RedShiftChris

I think we'll be driving up 81 through VA around Jan 23rd or so. That's the best guess I can offer right now. I know Doug wants to spend more than a day on our car to make it really good because he's new to a twin screw setup (obviously). So we are not sure when we are leaving CA to come home yet.
Happy New Year everyone!
Chris at RedShift

rmpage

Cool, I was just asking out of curiousity, mainly because Hondata has thus far had no luck modulating big-bore injectors using the TSX ECU. Apparently the minimum pulse width still has so much duration that the engine floods out immediately. There was a thread about this recently, in which Doug posted that. edit: here

Also, I know Comptech runs modified Honda injectors for the high pressure CTSC kits for the RSX-S. I'm pretty sure they opted to bore the stockers rather than run third-party squirters because of impedance matching issues with the ECU's internal injector amplifiers.

Tsx536

^^ Yeah I remember that post, but I haven't mentioned it in hopes that Hondata has figured out a way to use upgraded injectors.

CCColtsicehockey

cool cant wait.

Sebo1

sorry if this has already been answered, but will this be available for the 06 AT tsx? if so, when?

i have the funds for purchase, let me know!

rza49311

iTrader: (1)

I don't think there is a timeline yet for AT's. On page 11 of this thread he says the test TSX is an 05 6spd (post #262) but if you keep reading to post #265 he says they will look into the AT's.

jiggaman

update?

moda_way

Since they are reliant upon Hondata for ECU tuning, we know where they are with the 05ATs.

godfather2

^ i wonder what's so difficult about cracking the code to my ecu?

moda_way

It has to do with that VIN being attached everywhere I thought. Either way, sux to have so many 05ATs being out of luck for the moment.

BigLizard

The setup they are talking about looks more promising than Comptech. I hope everything works out for you TSX guys. I'm jealous that the TSX charger will be done before the TL/CL charger.

Even with paying out a lil more money...we'll get what we paid for.

tsxdriver

man i think i gotta re-do my "to do list"

CCColtsicehockey

any updates.

jaehshim

jus chekced Redshift website.
deposits are going on as Chris mentioned, and i think stage 1 + 2 is available (Civic motor).
3 will be available in Feb.

btw, it's not Rotrex, it's twin screw s/c

jdepasqu2

I cant wait..........

Redshiftmotorsports

1. What type of supercharger does RedShift use? Answer: We use a twin-screw supercharger by a Swedish company called Lysholm. The name Lysholm® is a registered trademark and derives from the well-known engineer Alf Lysholm (1893 - 1973) who designed, developed and built the first helical-lobe compressor as chief engineer at SRM, Lysholm's licensor.

2. What is a twin-screw supercharger and why do we use them? Answer: A twin-screw supercharger is a positive displacement pump that compresses the air as it moves through the charger. This makes it similar to a roots charger in that it moves the same amount of air per rotation (unlike a centrifugal charger), and it is this trait that allows it to make boost at low revs (peak boost by 2200 rpm or so). However, the twin-screw charger is far superior to roots chargers at pumping air into an already-pressurized space because of their inherent internal compression design. So, while a roots charger is good up to 6 psi, beyond 6 psi, a twin-screw really shines. These twin-screw systems are incredibly flexible and have the ability to produce very high power, beyond what the stock engine can handle. In fact, on most K20 and K24 engines, these very systems can produce over 15 psi and make in excess of 400 whp on a built engine.

3. Will a supercharger system shorten the life of my engine? Answer: Not necessarily. The life of the engine is mostly determined by how you drive the car and how you maintain it (oil changes, etc). If you abuse any car, you will decrease it's life. We are very careful to ensure that our systems are developed with the same care that the manufacture used in developing the stock spec car. We control exhaust gas temps, keep safe air-fuel ratios, maintain proper ignition timing, and ensure safe knock sensor control of the engine. That said, the higher combustion pressures created to make more power will increase stress on any engine, no matter what means is used to make more power. Supercharger and turbo systems are no different.

4. What "Stage" is right for me. Answer: We offer 4 stages. Stage 1 is the first level of additional power, usually including a low boost level and no intercooler. Most times, when adding a small about of power, much of the engine controls and fuel supply can remain stock, and the price remains quite low. Stage 2 is the first intercooled level and offers a significant power increase with less stress on the engine for long engine life. Stage 3 is the highest level of power offered for stock engines, and it is suited for people who want the most power their engine has been proven to tolerate in normal testing. Stage 4 is a custom specified level of horsepower that usually results in the supercharger producing maximum boost and flow on a modified engine. The Lysholm 1600AX that comes standard in our kits can make approximately 450 hp at 16 psi on Honda K20 and K24 engines.

5. Does RedShift have a warrantee on it's products? Answer: Absolutely! We warrantee all RedShift products to be free from manufacturer's defects for 2 years from date of purchase. This warrantee is not transferable to a second purchaser. RedShift Motorsports does not, in any way, warrantee or guarantee the function or mechanical health of the vehicle on which any forced induction product is installed.

6. Why should I chose a RedShift Supercharger over another brand? Answer: Because chicks dig the power generated by RedShift Superchargers of course! Actually, the real reason is that our systems are engineered to outperform the competition in every way possible. You will have more usable low-rpm, mid-rpm, and high-rpm power than with any other supercharger. Roots charges will make less power everywhere! Centrifugal chargers might make a few % more power at redline, but the usable power under the curve (what really accelerates the car) will be higher on the RedShift Twin-Screw Superchargers. RedShift is dedicated to providing the most effective and efficient power solution for your dollar; so you can be sure that engineering, testing, customer support, and product quality is the best in the world.

chuson

According to your website, the first 3 system will be release on Jan 31, 2007??? Any pictures and dyno yet??? I'm really excited.

BTW: Make sure you have one ready for us 2005 5AT owner...... lol

TodaSi

So correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the 3rd supercharger for your system? Rotex, ASA, and now Lysholm?

Redshiftmotorsports

We will still be using the ASA's, after the development of the TWinscrew kits are done

PrecyseStylez

So your using 2 different chargers??

drunkenbuda

Please don't forget about us 05 AT.

godfather2

^

Acurasrule

Sorry if this has already been answered, but will this Kit work with an 06AT?

Thanks!

rmpage

They said they're working with Hondata for engine management. That means that the SC will only work with cars that Hondata can reflash. For now, that means every year and transmission type except 2005 5ATs. Sorry guys.

tsxdriver

so the intercooled kits will be a front mount intercooler? i sure hope so!! my front bumper seems to be lacking something behind it...

tsxdriver

never mind!! took a look at the website and it says front mount intercooler!!!! now that's what i'm talking about!!

chuson

^^^
If you get the Redshift 2nd stage SC w/ intercooler, that will be so bad ass. Fxxkin' shut those people mouth that keep asking why did you switch from Mugen to Phase, your new answer is, "Oh, I need a bigger spot to mount the intercooler".... lol

tsxdriver

hahaha! well i gotta see what i can do

rmpage

FMIC with a twin-screw? I'm not familiar with any Lysholm units that don't mount directly to the intake manifold, requiring an air-water intercooler placed within the manifold. Which Lysholm unit will you be using?

Redshiftmotorsports

That is the conventional thinking We are using a 1600ax. Normally they are mounted directly to the manifold. Our will not be, there just isn't room in the engine bay for that.
Our setup currently has the supercharger blowing down into a front mount and then back to a custom intake manifold that is much more like the stock manifold than the Comptech or Jackson/Moss one. Our FMIC design will work extremely well because it has a fairly small volume between the s/c and intake.

drunkenbuda

Say it ain't so....... .....I need an answer from Redshift.

rmpage

^^ just using deductive reasoning but I hope I'm wrong.

Man, this thing is sounding more and more awesome. Any speculation on what IAT will be based on previous experience? Twin-screws don't generate much heat to begin with, but after passing through an air-air FMIC the charge should be nice and chilly!

Redshiftmotorsports

Well front mounts bring the IAT to about 20-30 degree of ambient temperature.

05AT's We are trying to figure it out.

drunkenbuda

Thanks I'm dying for more power.......don't want to drop $800+ on Hondata for my 05AT.

Sebo1

so about 1 month left before we see this S/C ??

i have a 2006 AT, can i drive down there (from CT) and have it installed by you guys? about how much does labor cost?

im still curious about the stage 3.. will the AT be able to handle the power without major upgrades? on your website you list 350bhp, i assume thats about 320whp ?? i would think the car could handle the extra 100hp~ without much upgrading, or am i wrong?

last question: it was mentioned before that the cooler would be top mounted, has that now been changed to front mounted?

let me know as i am ready for purchase, thanks.

CCColtsicehockey

you would lose much more than 30hp from an auto tranny. you normally lose about 25-30% from an auto tranny so I would say 350bhp is about 250-260whp for an auto.

Sebo1

it's not that much... with i/h/e i'm putting about 185-190whp - 2006 TSX Auto dyno:



and i've done a few other mods since that last dyno.

Reach

Sebo1, Looks to me like you're putting down about 175whp uncorrected, maybe 170-172 SAE. That's much more in line with what to expect from your AT, even with mods. Look at how the highest part of your graph is well past the rev limiter. I don' t know what that is, but it can't be relevant.

I have done the full bolt-on upgrade path as well, no dyno recently but I know I'm not at 190.

TheDukeZip

Torque converter unlocking before gearshift?

Reach

Could be. On my dynos, that happens before redline, right around 7k, then I get the last few revs in. Either way, it represents an artificial blip upwards in HP, which then requires you to read the trendline at the top of the graph to get the real top HP.