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I will PM Josh (Excelerate) and tell him to contact you

 

I installed my ETD, I grinded part of the bracket to allow more clearance between the pulley and the bracket. Yes I have UR Pulleys

I did notice minor cabin vibration, nothing major.

 

After looking again this morning, I'm pretty confident the metal-on-metal noise I'm hearing is the ETD bracket rubbing... whatever I circled in my picture below. I can see where the metal on the ETD bracket is being physically rubbed down by that other part.

What can I do about this given that I do not have access to a machine shop of any kind? Can I buy sandpaper at Home Depot and try sand the bracket back a bit by hand? This sucks, I love the smooth shifting but HATE knowing that I have metal grinding on metal every time I give it gas.

 

Exactly. You have just connected the engine to the chassis. The vibration of the engine and movement before is now being transferred and dampened partially through this Engine Torque Damper. You can adjust the damping of the damper though and this will increase or decrease the vibrations. You can lessen the effect of the damper by softening the damper. There are instructions on how to do this included with the ETD. If you set it softer you won't notice it really at idle or when the A/C turns on. The firmer the damper the less movement/vibration it is going to dampen or absorb and therefore the more direct you will feel with the movement/vibration of the engine b/c it is now connected to the chassis.

 

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I had the same issue, I tied the black metal tubes on top of the part you are describing with black small zip ties to the metal ac lines running along the passenger fender. If you pull the assembly towards the passenger fender you will notice more clearance between that and the ETD bracket. Good luck

 

Hey, thanks for the idea. I'm presently sanding down the edge of the bracket (hit up Home Depot and picked up a variety of sand papers intended for use on metal). It's tiring and is taking a long time. If this doesn't end up working I'm definitely going to pick up some zip-ties. Ghetto, but if it works, it works!

 

anyone else having this rubbing issue??

 

The sanding was just the ticket, apparently. The rubbing is 90% gone. I still hear a little bit of the noise, but it's vastly reduced. Not sure if I feel like pulling the bracket out a third time to do more sanding. Either way, glad I got that taken care of, although it frustrates me to a degree that fitment was off straight from Ingalls.

 

Sanding metal? I would just take a file to it.

 

So I found an issue...the engine bracket is too high and is punching into the undercarriage of the hood. Over time it looks like it will eventually puncture this or even damage the ETD if you open and close your hood enough:




anyone else experiencing this? any way to fix this?

 

What the... I'll take a look tomorrow morning before work. If this isn't an isolated incident that's just ridiculous.

 

I am also experiencing that ^^. Although yours looks more severe then mine. It looks like it just punctured the insulation, shouldn't go through the hood. I hope not at least.

I will probably remove the bracket and grind down as much as possible, along with grinding down more area for the pulley clearance

 

Beware of grinding too much off the top of the bracket though, given its close proximity to the Stiffy mounting hole. You wouldn't want to weaken that point.

 

Here is a silly question, but someone clear it up for me! So my stiffy came today WOOT! very excited, but I am reading through the instructions and I am confused about the rubber o-rings. My question is: do the the o-rings go on both mounts? or just on either side of the strut mount????

 

i haven't installed mine yet, but i'm more concerned with the grinding and the undercarriage of the hood.

why are there fitment issues if the the application is for the TSX? is there any way for ingalls to correct this (ie. new bracket)?

 

Mine just got delivered and I am installing it this weekend (I have an 04) so I'll report back and figure out if I need to grind down anything...

Thanks guys.

 

Just when I thought I was done modding for quite a while...they pull me back in! This sounds like a mod I want to try, I definitely like the idea of smoother and more connected-feeling shifts. I don't do any heavy-duty wheel hopping launches.

Going to monitor the fitment issues, are they only on a couple cars or are most of you having clearance issues with hood and/or other parts under the hood?

 

I didn't get an ETD but something I just thought about (for those with fitment issues) would be to report what year your car is, it may be exclusive to a certain year and it may not but I thought it was worth mentioning.

 

04 6mt...

 

was wondering the same thing myself. is there more clearance in the 06/07's vs. the 04/05's? or the same issues?

 

05 6MT w/ UR pulleys

 

I thought everything was the same with the hood, except the little trim piece

 

Looks like the same fitment issues regardless of year since they've been reported on an 07 (CGTSX07) and a 04 (TSX2345).

I think I'm going to hold off on installing this thing until a resolution is reached...

 

agreed. i'm surprised there is such a glaring fitment issue with this.

 

Well, my rubber washers cracked and fell off. I'm really not too enthused about this so far.

I'm going to search for some thicker rubber washers to isolate the ETD itself, and soften it. I checked it just now and I don't see any threads between the two nuts to the side of the ETD, so I do think I accidentally tightened the dampening nuts too much so its just too stiff. That could explain my vibrations.

 

^ if you could post updated pics, that would be great. i think i'm gonna hold off on the install as well

 

Are you talking about the o-ring between the two lock nuts? If so, I would replace that with a thin metal spring lock washer instead. Note: don't use split lock washers as those washers have too much tension.

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how many people adjusted the ETD before they installed it? It comes factory with 14mm for the gap, you can't go below 10mm without damage which according to the instructions would be very stiff. 15mm is the softest you can go without damaging the ETD. As far as the hood liner is concerned, has anyone just cut a piece of it out and/or verified whether or not it's just the liner in question, or is the hood actually hitting it???

 

I think the point is we shouldn't be having to modify the bracket or replace parts days after receiving a brand new item, period. Ingalls rear camber kit is great but this ETD doesn't seem properly tested.

I left my ETD at factory stiffness (since I do not own the appropriate wrenches to adjust it anyway) which according to the instructions is 14mm, a very reasonable adjustment (definitely not overly tight).

 

I would agree with you completely...doesn't seem like there was much testing done on this at all.

 

looking at the OP's pics on pages 1 and 4 it seems as though he doesn't have the clearance issues that many of you are facing? It seems to clear that cylinder looking thing (has to do with the a/c??) just fine, however; he hasn't posted anything in a while, it would be interesting to know if his mount is rubbing on his hood liner or if he has any issues. Maybe the production brackets were a little bit off some how from his??? Or there is just some fine tuning with moving the brackets a tad bit side to side when torquing down the bolts.

I'll give this install a shot tomorrow some time.

 

I checked when I got home just now - my ETD bracket IS protruding the hood liner.

 

Is it hitting the metal of the hood? By chance denting the hood if it's open and closed hard enough and often enough?

 

I emailed Ingalls this morning and still no response....not happy about this

 

Not that I can tell, but without removing the lining, it's hard to be certain. Regardless, I am closing the hood gingerly now.

I hope Ingalls has something to say. I like the part and its effects, for sure - but the fitment leaves a lot to be desired, and it's not an isolated incident - there are three or four different cases of issues now in this thread alone, spanning different years of TSX's.

 

its just a liner.. its not actually hitting the hood of the car! thats bracket is big and sterdy so if it is hitting the hood for one you would hear it! and 2, you would see it..

 

wow what a crappy job they did with testing this product. very dissapointing news developing in this thread.

 

got my etd today and just installed it about 20 minutes ago. installation was very easy. i do notice some vibration, but more like something hitting each other. i'm thinking it might be the a/c line because one of the lines is hitting the nut thats hold the stiffy to the chassis bracket. went out for a quick 5 minute run and felt a good difference. shifting is a lot smoother and the car just seems to stay put and not jump every time i shift at a high rpm. i'm also getting that indent in my hood like everyone else is. doesn't bother me to much though. going to go back tomorrow and see if i can zip tie the a/c lines so they don't touch the nut.