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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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New Ralco Pulley Kit

Anyone ever hear about these new Ralco Pulley Kits for our car? It comes with the crank, alt, and p/s pulleys. Looks nice, but i've never hear this company before. Figures, i find it on ebay, but just wondering what's up with it. It's pretty cheap at $200.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ralco...spagenameZWDVW
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Interesting. I think ill stick with the UR pulleys tho.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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ill stick with nonstoptuning pulleys


NST for the win
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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+2 for UR.
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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The UR's are the same material... 6061 Aluminum, correct? Anyone have the pully diameters to compare?
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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for anything engine related beyond just a simple intake I always stick with tried and true name brand, so NST or UR FTW! I have the UR pulleys, can't beat em.
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 02:34 AM
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hmm i got an email from the other website saying ultrarev was selling these also.. =X
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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I may have gotten a similar e-mail...

In the eBay auction, the seller's name is ultrarevparts
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Does anyone have weight/diameter/material comparison info?

Brand name and anodizing color aside, I think these are all doing a similar thing. The NST's seems to keep the power to the alternator by offsetting the underdriven crank with an overdriven alternator pulley. That might be better for must of us using our TSX's as daily drivers...
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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might be good looking into to. find out the material of the kits and the weights. if they are the same I'd say run with them.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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That company is garbage. All they do is take someone else's product and try to copy but do a poor job. I bought one of their short shifter kits for a customer's car and I had to spend an hour machining the parts to get them to fit. Don't waste your money or risk the life of your engine for a poorly machined part. Crank pulleys need to be balanced properly.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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^^ awesome post.
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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NOTE: Just 2 minutes before posting this (above) Excelerate posted this:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=20

...complaining about internet hearsay?

How is it fair to Ralco to imply that their crank pulleys may not be balanced properly and risk the life of your engine because you machined a short shifter? How long ago was that? How do you know all they do is copy?

Is there any relationship between these two statements?

Excelerate called Ralco garbage.
Excelerate sells a competing product.
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by feuss2
NOTE: Just 2 minutes before posting this (above) Excelerate posted this:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=20

...complaining about internet hearsay?

How is it fair to Ralco to imply that their crank pulleys may not be balanced properly and risk the life of your engine because you machined a short shifter? How long ago was that? How do you know all they do is copy?

Is there any relationship between these two statements?

Excelerate called Ralco garbage.
Excelerate sells a competing product.
You really are trying to start sh!t over the whole pulley thing lately aren't you?

Excelerate said that his experience with Ralco products, as in the short shifter, was poor because they couldn't even get a simple short shifter to fit right. What makes anyone (besides you) think that Ralco would put even a halfway decent effort into making their pulleys better than their short shifter? Companies are a reflection of their poorest product, to those that have used them. So, Josh was saying he dislikes Ralco because his experience(s?) with them have been poor.

I know MANY parts guys like Josh who would recommend or not recommend a part based on their experience with them. Why put your reputation on the line for a customer who wants a shoddy product and then would be the first one to badmouth you for selling it to them in the first place? Frankly I stray away from eBay and other non-personal parts sales sites for this reason - the personal experience of parts guys who make earn their living on reputation and knowledge... (not some Dinan marketing article like you seem to adhere to)
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by curls
You really are trying to start sh!t over the whole pulley thing lately aren't you?

Excelerate said that his experience with Ralco products, as in the short shifter, was poor because they couldn't even get a simple short shifter to fit right. What makes anyone (besides you) think that Ralco would put even a halfway decent effort into making their pulleys better than their short shifter? Companies are a reflection of their poorest product, to those that have used them. So, Josh was saying he dislikes Ralco because his experience(s?) with them have been poor.

I know MANY parts guys like Josh who would recommend or not recommend a part based on their experience with them. Why put your reputation on the line for a customer who wants a shoddy product and then would be the first one to badmouth you for selling it to them in the first place? Frankly I stray away from eBay and other non-personal parts sales sites for this reason - the personal experience of parts guys who make earn their living on reputation and knowledge... (not some Dinan marketing article like you seem to adhere to)
The answer to your first question is no.

There is a chance that the short shifter in question was really for a different vehicle and was mislabeled. If he or his customer made any efforts to resolve the issues with Ralco, those details were not mentioned. All we know from the information he gave us is the part didn't fit so he machined it until it did. In most cases, people try to resolve the issues with the reseller and/or manufacturer. Modifying parts you're not happy with, installing them, then making seemingly unfounded blanket statements about a company is not the way most people deal with these issues.

I have had (and resolved) issues with two Comptech products. I have not made a determination in either case that the company was garbage or posted such non-sense on a public forum. Rather, I am considering buying a Comptech header. No aftermarket company can be first to market with everything. That does not necessarily mean that they are copying other products when the release something.

If you manufacture, there's a chance of shipping something outside your normal qa standards. If you're a reseller or buyer, you could be the unlucky person who sells a bad unit or receives one. It just happens.

If you are someone people trust on a forum and an official vendor, then you have a responsibility to say things which are factual and be able to back them up. Especially when you complain about hearsay in other threads. In this case, if you are going to imply that another manufacturers products are sub-standard, then be prepared to substantiate the claim. If he hasn't spun both at 10,000rpm and measured how well each were balanced, then I see no reason for him to present his speculations as if they were fact...
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by feuss2
NOTE: Just 2 minutes before posting this (above) Excelerate posted this:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=20

...complaining about internet hearsay?

How is it fair to Ralco to imply that their crank pulleys may not be balanced properly and risk the life of your engine because you machined a short shifter? How long ago was that? How do you know all they do is copy?

Is there any relationship between these two statements?

Excelerate called Ralco garbage.
Excelerate sells a competing product.
Internet hearsay is what you posted. The kind of thing where your mother's brother's sister's cousin's boyfriend installed a pulley and the engine blew up.

Experience is what I posted. If they can't machine a short shifter properly then how well do you think they can machine a pulley? I tried the product; have you? And when I called UltraRev (the distributor for Ralco) about the lack of instructions and missing pieces they said to look at the B&M site for instructions b/c it's the same thing so put 2 and 2 together and you will understand why it's a copy of other companies' products. It is companies like Ralco that destroy the aftermarket b/c all they can do is copy parts, not innovate.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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...so I'm guessing no hope for Ralco?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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we still have no info on how well they are balanced compared to UR
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by feuss2
we still have no info on how well they are balanced compared to UR
here here
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Well, UR's pulleys are CNC machined and 0 gram balanced, which is better than most of the OE pulleys they replace. So that is UR's info.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Does anyone know how Ralco compares?
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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ralcos

how do these pulleys measure up? also, does anyone know if you need to purchase a new belt with the ralco RZ pulley kit?
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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I think in conclusion, we have decided to generally stay away due to negative experiences from Excelerate. I trust his decisions. We did have one guy on the forum who have used these pulleys for a while without any problems, he didn't say anything about belt changes from what I remember.

It is a exact replica of the UR SS, and I don't think a belt change isn't absolutely necessary with those...sooo...
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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I have the UR SS pulleys. You don't have to change the belt, but if you want it to fit like the stock one did before, you'll need the belt for a CR-V. It's a tad shorter and makes it all fit perfectly again.
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