Twisteds2k

I turned in my ECU to one of the so called 'Hondata dealers' in Oregon. I thought I would get it back by Wednesday with the overnight shipping. Remember I pay for the Hondata dealer to ship overnight to Hondata and also to have it shipped overnight back to the dealer. Why is Hondata choose to do it this way instead of shipping it directly to the consumer? I don't know. Anyways, I was told today that it would take until Friday to get my ECU back. WTF? I thought it takes Hondata a day to flash the ECU, I'm I correct? Anyways, I will not do this again. Taking the car apart and sending away the part. To those who consider doing the Hondata reflash please aware that my experience could happen to you. BTW, if you're living in Oregon I wouldn't go to any of the HOndata dealers either. They suck.

Memphis Rheins

What I was told you should do is send it to one of the Dealers in California... I forget which one, but its about 5 minutes down the street from Hondata Headquarters... Apparently that is the fastest way to get it done

Sorry its taking so long for you to get your ECU back... and im sure its stressfull as hell having the most important part of your car being shipped all over the country... but My money would be on you being pretty damn happy with the results the first time you hit that lowered Vtec point....

S14 n Tsx

sorry to hear that but once you get your ECU back...You are going to love it.

moda_way

I used a place that gave me either a label that ships directly to Hondata or I get to ship to Hondata myself. So I didn't have to ship to anyone but Hondata and they shipped back to me. It took exactly 3 days. 1 day to ship to them, 1 day for them to reflash and put back into the FedEx system. Next day I get it. I highly recommend this place as it is the least expensive one as well as great service. They are actually thinking of lowering their price for the reflash even more.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

When I got my 04 reflashed, I went through Epic Motoring in Torrance, which is literally down the street from Hondata's facility. Their turnaround time was exactly as I expected. And from the experiences that other people had, they ship directly to Hondata and the turnaround was exactly 3 days as well. Don't know what happened with your ECU.

slobeatz

I wouldn't blame it on Hondata, I'd blame it on the dealer. I live on the east coast and had my ECU back in 3 days as well.

jlukja

I think its the dealer's arrangements that sucked.

vishnus11

Is the reflash being done to your S2k or TSX? If its the S2k, then let me know what you think after the reflash - I've got an 06 and have been contemplating it. I've read a lot of positive reviews here on the TSX forums regarding their Hondata flashs' and hoping that the S2k version is just as good.

Twisteds2k

I wouldn't do the reflash for your s2k. It's not worth it. I would have gotten the gears instead. BTW, I'm doing the reflash for my TSX.

TSX 3Pedal

I took my car down to Epic for the reflash and my turn around time was 20 minutes...

But yea...Epic is basically down the street from Hondata.

Twisteds2k

Here is the update from HOndata. They just received my ECU today. WTF? I gave it to the Hondata dealer on Monday. I don't understand why it took them that long to get it to HOndata. Remember, I paid for it to be shipped overnight. Thumb down for HOrsepower Freaks in Oregon.

hahaitzskippy

anyone else from oregan with comments?

ILoveMyHonda

Sorry........
So whats the deal with the reflash for '05's im curious. There is none at all for '05? And if so would it just take a swap from an 04 into an 05 to cure it?

Tsx536

^^ If you have an 05AT, I don't think there is any new news.

Yeah, I definitely blame it on the dealer. They probably lagged on shipping and might not have even ordered overnight shipping. I would call Hondata and make sure that your ECU is being shipped back via overnight shipping. Hopefully that performance shop didn't cheap out on that too.

Brandon24pdx

so because its taking a few days longer than expected you're saying you never should have done it at all? Sheesh.

peter_bigblock

Did you ask Horsepower Freaks about the delay? You might contact Hondata and ask it the ECU was overnighted to them yesterday. If not, you got scammed for the shipping; if so, your dealer dropped the ball. Either way, you ought to have some $$ coming back for paying for one thing and getting another.

Why does Hondata use this dealer setup anyway? In my case, the dealer just sent me couple UPS labels. That could be done by Hondata online, what's the point of doing it through a dealer? I'm sure the dealer's getting a cut from the $595 and, in this case, having some negative impact on Hondata's business. What do they have to gain from this arrangement?

Newplay1

any pics of yoru S2k? your avatar makes me drool...

Brandon24pdx

I live in Portland myself. There's definitely better places to take your business.

Twisteds2k

Here is an email from the dealer. I'm so dissapointed from this experience.

Kelvin,

It looks like there was a mix up in the shipping department. This went
out yesterday, they received it today. Hondata told me we will have it
by Friday.

When you come in to pickup the ECU I will credit you for some of the
shipping.

If you have any questions please give me a call or email.

Thanks,




-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:55 AM

Subject: FW: Re: TSX Hondata reflash



-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:22 AM

Subject: FW: Re: TSX Hondata reflash

Hi Mike, I just checked with Hondata and they said that they just
received
the ECU today. Can you tell me what's going on here? I paid for it
shipped
overnight to Hondata. This was supposed to be done on Monday. Why did it

take 3 days to get to HOndata? Please explain.


>From: "sales" <sales@hondata.com>
>Subject: Re: TSX Hondata reflash
>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:02:16 -0700
>
>The ecu was received today and will is being shipped back to your
dealer.
>If you have any questions about this, you will have to contact your
dealer.

Twisteds2k

there were only 2 Hondata dealers in oregon. I didn't know much about the other place and this place seems to be a bit more popular. But I guess this is the last time I will ever do business with them.

jiggaman

you'll be happy once u get the reflash put in. its definately worth it with tsx

jlukja

You had to wait a while for yours too, didn't you?

CJams

It sucks that you have to wait so long, but it looks as if you can prove that your ecu was not shipped over night, so just get a refund for the overnight part. I would for sure because that would piss me off. I hate paying for services not performed.

lancer

instead of just getting refunded SOME of the shipping you should be refunded ALL of the shipping since they messed up and didnt even inform you of it until you contacted them about it.

Twisteds2k

Well, I finally got my ECU back today after calling them several times. When I came to the office the guy that was helping me didn't even know about the screw up and almost charged me the full price. I told him what happened and that I was expecting a partial refund in my shipping. The guy told me that he didn't have the authority to do it and he had to contact the manager You would think after what happened to my shipment they would at least either leave a note about the shipping discount or have the guy who I talked to on the phone help me finalize the transaction. Anyways, I got the ECU back home and spent another 30 minutes putting everything back in place. I also removed the resonator in the process. After 20 minutes of driving I could feel the car definitely pulled a lot harder than before. It's also a bit louder I guess due to the missing resonator For some reason, I only got 15.5 mpg vs 21.5 before. I hope this is temporarily. Unless I have to do other calibration??Does anyone know? Overall, I'm still pissed off at the whole thing.

Twisteds2k

never mind. Forgot to hit the reset button

Alin10123

You mean the gas mileage got better? or the ECU definately made the car pull faster?

Twisteds2k

the gas mileage got worse but the car did pull harder than before

Memphis Rheins

Have you ever been happy?

drunkenbuda

thats some crappy MPG.

waTSX

Almost too crappy to be true

alkie4life

I have been considering the Hondata reflash for a while. What is the average change in MPG? Worse? Better? With gas the way it is I can't afford 15 MPG...

aaronng

Are you running 91 or 93 octane at the moment? Make sure you use only 93 now that you have Hondata.

jpt

if you've only had the reflash for a day it's more likely that the crappy average mpg over a very short time is b/c you did several power runs. on the highway you shouldn't notice much if any difference as the reflash doesn't change anything for part throttle conditions.

Twisteds2k

I wish we had 93 octane here. The most we can get here is 91, at least in Oregon. I did a run today in the freeway, 70mph for 30 minutes. The mpg was 24.5 and it stayed at that number even when I hit the city, stop and go traffic. I think the gauge is messed up. I'll give it a week and see how it goes.

pipe

I'm confised... You did what is clearly a performance mod and your bitching about MPG? If you are really worried about gas mileage you should have purchased a Prius.

Oh and another thing, I feel sorry for Horsepower Freaks for having to deal with you.

aaronng

The Hondata for our australian version of the TSX requires 93 octane. And the dyno results from hondata is similar to that of the hondata'd TSX. So I'd say you need 93 octane. Go and find 93 and give it a go to see if it improves your mileage.

TSXdawg

Of course when I first got it, my fuel economy tanked because I kept revving the engine to feel the new VTEC point. However, after several tankfuls of gasoline, I have found that my fuel economy to actually be better than before.

Twisteds2k

Learn to spell you stupid tool

waTSX

I haven't noticed any change. It's like most mods...if you put your foot into it all the time, your MPG will suffer. The reflash in and of itself isn't going to negatively affect you fuel economy. What it does is make the car more fun to drive, hence you goose it more, hence your MPG may suffer