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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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NST vs UR pulleys.

your opinion on how much of a difference should the PS pulley in the UR kit make?
is it worth the extra 80+$

I know UR is a proven product and their quality is great, and it seems that NST is probably at least on the same level in quality?

I think I remember correctly that both have shown a gain of somewhere around 7-10whp?

just searching for ways to safe a few $?
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Old May 20, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Well, if you want to save a few $$, go for the NST kit. Its a 2 pulley kit instead of a 3 pulley kit, and still has good gains. It is going to be impossible to do an objective dyno-result driven comparison of the two simply because we lack the data.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by h1coupe
your opinion on how much of a difference should the PS pulley in the UR kit make?
is it worth the extra 80+$

I know UR is a proven product and their quality is great, and it seems that NST is probably at least on the same level in quality?

I think I remember correctly that both have shown a gain of somewhere around 7-10whp?

just searching for ways to safe a few $?



think about it like this, i make the same gains as a UR set makes for less the money and one less pulley, once NST realeases the PS pulley if people show interest in NST it will be cheaper then UR and on top it will then give a little bit more gain the UR. go with NST you will not be sorry, i can promise you that. i have NST and they are GREAT espescially there customer service. you can purchase the NST pulleys here: http://www.nonstoptuning.com/pKitHonTSX.htm
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Old May 21, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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UR is tried and true. There are many members running their pulleys. You do get the P/S pulley in addition to the alternator and crank pulley. Most of the hp gains are in the crank. The accessory pulleys generally contribute to 1 hp more each. Also UR stocks these pulley sets and I stock them. From what I have seen the NST kits are custom made so they take some time.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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UR is tried and true. There are many members running their pulleys. You do get the P/S pulley in addition to the alternator and crank pulley. Most of the hp gains are in the crank. The accessory pulleys generally contribute to 1 hp more each. Also UR stocks these pulley sets and I stock them. From what I have seen the NST kits are custom made so they take some time.
You do not ship to Iceland.

and to be clear that 80$ more expensive in the US, means somewhere around 150-200$ more expensive for me. so every dollar I can save in the US is alot I can save in the end!


I am leaning towards the UR but am really tempted on the NST just for the 80$fact.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by h1coupe
You do not ship to Iceland.

and to be clear that 80$ more expensive in the US, means somewhere around 150-200$ more expensive for me. so every dollar I can save in the US is alot I can save in the end!


I am leaning towards the UR but am really tempted on the NST just for the 80$fact.
It's your car and $$$, so go ahead on what you like.

I'm very satisfy w/ the UR Pulleys that I got from Excelerate...
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Old May 21, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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I remember reading a post about the teeth issues. That the NST uses the key lock to rotate the pullys and the UR pullys actually has the teeths that needs to rotate. Has anyone had an issue with the NST pulleys and this situation?
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Old May 21, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KapVu
I remember reading a post about the teeth issues. That the NST uses the key lock to rotate the pullys and the UR pullys actually has the teeths that needs to rotate. Has anyone had an issue with the NST pulleys and this situation?
I thought that was a non issue.

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Old May 21, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by KapVu
I remember reading a post about the teeth issues. That the NST uses the key lock to rotate the pullys and the UR pullys actually has the teeths that needs to rotate. Has anyone had an issue with the NST pulleys and this situation?
UR pulleys dont have the "teeth" either.


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Old May 21, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Only stock has teeth, and they are not needed, as per JTso's post, so neither UR nor NST utilizes them.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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great, thanks for the help.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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I would have to suggest the NST pulleys as well. As others have said, 90% of the gains are from the crank pulley, the other pulleys will provide a little bit of weight reduction which leads to a little bit better response.

Myself and my friends have been using the NST stuff on our cars over the past few years and they have always performed very well. They are also very open to building custom products and offering more products if the community supports them and uses their products. FYI, they started with one crank pulley for the Scion tC a few years ago, now they offer over ten different pulley combinations for the tC!

NST FTW
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Old May 21, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I noticed that NST has 2 "sets" of pulleys. 1. Just the crank pulley. 2. Crank and alternator pulleys.

If I have a stock stereo system, is there any reason for me to get the alternator pulley as well? Or would only the crank pulley be good enough?

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Old May 21, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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If you plan to run the stock, or close to stock, stereo system you will be ok with just the NST crank pulley.

People who have aftermarket stereos, lights, or those who just want to have the most weight reduction and most response would benefit from getting both pulleys.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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^^ As I understand it, the NST alternator pulley is an overdrive pulley to (somewhat) make up for the amount the crank pulley is underdriving the accessory belt. This would be beneficial for optimum alternatory performance, ie: for those with muliple or large amps.

This thread is pretty good so far, but if it degrades into fanboyism for either side here its gonna get the . Just an early warning.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Ok, so with the NST pulley, could I still run subs, amps, and my pioneer D3? I think you can't do that with te NR correct?
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Old May 21, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KapVu
Ok, so with the NST pulley, could I still run subs, amps, and my pioneer D3? I think you can't do that with te NR correct?

yes you should be just fine
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Old May 21, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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You will be fine with either setup, the the UR is the only one that has been independently tested. I am using the UR set, and I have a sub, amp, PS2, and backup cam. I did a voltage test with all audio system, PS2, headlights, seat heaters, A/C on, and I still didn't drop below 13v. The actual readouts are in the UR thread.

A few of us all did true voltage tests on the UR set in JTso's install thread. No one has yet done one on the NST kit, but it is probably fine.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Call this a noob question and I think Reach somewhat answered it, the UR pulley set comes with the alternator pulley, does underdriving the alternator pulley cause any of the electrical systems in the car to give out early, or the lights dim under heavy acceleration etc.... Would the kit still be as beneficial performance wise without the alternator pulley? So just run the PS and Crank pulleys?
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Old May 22, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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The kit does not cause any dim lights or any adverse side effects at all. The TSX has an excellent electrical system and the very slight power loss driven by the pulley kit is negligible since there is still more than enough voltage to go around, even with the stock battery.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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The kit does not cause any dim lights or any adverse side effects at all. The TSX has an excellent electrical system and the very slight power loss driven by the pulley kit is negligible since there is still more than enough voltage to go around, even with the stock battery.

i have no problems with my NST pulleys, i have never tried UR but i have no problems
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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if i have an 06 auto tsx, will the ur or nst pulleys fit on my car?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by badstsx
if i have an 06 auto tsx, will the ur or nst pulleys fit on my car?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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i did a search, but couldn't find the exact number. BUT I BELIEVE THE UNORTHODOX PULLEYS ARE NOT RECOMMENDED FOR STEREO SYSTEMS ABOVE 800 WATTS OR SO. even so, i think you'll be fine as long as you have a capacitor
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by badstsx
if i have an 06 auto tsx, will the ur or nst pulleys fit on my car?

yes they will, i have an 06 TSX AUTO and i have the NST on my car, i do not regret them one bit.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by raheel616
think about it like this, i make the same gains as a UR set makes for less the money and one less pulley, once NST realeases the PS pulley if people show interest in NST it will be cheaper then UR and on top it will then give a little bit more gain the UR. go with NST you will not be sorry, i can promise you that. i have NST and they are GREAT espescially there customer service. you can purchase the NST pulleys here: http://www.nonstoptuning.com/pKitHonTSX.htm
there's a difference between giving good honest advice and marketing.. i think you just crossed that line.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by raheel616
i have no problems with my NST pulleys, i have never tried UR but i have no problems


You make it sound like you have some sort of "problem" with UR pulleys.

You sir, suck at advertising, and you're doing it in the wrong place.
I hope you're getting paid to kiss NST's ass
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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there's a difference between giving good honest advice and marketing.. i think you just crossed that line.
+1 sounds like he's trying to sell that NST pulleys everytime he posted a post.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hrj
+1 sounds like he's trying to sell that NST pulleys everytime he posted a post.
That's what he does on the "other" forum too... whatever, he might get paid to do it.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EuRTSX
You make it sound like you have some sort of "problem" with UR pulleys.

You sir, suck at advertising, and you're doing it in the wrong place.
I hope you're getting paid to kiss NST's ass


im sorry bro i dont advertise for no company unless it's paying me, im being honest with what i think i loved NST's product and customer service so i gave my input but if me saying anything seems like advertising i will stay out of the thread, and i was answering a question someone asked about having any problems with a 2006 and i just pretty much gave him an answer that i do not have any problems.
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