TOV insight about AEM Fuel/Ignition Controller

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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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TOV insight about AEM Fuel/Ignition Controller

http://vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=631542

I just saw this article thought some of you like to hear about it.
Guess there is hope ?
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Let's hope so. Nice find.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Hmm...that looks very interesting. One of the key things they mentioned is that it effects the outputs of the ECU. Since the K Series ECU are supposedly resistent to changes in the inputs, I think that's a very good thing.

I wonder if it has it's own MAP sensor input. One of the problems for people with boost is that we cannot let the ECU see boost at this point or else it will throw a CEL. To get around this companies such as Comptech clamp the MAP sensor voltage and let their piggyback module control the fuel management. The problem with this though is the ECU never sees the real MAP reading when boost engages. So in order to use it in a FI setup, a unit like this AEM is going to need its own MAP input. This looks great for the NA people though
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Can't wait to see the product. It's also programmable.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Can't wait to see the product. It's also programmable.
Jinkies!
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Can't wait to see the product. It's also programmable.
Yep, that's the coolest part!
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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would this product be only for boosted vehicles or could any tsx take advantage of its capabilities? with my 05 auto, i need to do something to squeeze out a few more naturally aspirated ponies ...
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Any TSX could take advantage of it, and it's probably intended more for naturally aspirated setups than boosted setups. So that's great news for the 05 AT people. With it being user programmable, you should be able to have your car custom tuned for the exact parts you have on your car.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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sounds sick
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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I'm very interested in this.

Makes me glad now that I put off the Hondata reflash.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbo3123
I'm very interested in this.

Makes me glad now that I put off the Hondata reflash.
Keep in mind any programmable device would require hours of labor and dyno time for tuning. Unless you have tuning experience and access to such equipment, it could potentially cost a lot more than the reflash.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Keep in mind any programmable device would require hours of labor and dyno time for tuning. Unless you have tuning experience and access to such equipment, it could potentially cost a lot more than the reflash.
So, you don't think that anyone (Or AEM themselves) would provide standard sets of parameters (or configuration files) with reflash like changes to the fuel mapping and VTEC RPM?

Is this a totally stupid question?
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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I found some discussion about it in the AEM forums:
http://forum.aempower.com/forum/inde...c,18408.0.html

I thing I'm not sure about is whether or not you'll be able to change your Vtec point. It doesn't look like they mention that. What do you guys think?
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbo3123
So, you don't think that anyone (Or AEM themselves) would provide standard sets of parameters (or configuration files) with reflash like changes to the fuel mapping and VTEC RPM?

Is this a totally stupid question?
Since it's an universal device to use with an adpater harness for a particular car, it may have some default settings but chances are those settings may not work for all cars. Some cars come with larger injectors than others. Therefore, someone who is experienced will need to modify the base map for a particular setup so the engine will at least start to get it on the rollers for tunning.

Additional maps with better tunes may be available once the product hits the street. Until then, you will need to rely on a tuner or AEM to provide a base map for a particular car as a starting point for tuning.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
I found some discussion about it in the AEM forums:
http://forum.aempower.com/forum/inde...c,18408.0.html

I thing I'm not sure about is whether or not you'll be able to change your Vtec point. It doesn't look like they mention that. What do you guys think?
Platform-specific features from a universal device? I kinda doubt that. Also, they only call it a "fuel and ignition controller" for what I think are some very obvious reasons. Intercepting outgoing signals means it won't scuttle an ECU like VAFC or Emanage will, but that also means the ECU will be operating according to its own internal program and nothing else. So while compatibility and stability will go up, flexibility with what you can do will go down.

Really, for a few hundred bucks this seems like a neat way to tweak your mixture and spark timing, but for controlling something as complex as VTEC/VTC, a VTEC window, mixture, ignition, and maybe a wastegate solenoid - all at the same time - you're still looking at a very costly standalone.
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