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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Supercharger question

As you know, I got an 05 AT... Just to clear things up, I will NOT be able to supercharge my car right? Is it because my ECU cannot be reflashed?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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Yeah, basically. NJTsxman has an 05AT with an 04 ECU and supercharger though. That's pretty much the only way you would be able to do it.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 02:01 AM
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I'm still holding off for a Turbo....SC would be nice tho.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Yes, as was mentioned, you would have to swap your ECU with an 04 ECU. Everything bolts up the same; it's the ECU Honda changed.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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you CAN supercharge your car ... you just CAN'T utilize the reflash that comes with the comptech kit. thus, the sc kit won't give you all the hp/tq gains that everyone else gets with the reflash
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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whats the price on the SC rite now?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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^ it's usually in the area of $4000+ just depends what web site you go to
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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That usually the price without installation from the places close to me (Colorado/New Mexico). When the price gets around $2k+installation, I'll really consider an S/C. An S/C would really help with high altitude driving in my area (5000-8000 feet).

I will do all the intake/exhaust mods in the mean time to get ready for the S/C in the future.

Will Hondata give you a discount or free reflash of the S/C ECU if you already have the reg Hondata reflash?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgold35

Will Hondata give you a discount or free reflash of the S/C ECU if you already have the reg Hondata reflash?
contact comptech because the hondata reflash is included in their supercharger kit
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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O man my bad MODS I thought I put this in the performance section. But are there any diff. between 04 and 05 ECU that will mess up my car if I do the swap? And where can I get one?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
That usually the price without installation from the places close to me (Colorado/New Mexico). When the price gets around $2k+installation, I'll really consider an S/C. An S/C would really help with high altitude driving in my area (5000-8000 feet).

I will do all the intake/exhaust mods in the mean time to get ready for the S/C in the future.

Will Hondata give you a discount or free reflash of the S/C ECU if you already have the reg Hondata reflash?
You pay the money to Comptech, and I'm not sure how their relationship with Hondata works. I don't think you would get a discount.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
Will Hondata give you a discount or free reflash of the S/C ECU if you already have the reg Hondata reflash?
I thought of that too, but I contacted Hondata already and they said there would be no discount for the S/C reflash if you get the standard one first. The reason being the need for an unmodded ECU to reflash, so it's irrelevant for their purposes whether you've already been reflashed or not.

This is actually pretty frustrating for me because I definitely want more power beyond bolt-ons, so I've been debating between waiting for the '06 S/C and just getting the '06 reflash + UR pulleys. Thing is, I don't want to waste $600+ on the reflash if I get the S/C (the pulleys I know I can still sell later on).

What do you guys think?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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I would wait for the SC if you already have your mind set on it. Have you called Comptech lately to ask them for availability of the 06 kit? Do you have a MT or AT?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Or if you're a glass-half-full kinda of guy like me, they offer a discount for RSX reflash customers to upgrade to KPro

(here's to hoping)
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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We could always sell with a trade the Hondata ECU with a non reflashed TSX ECU in the black-market section. At least you be able to make back around $300-$400 back on the original reflash.

I'm about 12-18 months away from doing the regular reflash with intake/exhaust mods and about 36-48 months away from an S/C on my 06. I will just take the lost on the 1st reflash if I get 2 good years out of it.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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I would wait for the SC if you already have your mind set on it. Have you called Comptech lately to ask them for availability of the 06 kit? Do you have a MT or AT?
I did talk to Comptech about a week ago, and they were hoping to release it within the next year (they have a few other S/C kits to release first).

I have an '06 6MT, which I think will help since they tend to release MT S/Cs before AT ones, right?. I've already done most of the bolt-ons (CT I/H/E, RT Cat is last on the list for exhaust mods), so when the S/C finally becomes available, I'll be ready.


Here's hoping to a mid-early spring '07 release .
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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you CAN supercharge your car ... you just CAN'T utilize the reflash that comes with the comptech kit. thus, the sc kit won't give you all the hp/tq gains that everyone else gets with the reflash
Eh what? The SC needs ECU reprogramming in order to work properly. That is the whole reason why Comptech took so long releasing the SC to begin with. Driving the car with a stock ECU program and a blower bolted on will not end well, possibly with a damaged engine.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Eh what? The SC needs ECU reprogramming in order to work properly. That is the whole reason why Comptech took so long releasing the SC to begin with. Driving the car with a stock ECU program and a blower bolted on will not end well, possibly with a damaged engine.
I don't believe the reflash is programmed to process positive manifold pressure. My guess is the car won't even go 1 second on boost without triggering the CEL.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
We could always sell with a trade the Hondata ECU with a non reflashed TSX ECU in the black-market section. At least you be able to make back around $300-$400 back on the original reflash.
Keep in mind you would also need to include the matching immobilizer and transponder chip in order to make it worthwhile for the buyer.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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This is actually pretty frustrating for me because I definitely want more power beyond bolt-ons, so I've been debating between waiting for the '06 S/C and just getting the '06 reflash + UR pulleys. Thing is, I don't want to waste $600+ on the reflash if I get the S/C (the pulleys I know I can still sell later on).

What do you guys think?
Bumping my previous question. I would've made it a poll, but I'm not sure how .

All else even, I think I'd wait for the 06 6MT S/C. However, with the amount of posts I've been reading from people who absolutely love their reflash, my impatience is getting to me. Also, with my car being relatively new (4 months, 5400 mi), I'd really like to keep my warranty intact for as long as possible which I doubt I'd be able to do with a S/C...
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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the s/c reflash also has a nasty hesitation that is more profound in auto tsx's...comptech is still working on this issue, but it's only noticeable between 2-3k...so if your a city driver like me its gonna suck being in D mode.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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jmathew34, any eta on that new reflash for the hesitation?
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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haven't heard anything new...

i'd give them a call, at least that way they know were are still waiting for it...
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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I'm waiting for a call from comptech so i'll ask them about it. I got a new belt and tensioner assembly from them the other day because i was having some issues. I thought it was going to be super crazy putting the new belt on but it wasn't so bad. Comptech really does have great customer service.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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what would be a rough engine output (not wheel hp) of 5speed auto. SC with Hondata reflash ECU
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Bumping my previous question. I would've made it a poll, but I'm not sure how .

All else even, I think I'd wait for the 06 6MT S/C. However, with the amount of posts I've been reading from people who absolutely love their reflash, my impatience is getting to me. Also, with my car being relatively new (4 months, 5400 mi), I'd really like to keep my warranty intact for as long as possible which I doubt I'd be able to do with a S/C...
Keep in mind all of the other things on the horizon for NA applications for the TSX. For 2006 owners, it's even better because of your cams, IM, TB, etc.

Things to consider that might come out before the 06 SC kit:
1. Hytech full exaust setup + reflash - check out shaang's prototype setup where his car is putting down more torque than some of ours make hp
2. IPS - while it's very quiet on what is going on with usurbrain's TSX, IPS has made some ground-breaking products in the k-series world.
3. Kpro - I'm keeping my eye on the 2006 Civic Si. Why? Because if Hondata is able to figure out how to get the Civic's DBW figured out, then there's a good chance we'll have it for the TSX. The Civic's tuner market is huge and will only get bigger when the RSX's are officially off dealer lots.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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It's still being worked on! You know how these things go. Ron's a really good friend of mine, so I'm not worried about it. He never disappoints. If you read on k20a.org or clubrsx.com, he has quite a following.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd
3. Kpro - I'm keeping my eye on the 2006 Civic Si. Why? Because if Hondata is able to figure out how to get the Civic's DBW figured out, then there's a good chance we'll have it for the TSX. The Civic's tuner market is huge and will only get bigger when the RSX's are officially off dealer lots.
good point, though the Si uses a MAF sensor so I'd be curious how similar its ECU is to ours.
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