i bought the tsx for looks, the quality for the price range is great. I had a option to pick over tsx, 350z, g35 both 350z and g35 are so much quiker but i decided to get the tsx. just my preference...

my mods on the IS300...
injen gen 3 intake
hks hiper exhaust
toyomoto headers
safc tuned.
dynoed at 214rwhp.
which i thought was pretty good.. i beat a s2k from a roll @ 55, but at the line he will kill me for sure.

over all both cars are good in different ways, but IMO if you are looking foward to build up a car the IS300 would be a funner car to build.
IS300 is just a faster car stock vs tsx, but tsx is just a greater looking car!

one of my favorite IS300:

http://www.is300.net/forums/showthread.php?t=252108

In conclusion to me i feel the TSX is more of a mature car, handles great, looks great. One big turn off is the FWD!!! but other than that, the car is terrific..
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Old May 13, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Well put it this way.. i love the interior/exterior of the TSX i would prefer tsx over IS300 anyday over styling, not saying the IS is a ugly car.. i love the way it look also it was more sportier. The tail lights on the IS was just ok for me, wasn't great but just ok. But like i said IS300 and tsx are great cars..

Performance: a/t is vs a/t tsx i would say IS300 will beat it from start to end.
if we compare m/t is300 vs m/t TSX they will be close i would even say the tsx might get a head start due to traction from the rwd of the IS300, but once IS hit's 40 mph it's over for the TSX.

Don't forget that I6 will always have advantage over a I4 once both cars are rolling already.
and plus the VVTI is contant vs vtec you must hit the high rpms before it pulls, so for vtec there is very under power at the low end..

Handling- it's hard to compare, stock for stock suspension i feel less body roll in the TSX... and with cornering i would say the IS has better turning radius.

what i love about the is300- RWD, very torquey, i still love the engine code "same as the n/a supra" 2jz, and defitnitly you can make the IS to a super car "sedan" easily...

but with the tsx, it will be hard to even try to get it to 300+ hp car... without blowing pistons...

but i bought the tsx for looks, the quality for the price range is great. I had a option to pick over tsx, 350z, g35 both 350z and g35 are so much quiker but i decided to get the tsx. just my preference...

my mods on the IS300...
injen gen 3 intake
hks hiper exhaust
toyomoto headers
safc tuned.
dynoed at 214rwhp.
which i thought was pretty good.. i beat a s2k from a roll @ 55, but at the line he will kill me for sure.

over all both cars are good in different ways, but IMO if you are looking foward to build up a car the IS300 would be a funner car to build.
IS300 is just a faster car stock vs tsx, but tsx is just a greater looking car!

one of my favorite IS300:

http://www.is300.net/forums/showthread.php?t=252108

In conclusion to me i feel the TSX is more of a mature car, handles great, looks great. One big turn off is the FWD!!! but other than that, the car is terrific..
A pretty fair comparison write-up, thanks!

However, I feel the need to "argue" against your "big turn off is FWD" talk. I love spirited driving, I had an E46 325i sports and now in the TSX. I don't feel TSX being FWD is a drawback.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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let me rephrase that.. there is nothing wrong with front wheel drive, I just don't like the fact that it wheel hops once the car has more power. I just think rwd looks better launching with wheel spin..

I just love drifting, that's why fwd feels a little weird to me. very safe though.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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i-vtec is actually used on the TSX so it's constant to a degree aswell, it just gets more agressive in the higher revs. The lack of torque is because its an average capacity I4 pulling a fairly heavy car. Torque for an engine of this type is actually above average. We have an IS300 in the family too (my mums) and i think it has a tighter chassis just by the way it can tackle corners. I feel way more at home in my euro tho and i think accelration wise (AT is300 VS. MT euro) i'd win out.

Both awesome cars tho ay, made a damn good choice with the TSX
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Old May 14, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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you are correct but once again you said is300 a/t vs a tsx w/ m/t... like i said above from a line yes, but once you hit 40-60 mph you have no way catching up with the IS300. please remember I6 will always have advantage over a I4. I feel at home too in my tsx.. loving it more and more... but the fact is IS300 overall is a quiker car... But IS300 is dissapointing, i say that because it's a I6 and still can't beat the tsx by much only at higher speed.

But then again i don't want to compare speed, people buy cars for there own reasons.. IS300 buyers buys them to fix them up since supra's are no longer in production, and TSX owners buys there car for the feel and quality of the luxury.

hope i am getting this all correct.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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you are correct but once again you said is300 a/t vs a tsx w/ m/t... like i said above from a line yes, but once you hit 40-60 mph you have no way catching up with the IS300. please remember I6 will always have advantage over a I4. I feel at home too in my tsx.. loving it more and more... but the fact is IS300 overall is a quiker car... But IS300 is dissapointing, i say that because it's a I6 and still can't beat the tsx by much only at higher speed.

But then again i don't want to compare speed, people buy cars for there own reasons.. IS300 buyers buys them to fix them up since supra's are no longer in production, and TSX owners buys there car for the feel and quality of the luxury.

hope i am getting this all correct.
well put!!!

You mentioned you like drifting in another previous post... now that explains the FWD vs RWD talk you did
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