Lookie Fram Sure Drain
#1
Lookie Fram Sure Drain
I have already bought a fram sure drain but have not installed it yet. I talked to the service dept. guy today and he didn't reccomend it because he didn't think that the sure drain would work well over time. He said that fram wouldn't warranty anything that happens to the car should the drain fail and he started talking about the possibility of needing a new drain pan. He also started yaking about how he's used crush washers for 12 years and never had a problem... Like duh! It's a freaking washer! What's it gonna do, ya know? Oh, he also asked my why I would use synthetic oil. I told him some of you guys have put that on your car and said that the TSX performed better and he was like, uh..ok.
So for those of you that have sure drain on your car, have you experienced any problems? I would like to know before I put it on at my first oil change. I'd like to avoid any costly repairs later down the road. Thanks.
I would really like to use the sure drain, but the service guy stole my thunder. So sure drain yes or no?
So for those of you that have sure drain on your car, have you experienced any problems? I would like to know before I put it on at my first oil change. I'd like to avoid any costly repairs later down the road. Thanks.
I would really like to use the sure drain, but the service guy stole my thunder. So sure drain yes or no?
#2
time for you to visit a new stealership. i had a sure drain since it came out on my civic and had no problems with it. my bro has the fumoto drain plug on his wrx since he got it eight months ago, no problems...
#3
Many cars have a magnetic drain plug that will catch fine metal fragments floating in the oil. I don't know if the TSX's is magnetic but I'll find out in a couple weeks when I change the oil. In any event, this magnetic plug is good to examine as it will tell you if you're experiencing any premature engine wear.
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#12
Like this: http://www.fumotovalve.com/
#14
Originally Posted by txathlete
I have already bought a fram sure drain but have not installed it yet. I talked to the service dept. guy today and he didn't reccomend it because he didn't think that the sure drain would work well over time. He said that fram wouldn't warranty anything that happens to the car should the drain fail and he started talking about the possibility of needing a new drain pan. He also started yaking about how he's used crush washers for 12 years and never had a problem... Like duh! It's a freaking washer! What's it gonna do, ya know? Oh, he also asked my why I would use synthetic oil. I told him some of you guys have put that on your car and said that the TSX performed better and he was like, uh..ok.
So for those of you that have sure drain on your car, have you experienced any problems? I would like to know before I put it on at my first oil change. I'd like to avoid any costly repairs later down the road. Thanks.
I would really like to use the sure drain, but the service guy stole my thunder. So sure drain yes or no?
So for those of you that have sure drain on your car, have you experienced any problems? I would like to know before I put it on at my first oil change. I'd like to avoid any costly repairs later down the road. Thanks.
I would really like to use the sure drain, but the service guy stole my thunder. So sure drain yes or no?
#16
Originally Posted by biker
And someone's putting this on to make it easier for the stealer to change the oil. What kind of sense does that make?
it's less hassle of cleaning your garage/driveway when performing oil changes and too lazy to keep replacing the crush washer.
#17
Originally Posted by mg7726
no biker, people who put this on (like myself) usually change their own oil.
it's less hassle of cleaning your garage/driveway when performing oil changes and too lazy to keep replacing the crush washer.
it's less hassle of cleaning your garage/driveway when performing oil changes and too lazy to keep replacing the crush washer.
#18
The fram is a valve. The valve opens when you attach the drain hose, sort of like a tire valve opens when you attach the air hose. That other valve is manually opened by hand but I guess you have to supply your own hose.
#19
Originally Posted by txathlete
I have already bought a fram sure drain but have not installed it yet. I talked to the service dept. guy today and he didn't reccomend it because he didn't think that the sure drain would work well over time. He said that fram wouldn't warranty anything that happens to the car should the drain fail and he started talking about the possibility of needing a new drain pan. He also started yaking about how he's used crush washers for 12 years and never had a problem... Like duh! It's a freaking washer! What's it gonna do, ya know? Oh, he also asked my why I would use synthetic oil. I told him some of you guys have put that on your car and said that the TSX performed better and he was like, uh..ok.
So for those of you that have sure drain on your car, have you experienced any problems? I would like to know before I put it on at my first oil change. I'd like to avoid any costly repairs later down the road. Thanks.
I would really like to use the sure drain, but the service guy stole my thunder. So sure drain yes or no?
So for those of you that have sure drain on your car, have you experienced any problems? I would like to know before I put it on at my first oil change. I'd like to avoid any costly repairs later down the road. Thanks.
I would really like to use the sure drain, but the service guy stole my thunder. So sure drain yes or no?
#20
I've used the SureDrains in my Jeep and my civic as well with absolutely no problems. I can perform an oil change with absolutely no tools and in record time now because of it.
I think that Fram took valve failure into consideration when designing the sure drain for the valve itself is also protected and secured with a nice threaded cap so even if the valve did fail the cap would prevent the oil from leaking out of the engine.
Mine threaded into the oilpan fine and if it did fail, you could
1.) remove the sure drain & use the original drain plug or
2.) buy another sure drain because the threads are the same.
I think that Fram took valve failure into consideration when designing the sure drain for the valve itself is also protected and secured with a nice threaded cap so even if the valve did fail the cap would prevent the oil from leaking out of the engine.
Mine threaded into the oilpan fine and if it did fail, you could
1.) remove the sure drain & use the original drain plug or
2.) buy another sure drain because the threads are the same.
#21
The drain comes in different thread sizes but all hondas have the same size thread as far as I have seen. The size is P2. Look in the fram filter book at the parts store and they tell you what size to use for your car. It doesnt list the sure drain under the 04 TSX but I used the same size listed for the 04 accord. The drain works ok.. just screw on the hose and the oil starts coming out. No tools necessary. Its slower than if you took off the bolt. Takes about twice as long for the oil to come out but its easy and clean. Also someone mentioned the mobil 1 oil filter. The size is 110 not 105. 105 has the same thread and gasket size but the filter is much bigger.
#22
The SureDrain comes with a washer on it. Is that to be:
1. Used in addition to the Honda crush washer?
2. Used in place of the Honda crush washer?
3. Replaced by the Honda crush washer?
What have those who use the SureDrain done?
1. Used in addition to the Honda crush washer?
2. Used in place of the Honda crush washer?
3. Replaced by the Honda crush washer?
What have those who use the SureDrain done?
#23
Originally Posted by scheißterhöffer
The SureDrain comes with a washer on it. Is that to be:
1. Used in addition to the Honda crush washer?
2. Used in place of the Honda crush washer?
3. Replaced by the Honda crush washer?
What have those who use the SureDrain done?
1. Used in addition to the Honda crush washer?
2. Used in place of the Honda crush washer?
3. Replaced by the Honda crush washer?
What have those who use the SureDrain done?
Also, some general comments on the product: Although it is nice to not get dirty, and it is easier to just screw the hose on to the valve, it takes FOREVER to get the oil pan empty. I mean, seriously about 20-25 mins. I don't really care how long it takes since I just leave it and do something else, but that might not be an option for you. Just my
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