i never heard of them. have you?

IPS-K2 compatibility for use with K24A2 (TSX) confirmed. Piston to valve clearance @ 50 degrees VTC advance = 0.030". We suggest imposing max advance of 45 degrees through software. Clearances were taken using RSX-S VTC sprocket. TSX VTC sprocket has mechanical limitation of 25 degrees max advance.

http://intrinsicperformance.com/

 

what software. I thought there was no software available to tune with yet for the car. Maybe I am way off on this.

 

See Dzuy you done went and ordered hondata and next thing you know cams are out. HAHAHA. Oh well its cool I can't wait to see how much money all this is going to cost you =)

 

Motec or perhaps the K-Pro for the RSX.

 

But then you have to remove the whole DBW deal though, no?

 

I was thinking along the lines of an engine swap into the RSX but your idea would work too...

 

Yes it would all have to come out. Will motec work with DBW???? Or AEM for that matter?

 

so how much power or what advantage does this give us. I anything really when it comes to engines other than I want some more power. Any info I would appreciate and thanks in adavance

 

No you'd have to go full race like the K-Pro hack.

 

So is this what you were talking about waiting for?
Now Hondata, which appears to work with IPS, will use these cams, and make a new flash which will make the first useless since it has to be reprogrammed with a new flash. Long ass sentence, but hopefully it makes sense.
I guess that is what K-Pro does, allows you to tune it as new components are being added?

 

Exactly CMF..the Kpro is a programable ECU. You can use a laptop with a serial connector. You can then go in and change timing, Vtec switch over point, Fuel air ratio..everything that you want. And that way you can have your car tuned to your mods. That is why I am waiting. It will take them a while at least a year maybe longer before a Kpro comes out but I will wait and when it does I will have it. That way my car will be tuned to its exact modifications and will make the most power possible.

If you get the reflash and you don't have the same mods they built the reflash for you won't have the same results. You could possibly make less power or more. It depends. I will wait for the Kpro.

 

That's a moot point. B/C they offer HUGE discounts for upgrading from reflashes.
Case-in-point: If you buy the IPS-K2 cams and you're an existing hondata REFLASH owner, you get A FREE K-PRO upgrade with the purchase of the cams!

 

thing is there is no kpro ....not yet.

 

so what's the deal?

anyone heard of them?

guess who i'm calling tomorrow?

:troutslap

 

what happened to saving for a house? since hondata came out you're back on the downward sprial

 

haha.

i probably wont get cams anytime soon.

i already had money put aside from hondata.

are you goin to reflash?

:troutslap

 

won't run right with your reflash bro..

 

what makes you say that?

after all, they say that they have been working with hondata since the beginning.

my friend has an rsx-s and says that they're the rave over at clubrsx.

supposedly better than toda spec a cams.

 

your reflash isnt designed to work with those cams. If you had a falsh designed for them then yes. But you don't and you also don't have a Kpro so you wont run correctly. Might even lose power. And if the reflash has too much timing advacement then you could knock as well. Alot of factors there man. I would have waited on other flashes to come out if I were going to do all this. Oh wait I am waiting maybe you should too.

 

ips is a good and reputal company alot of clubrsx people are using them. a friend of mine is saving for these cams as well

 

I contacted them about the K24 compatibility, turns out it's only good for K24 swaps since we use DBW and there's no K-Pro for our ECU yet.

But there was quite a lot of talk about them on clubrsx.com, I think Edo was the guy who makes them?

 

See no kpro no cams...HONDATA READ THIS...MAKE A KPRO AND I WILL BUY YOU!!!!...(seems like this worked for Dzuy maybe will work for me.)

 

I already contacted the company a few days ago. They are currently working on their whole product line for the TSX and won't finish for a while.

As far as their front page saying IPS-K2 cams for the TSX, they only verified fitment of the cams in the head, no actual tuning for the k24a2

As for the cams, stoke is right, they're a waste of money if you don't have your engine tuned for it. Now here's the thing, I'm sure that when IPS puts the cams into production, I'm sure hondata won't be far behind with either a flash for the cams OR a k-pro.

Stay tuned guys, cuz the aftermarket for the TSX is gettin pretty damn exciting!

 

Sorry for the , but Stokeless, your font is not big enough, it should be:

MAKE A KPRO AND I WILL BUY YOU!!!!

 

Thanks Cobalt. Yup I bet Hondata has more up thier sleeve than they are willing to let on. And if not then someone else should be coming out with something as well. But a Kpro is my fantasy and Hondata if you are reading this IF YOU MAKE A kPRO FOR THE TSX I WILL BUY YOU!!!!!

 

stoke and cobalt are copy cats haha.

guess my cam dream is dead for now.

good, b/c that's alot of dough yo.

:troutslap

 

Well Dzuy I figured it worked to get you your stage 1 reflash..I want the ultimate so its my turn to bug them. =)

 

i think we should start a I AM WILL TO BUY K-PRO thread and have a petition like we did for the reflash. I myself will also upgrade to k-pro (if it comes out). I think that hondata knows there are a few people that are interested, but if we start a new thread and everyone that will/wants/thinks about buying k-pro will give hondata a better idea so how much demand there is for k-pro and hopefully they will answer our call.

as far as k-pro, I BELIEVE that the hardest part of the job is done, cracking the ecu, but it is a different story in getting a program that will allow a user to adjust informanton. Its one thing to have a professional mess with it, its another to have me and you play around with k-pro, there needs to be safe guards installed. that's whay my opinion is on the subject, but if hondata sees the demand i think they will answer. Plus , i think it will still be at least 6 months before k-pro even has a chance to come out.


as for the cams, they add a very nice gain on the RSX-S, of course with proper tuning. an rsx-s with i/race h/ e/ cams/ k-pro/ performance tires should be running about 13.6@105mph. I think and i read on hondata's site that the tsx would benifit greatly with cams, so we are in a waiting game now. when hondata makes k-pro companies will make cams, if a company makes cams hopefully hondata makes a refalsh, but who is willing to go first is the question......

 

funny that i posted info bout these cams like two weeks ago and nobody cared, but now that the reflashes are here its a hot topic

 

i didn't see it.

 

For what its worth, buy the time you install cams, and pay for tuning you already half-way towards the price of a supercharger. As acura wil honor your warintee if they install the CompT super, that would be a better way to go. If I altered my cam I would not have a leg to stand on if the motor went early.

 

comptech SC does not void warranty if installed by an authorized comptech dealer.

but 3500 is knida steep for me.

i want all motor.

i want a car that looks bad ass and is decently quick

a SC may be more than i'm looking for,

 

true, there is a piston kit avaible for our cars, as well as other cams. I was in the acura of seattle dealer and they had the Mugen TSX there, they also had a catilog that I have never seen that had everything for our car. SC, oil catch systems, quaff type diffs (400 bucks), etc. I had them, order the catilog and will post some of it once I recive it. I want all motor as well but that is a very expensive route. I think it would be hard to get over a 50hp gain without forced induction.

 

So it was the Mugen catalog???

 

That's crazy talk. 50 hp is not "hard to get" w/o fi. Once you get cams, high compression pistons, rods, ***K-PRO***, Ti Retainers, valves, upgraded fuel system....you'll have a nice all motor setup. I'm sure the motor would sound pretty damn menacing redlining around 9k!

 

No way could the TSX rev to 9K. But it would sound nuts. Don't forget the port and polished head as well....That would give a nice bump in power!

 

you should feel how it pulls at 7600 rpm hehe.

:troutslap

 

I don't doubt it. But 9K would be faster than an indy car piston speed. INSANE!!!

 

The engine upgrades you mention are 3-4k alone for just the parts, however you left out everything else that would be required to support those upgrades as well as items you would likely do since you have already ripped the motor down. F/I is a 4k solution that comes with a warrantee, all motor would start at 5k and quickly scale up, with no warrentee, not to mention the labor of building all motor which most of us would not have the tools/skills to build. I had once planned to go all motor in my accord and was quickly at 10k with parts/labor with no way to gauge how much power I would lay down. The TSX is a newer car with less aftermarket available thus most of the parts are more. Below is a brief run down of what it would take to build a quality all motor car. Many of these prices are based on the RSX as there is no TSX equivalent. While some of these parts are excessive such as the lighten flywheel, exhaust, header, etc. The reality is that if you are going to completely dismantle your car and have it out of action for the better part of 1-2 months you would likly do everything at once.. Thus all motor is only possible if you are finatualy successful or your daddy pays for everything.

Brief list of a true all motor setup:

- Cams: 1200 Parts Only
- Port/Polish with upgraded Ssteel Valves 1130 (JE Engine Dynamics, or KMS)
- Crain Cams, Valve Sprint&Ti Retainer Kit 500 (Option Auto Salon)
- Crower Connecting Rods 700 (Option Auto Salon)
- Aries Pistons, Wrist Pins, etc 800-1200 (ariaspistons)
OR Custom JUN Stroker Kit for 4k
- Upgrade your timming belt 130
- Upgrade your Head Gasket 200 (Toda)
- Better Throttle Body 500 (Spoon)
- Custom Intake Mnanfold 500 (If available)
- Injecters and a Rail 800 (APEX)
- Lightend Crank 1000 (Gotta find one)
- Misc Parts 600
- AEM Standalone
(K-Pro is not avaible) 1600
- AEM CDI Ignition 300
- Better Clutch 500 (ACT)
- Flywheel 500 (CompTech)
- Exhaust 900 (CompTech)
- Header 300 (DC Sports)
- Now you need LSD 1400 (Quaffe

Rough Total: 13260
Engine Build
30h's * average shop rate of 80/hr 2400

Now you gotta Tune It: 600

Out the Door: $16260


Zas

 

if i get i get cams,
i plan to change the valve springs and get titanium retainers