PrecyseStylez

Just read alittle bit about the new Civic Type R intake manifold (RRC).. seems like its something between a PRC and a PRB intake manifold. It doesnt have an IACV port like the RBC IMs have.. Im not sure if we have IACV ports since we are DBW but the Civic guys say its a direct bolt up.. Would this fit the TSX as well? The RSX guys cant use these RRC IMs though.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...r/IMG_2387.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...r/IMG_2388.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...r/IMG_2389.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...r/IMG_2391.jpg

CCColtsicehockey

nice find. from an aesthetics stand point though I gotta say I think the RBC manifold looks nice. not that that is much of a concern when trying to find the best manifold though.

PrecyseStylez

This RRC manifold made 7hp more than the RBC *side note

CarbonGray Earl

Where on the the torque curve is the power? I know the RBC's benefit is at mainly higher RPM range.

northbridge

if this manifold makes midrange power color me interested.

PrecyseStylez

These are the 2 compared.. the first dyno is the RBC and the second is the RRC. Same day dyno on the same car. The torque peaked at the end because of a sensor issue (thats what was told). These are from the 2007-08 Civic Si

RBC


RRC

A Mack

Will the RBC and RRC fit in the engine bay without any clearance issues in the TSX?

xjohnkdoex

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here's what looks like some white paper on the IM. translation?

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Since people were stealing/jacking my images, mooching my bandwidth and reposting my content WITHOUT my permission I had to change my url's and watermark my images. This is a site that I was led to. I also have an RRC throttle body adapter for K swaps and EP3/DC5 that need to retain IACV function.

I thought I'd share my views Between the 2006 Si manifold and the 2007 Type R manifold

^Something I forgot to add, the overall length or height is shorter on the RRC, so this means that the runners are shorter but in this you can see they are straighter too.

PrecyseStylez

ALP.. do you think it'll bolt up to a TSX or will we need to mod a few things? I have IACV dissabled thru Kpro.

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is this a TSX? Sorry to be naive but I was having a similar discussion on another forum and assumed we were talking about a car of that forum and we ended up talking about a kit car.

06+ TSX straight bolt on, older TSX straight bolt on too but you'd have to figure IACV function out or get one of my adapters. Sorry this may tread on advertisement, but the piece is a solution to the problem.

JTso

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There's no IACV on the TSX.

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not on the 2006+, but what about the older models?

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If the 2003-2005 TSX doesn't have IACV then what is the part circled in red for? Is the 03-05 manifold carried over from the Accord?

PrecyseStylez

03-05 TSX's can use 06+ TSX Intake Manifolds and or TB so i guess this may be an idication that ALL TSX's dont have IACV..

Tsx536

Johnny, so our 2004 TSX doesn't have a IACV valve correct?
Is there anything in the TSX throttle body similar to this that must be cleaned out?

The reason I ask is because my idle is a little rough and it seems like all of the RSX guys clean the IACV and it seems to really help or even fix their problems.

JTso

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No IACV on the early models either. DBW pretty much eliminated all that.

JTso

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The manifold is not the same as the Accords. The TSX has higher volume. Certain items never made it to production, such as the EGR valve and IACV. The plumbing is there in the manifold but they serve no purpose.

PrecyseStylez

JTso, do you think the gasket for the RCC will work on the TSX? Or will i need one fab'd to have it work like with the RBC?

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well if it's a straight bolt on for 06+ si and TSX it's a straight bolt on for 03-05 TSX too.

A Mack

This manifold should wake up that k24a2. This is another part added to the list of things to get when I get an 06.

alex.alm

How much more power would we gain on average with an upgraded intake manifold/throttle body?

PrecyseStylez

Nothing without kpro.. it may hurt more than help without it

Elite K Pro

with a tune,i think we should see the true gains with this manifold as we already have a good baseline

PrecyseStylez

I think im gonna run with the RBC instead.. I dont know if i wanna get the RRC and have it not bolt up right. How many different ports does it have over our RBB? And will the RRC IM gasket work with the TSX? We needed a modded gasket for the RBC so what will we need for the RRC?

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Isn't the stock manifold a 2 piece design, the manifold itself and the injector base?

You take off the intake manifold and injector base as 1 piece from the cylinder head and bolt on RRC or RBC, no modifications required, plug and play.

The injector base gasket for K24's (except K24A1) is the same as the intake manifold gasket K20Z3 and 07+ K20A

To what modification are you referring to? I don't see any problem.

PrecyseStylez

The TSX manifold has an integrated water port and the RSX-S manifold has a separate housing so we need an adapter plate for the RBC to work. So im not sure if the RRC has that same design.. and if we would need an adapter plate for it as well.

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the RBC AND the RRC both have the water port integrated into the manifold.

just look at the manifold flanges in the pic below.



You need an adapter plate to be able to use K20A2 type manifolds, its the K20A2 type cylinder heads that must cut off the integrated water port on the RRC and RBC.

The RBC and RRC manifolds are plug and play and require zero modifications to work, ZERO.

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here is the adapter you need to run a RSX-S or Integra Type R intake manifold
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HASPORT-K24A-TO-K...QQcmdZViewItem

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Stock K24 intake manifold set up








Stock RBC and RRC intake manifold set up


P2R intake manifold gasket for K24



Power rev racing K24 K20Z3 intake manifold gasket

PrecyseStylez

AVP.. you dont/cant make these gaskets?

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No, I don't but I am an authorized Power Rev Racing dealer.

PrecyseStylez

The link you posted for the adapter.. do you approve of that company? Or did you just find it? It says its from canada and it'll take 2 weeks to get here..

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My friend, I don't think we are on the same page. I don't know what link you are referring to, perhaps it's the ebay link to the Hasport K20A2 manifold adapter for K24 engines. You don't need the hasport manifold adapter unless you are trying to use a RSX Type S maniolfd or an Integra Type R manifold.

The RBC and RRC are neither of those.

You can order an RBC or an RRC manifold and bolt it onto your TSX without modification or adapters utilizing all existing hardware.

If you want extras you can order a Hondata or Power Rev Racing intake manifold gasket and/or a Power Rev Racing throttle body spacer with matching thermal throttle body
gaskets.

I carry everything I mention in here but I am trying to avoid advertising infringement and help out with tech support.

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What I am trying to say is if you want to run a RBC or an RRC all you need is the manifold itself and you can install it with no modifications or having to buy extra pieces. That is if we are talking about installing it on a TSX. The only piece you would have to get creative with is the air induction tube going from your throttle body to your air filter box.

PrecyseStylez

Uh.. am i reading this right?? You just posted a RBC and RRC diagram and circled both water ports that the RBB dont have. So those gaskets are different from the TSX IM gasket. And the TSX IM doesnt have the water port. Then you made a link to where we could get a moddified gasket for it to work. The RBC is the ITR IM.. Clear things up please

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The RBC is NOT the ITR manifold, I don't know where you got your information. The RBC came on the Accord Euro R and the 2006-2009 Civic Si.

The ITR manifold is the PRC which would require the use of this. The reason I posted this was because you said you needed some sort of adapter to make the RRC/RBC manifold to work and this isn't true




This is a diagram of the TSX intake manifold set up that is clearer than the Honda diagrams I posted. The K24A2/3/4 is a 2 piece design and Honda/Acura call the 2nd piece "injector base."



Here is what an RBC and RRC manifold look like after I have to cut the water port off so K24A1/K20A/2/3/Z1 cylinder head users can bolt it on.




So, in conclusion all a K24A2/TSX owner needs to bolt on a RBC or RRC manifold is the manifold and a creative way to connect their air induction tube to their air box.

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Which is a PRC or a PRB manifold

PrecyseStylez

I always thought the ITR and EuroR shared the same intake manifold.. my mistake.. Im a "crack baby" so dont mind me! I was even looking at the diagram wrong... geez! So the TSX does have the water port.. Thanks for setting me straight. RRC for the win! Its ordered tomorrow!

A Mack

Can't wait to see this installed in the bay man.