Supercharger installation progress.. stuck!

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Old 05-27-2006 | 08:34 PM
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Supercharger installation progress.. stuck!

I decided this weekend would be perfect to install my supercharger, as I have 3 days to do so. Well, it looks like I just got stuck, because I am unable to remove the cooling hose fitting from the intake manifold. For some reason the fitting refuses to come out. I've turned the fitting about 5 times so far (counter clock-wise), and it each time it doesn't come out any further. Also, it's super hard to turn as I've been using a closed end wrench on the thing in order to turn it. Here is a picture of what I'm talking about..



Does anyone know if that is a generic fitting that an autoparts store would carry? I hope so.. otherwise I'm totally screwed, as all dealers are closed tomorrow and monday. I'm stumped as to why the fitting is so difficult to remove, as it appears that is just a threaded fitting.
Old 05-27-2006 | 08:38 PM
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That's not a screw on fitting. It's pressed in. Does the installation require it to come out? I would think the new SC manifold should have one already...

Edit: I just read the instructions. You only need to remove the air bypass valve on top of the stock manifold (step 10), not the fitting. The new SC manifold has the fitting already.

http://www.comptechusa.com/store/med...harger_kit.pdf
Old 05-27-2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
That's not a screw on fitting. It's pressed in. Does the installation require it to come out? I would think the new SC manifold should have one already...
Oh man.. I feel like an idiot now. Jtso, thanks so much for your response! I just verified and the kit does in fact have new fitting. I also, double checked the instructions and noticed that the new fitting bends at 45 degrees instead of 90 degrees. The good news is that I can continue with my install. Bad news is that I totally chewed up my stock fitting, so if I ever need to put the stock manifold back on will probably have to have a new fitting put in.

Thanks again, I'm so glad to be able to continue!
Old 05-27-2006 | 08:50 PM
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The stock fitting looks to be ok where the hose clamp would go. So it's still functional should you need to restore back to stock.
Old 05-28-2006 | 12:24 AM
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Haha, i did that too. Tried everything to take the stock fitting off.

Don't forget to tighten it down later - I forgot, had a coolant leak, and had to deal with that!

Good luck
Old 05-28-2006 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JTso
The stock fitting looks to be ok where the hose clamp would go. So it's still functional should you need to restore back to stock.
Agreed, it looks as if you put a few marks on it but it's still 100% functional. You just bumped up the cosmetic factor. But nobody will even know about it since a hose goes over it and you can't even see it.
Old 05-28-2006 | 02:39 AM
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Old 05-28-2006 | 10:25 AM
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Good to know that I wasn't the first person who tried to take the stock fitting off. I'm also glad that I'd still be able to use the stock fitting if I need to.

Ok, now I have another question. I installed the belt tensioner, but it appears that there isn't enough clearance between it and the supercharger pulley. It looks as if the bolts that stick out of the supercharger pulley will rub the metal plate. I've attached the picture below to explain..



The only reason I could think that would cause this is that the inside spacer that was used when I installed the idler pulley wasn't think enough. I triple checked, however, and that was the only spacer that I received. In the comptech instructions it appears that there is much more clearance. Can someone confirm if this is normal, or if there is anything else I can check?
Old 05-28-2006 | 12:38 PM
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Give me a min and I will look at mine and see if there is a problem. I think when I installed mine it was very close!

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The picture in step # 27 in the instructions does seem the clearance is tight, but not as tight as yours.
Old 05-28-2006 | 01:07 PM
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Took a picture but can not upload it here! Will send in email if you want?

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Old 05-28-2006 | 02:19 PM
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There's a washer that isn't referenced in the instructions.

If you look at all the parts that are leftover, there's one washer / spacer / something that will fit and even out the offset perfectly.

I'd be more specific but I don't have the parts list in front of me.

Do you have the parts list handy? can you give me the name / part number for the goodyear belt?
Old 05-28-2006 | 02:31 PM
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I checked and I don't have any leftover parts. I believe the washer you are referring too is the called the Inner idler pulley spacer (357-220-135), and I did install that. It was approximately the thickness of 2 normal washers (maybe 1/8").

The goodyear belt is 4070775 7PK1970.

azal, I just pm'ed you with my email address. Does it appear that your clearance is really close as well? The pulley itself seems to be fine, it is the bolts that hold the pulley on which I'm worried about.
Old 05-28-2006 | 02:45 PM
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There should be about 1/8" of clearance between the tensioner and pulley. It is definitely tight. There is about 1/8" of clearance to the right of the tensioner and a little more clearance on the left between the tensioner and the fluid.

Just went out to take some pics for you, but they didn't turn out too good. Hopefully they at least help some.




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Thanks for the pics, those definitely helped. From your pictures it looks like the bolts in your supercharger pulley do not stick out beyond the pulley itself. Can you please confirm? Mine definitely stick out beyond the pulley. I wonder if Comptech changed something?

I also noticed that the tensioner pulley isn't perfectly aligned up with the alternator pulley underneath. I'd say it's maybe 1/32" too far to the inside. Can you see how yours looks?

I've emailed Comptech and will give them a call on Tuesday to see what they say.
Old 05-28-2006 | 04:10 PM
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Thats pretty brave of you to attempt the Supercharge install yourself.
Old 05-28-2006 | 04:16 PM
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Just checked and it doesn't look like my bolts stick out beyond the pulley. It's pretty much flush with the side of the pulley.

Also, checked the alternator pulley underneath. It looks like mine is pretty much perfectly aligned. It might be off to the left side a tiny bit, but when I look at it straight on it looks like it's pretty close to being perfect.
Old 05-28-2006 | 05:58 PM
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Just checked and it doesn't look like my bolts stick out beyond the pulley. It's pretty much flush with the side of the pulley.

Also, checked the alternator pulley underneath. It looks like mine is pretty much perfectly aligned. It might be off to the left side a tiny bit, but when I look at it straight on it looks like it's pretty close to being perfect.
Ok, thanks for checking. It looks like I definitely will need to ask Comptech about my setup.

I just finished installing everything else, except for the CPU that I shipped out on Saturday. If all goes well, I should have my car up and running next week!
Old 05-28-2006 | 06:56 PM
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damn that is pretty brave to install the supercharger

props to you man, good luck with the rest
Old 05-28-2006 | 07:55 PM
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yah man....cool thread....awesome
Old 05-28-2006 | 11:11 PM
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Ok, thanks for checking. It looks like I definitely will need to ask Comptech about my setup.

I just finished installing everything else, except for the CPU that I shipped out on Saturday. If all goes well, I should have my car up and running next week!
whoa... sending it out to comptech? or hondata?
Old 05-30-2006 | 11:04 AM
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Thought I'd provide an update.. I just called Comptech and apparently they have had the issue I am having on a couple of other TSX's as well. They actually weren't sure what is different, but have seen the issue on other cars as well. Fortunately, they have replacement parts and will be sending those out to me when they send back the ECU. Excellent customer service, they were really friendly and helpful on the phone. They should be receiving my ECU today, and I should be receiving it back tomorrow. I can't wait! Hopefully all went well and my car will start. I'm keeping my fingers crossed
Old 05-30-2006 | 11:08 AM
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did they mention any part numbers that will be replaced?

wonder if any of the current s/c owners are being notified?
Old 05-30-2006 | 11:08 AM
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Is Comptech performing the ECU reflash or they need to send it to Hondata?
Old 05-30-2006 | 11:14 AM
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I wouldn't believe that Comptech would need to notify previous owners as the issue only occurs on some cars. When the issue exists it is really obvious, as the tensioner plate is right up against the supercharger pulley. If you tried starting the engine, it wouldn't be pretty as the bolts on the pulley would be shaving away the tensioner plate. So if you already have the supercharger installed and it is running fine, then I don't think you'd have a problem.

I'm not sure who is doing the reflash, but I'm assumming Comptech is now. They mentioned that if they recieve my ECU today, that they would ship it back out to me today. I'm assumming the only way they could do that is if they do the reflash in-house?
Old 05-30-2006 | 01:57 PM
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Old 06-01-2006 | 12:47 AM
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Here are the parts I received from Comptech to fix the issue with the supercharger pulley clearance.



Basically just consists of a new spacer nut, and small washer. I believe in the future they will be providing a larger "small" spacer for the idler pulley so that you won't need this extra washer. Here's a comparison of the old and new spacer nuts.



The new one is just slightly longer.
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