Suspension or Hondata...tough choice
#1
Suspension or Hondata...tough choice
So guys, I'm limiting myself to one mod this summer, the next one probably wont come till around new years. I have two options...
1) Hondata - I have intake/exhaust with no plans for headers before spring
~ $600
2) Suspension - I live in the Boston area, and potholes are a real threat IMO, I would probably go for Neuspeed/Koni or just A-Spec. I do have rims (18" chrome Inspyres) but only from march-late october.
~ $1000 or ~$800
I need some opinions on which I am going to appreciate more from day to day with the things I've mentioned kept in mind. I do rev high, I do go over a lot of bumps, I mostly take short trips, my car is MT and does ride like a 4x4. This is a present to myself for working all summer, I want to make sure I pick the right thing. Based on my situation, what do you guys think?
1) Hondata - I have intake/exhaust with no plans for headers before spring
~ $600
2) Suspension - I live in the Boston area, and potholes are a real threat IMO, I would probably go for Neuspeed/Koni or just A-Spec. I do have rims (18" chrome Inspyres) but only from march-late october.
~ $1000 or ~$800
I need some opinions on which I am going to appreciate more from day to day with the things I've mentioned kept in mind. I do rev high, I do go over a lot of bumps, I mostly take short trips, my car is MT and does ride like a 4x4. This is a present to myself for working all summer, I want to make sure I pick the right thing. Based on my situation, what do you guys think?
#3
Hondata.
Money left over goes for tint and more importantly, a Comptech rear sway bar. It'll make the car handle a lot better, although won't make it look lower (obviously). It does eliminate body roll and help with higher-speed cornering. Plus it's only $115 shipped.
Money left over goes for tint and more importantly, a Comptech rear sway bar. It'll make the car handle a lot better, although won't make it look lower (obviously). It does eliminate body roll and help with higher-speed cornering. Plus it's only $115 shipped.
#6
I'd go for suspension. To me it seems like lowering the car would give you overall more bang for the buck than the hondata. Isn't it only a few horsepower bump? I'm not sure that it really makes that big of a difference. To me a lot of mods work on the placebo effect. You know you added something new, so you're REALLY trying to justify it by looking for every tiny increase in performance. If it was a turbo and you got a 50hp bump, that'd be a different story - that would really transform the car. Just my two cents.
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#8
Yup, suspension. The TSX is NOT a fast car by any measure. The reflash, which is a generic ECU tune, is impressive and very well done. But as the saying goes, you can't polish a turd. Saving something extreme like cams, a stroker kit, T/C or S/C, you're not going to see a lot of power out of this car. However, the TSX does handle like butter, even on stock suspension. Since you already have a RSB I would DEFINTELY put some shocks/springs on. The two will compliment each other amazingly well.
You could do the Neuspeed/Koni setup like virtualbong and I have (you've seen our cars in person) or you could get a set of TEIN Basic coilovers. I would recommend the coilovers up here in MA. The ability to easily adjust ride height through the seasons for different wheels and tires will be invaluable. After doing my suspension, I've been in love with this car. It is a true pleasure to drive in all but the worst traffic. Anytime I take a corner is a blast. If you are worried about ride quality, consensus on the Basics is that they are hardly noticeably harsher than stock despite having much stiffer spring rates, primarily because the shock/spring is matched very well by the folks at TEIN.
So yes, upgrade the suspension and maximize the TSX's strong points. It is not a fast car and without thousands of dollars of work it never will be. For somebody with a budget, suspension is the way to go. Also, it is going to make your car look 1000x better as somebody said above. Suspension is usually the first thing I do to a vehicle I own.
You could do the Neuspeed/Koni setup like virtualbong and I have (you've seen our cars in person) or you could get a set of TEIN Basic coilovers. I would recommend the coilovers up here in MA. The ability to easily adjust ride height through the seasons for different wheels and tires will be invaluable. After doing my suspension, I've been in love with this car. It is a true pleasure to drive in all but the worst traffic. Anytime I take a corner is a blast. If you are worried about ride quality, consensus on the Basics is that they are hardly noticeably harsher than stock despite having much stiffer spring rates, primarily because the shock/spring is matched very well by the folks at TEIN.
So yes, upgrade the suspension and maximize the TSX's strong points. It is not a fast car and without thousands of dollars of work it never will be. For somebody with a budget, suspension is the way to go. Also, it is going to make your car look 1000x better as somebody said above. Suspension is usually the first thing I do to a vehicle I own.
#10
Originally Posted by rmpage
Yup, suspension. The TSX is NOT a fast car by any measure. The reflash, which is a generic ECU tune, is impressive and very well done. But as the saying goes, you can't polish a turd. Saving something extreme like cams, a stroker kit, T/C or S/C, you're not going to see a lot of power out of this car. However, the TSX does handle like butter, even on stock suspension. Since you already have a RSB I would DEFINTELY put some shocks/springs on. The two will compliment each other amazingly well.
You could do the Neuspeed/Koni setup like virtualbong and I have (you've seen our cars in person) or you could get a set of TEIN Basic coilovers. I would recommend the coilovers up here in MA. The ability to easily adjust ride height through the seasons for different wheels and tires will be invaluable. After doing my suspension, I've been in love with this car. It is a true pleasure to drive in all but the worst traffic. Anytime I take a corner is a blast. If you are worried about ride quality, consensus on the Basics is that they are hardly noticeably harsher than stock despite having much stiffer spring rates, primarily because the shock/spring is matched very well by the folks at TEIN.
So yes, upgrade the suspension and maximize the TSX's strong points. It is not a fast car and without thousands of dollars of work it never will be. For somebody with a budget, suspension is the way to go. Also, it is going to make your car look 1000x better as somebody said above. Suspension is usually the first thing I do to a vehicle I own.
You could do the Neuspeed/Koni setup like virtualbong and I have (you've seen our cars in person) or you could get a set of TEIN Basic coilovers. I would recommend the coilovers up here in MA. The ability to easily adjust ride height through the seasons for different wheels and tires will be invaluable. After doing my suspension, I've been in love with this car. It is a true pleasure to drive in all but the worst traffic. Anytime I take a corner is a blast. If you are worried about ride quality, consensus on the Basics is that they are hardly noticeably harsher than stock despite having much stiffer spring rates, primarily because the shock/spring is matched very well by the folks at TEIN.
So yes, upgrade the suspension and maximize the TSX's strong points. It is not a fast car and without thousands of dollars of work it never will be. For somebody with a budget, suspension is the way to go. Also, it is going to make your car look 1000x better as somebody said above. Suspension is usually the first thing I do to a vehicle I own.
If you had to do it all over again, would you get the Basics, or stick to the Neuspeed Koni setup? I have yet to swap out my A-Spec, but was pretty focused on going the Neuspeed Koni route with either Neuspeed or Comptech springs... Have you been in a Tein Basics TSX that you can compare the ride quality with your own?
I want improved handling, but ride quality and futher elimination of wheel gap come first for me since the car already handles pretty well.
DAMN all of you! Everytime I think I have it all figured out, y'all say something that makes me go "hmmmmm"...
#12
Originally Posted by amadeus303
Rmpage,
If you had to do it all over again, would you get the Basics, or stick to the Neuspeed Koni setup? I have yet to swap out my A-Spec, but was pretty focused on going the Neuspeed Koni route with either Neuspeed or Comptech springs... Have you been in a Tein Basics TSX that you can compare the ride quality with your own?
If you had to do it all over again, would you get the Basics, or stick to the Neuspeed Koni setup? I have yet to swap out my A-Spec, but was pretty focused on going the Neuspeed Koni route with either Neuspeed or Comptech springs... Have you been in a Tein Basics TSX that you can compare the ride quality with your own?
You may want to consider some Comptech 110-155 springs (the ones for the TL) and a set of Neuspeed Konis. AlterZgo has this setup, his car looks amazing, and he says it rides very well. In another thread recently LannyM (another big suspension goto-guy around here) said that he feels the Konis are best compatible with linear-rate springs. The Comptechs are linear, while the Neuspeed and Eibach springs are progressive. The Comptech spring rates are also very close to stock/A-SPEC. Using them, combined with the Koni's ability to lower the car via the spring perches, might be the ideal solution for you.
Check these threads:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24465
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24649
I want improved handling, but ride quality and futher elimination of wheel gap come first for me since the car already handles pretty well.
DAMN all of you! Everytime I think I have it all figured out, y'all say something that makes me go "hmmmmm"...
#13
Alright guys, you've definitely been a huge help. Suspension is the way I'm goin I guess, with the points you've made I'm sure I wont regret it. Plus, there's nothing to show with the reflash anyway!
Now I know where to get a good price on the neuspeed/koni shocks (550 is good, right?)...does anybody know a good place to buy the Comptech springs (and whats up with those...155 rides better?)
Ry, I'm not planning on changing the height very often (if at all). Do you think the Tein Basic would be softer than the setup I mentioned above?
p.s. mg7726 i take my pink dice very seriously
Now I know where to get a good price on the neuspeed/koni shocks (550 is good, right?)...does anybody know a good place to buy the Comptech springs (and whats up with those...155 rides better?)
Ry, I'm not planning on changing the height very often (if at all). Do you think the Tein Basic would be softer than the setup I mentioned above?
p.s. mg7726 i take my pink dice very seriously
#14
Originally Posted by madmanmax3000
Ry, I'm not planning on changing the height very often (if at all). Do you think the Tein Basic would be softer than the setup I mentioned above?
Starting a thread in the suspension section will no doubt catch the eye of the suspension gurus around here. I suggest doing that and getting some answers before going any further.
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