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05-11-2007, 01:33 PM
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I am not saying it's not legit
but the dyno itself produce higher # than mustang and dynojet...
So whatever you want to call it....it has higher # than what we normally see...
as you can see from the link I post...
it was hondata + icebox + comptech header on MT
I don't think any of us would get to 208whp with those mod on dynoject or mustang dyno.
I thought it was crank dyno before....well now we know it's not. So all I can say it's an overated wheel dyno...
but the dyno itself produce higher # than mustang and dynojet...
So whatever you want to call it....it has higher # than what we normally see...
as you can see from the link I post...
it was hondata + icebox + comptech header on MT
I don't think any of us would get to 208whp with those mod on dynoject or mustang dyno.
I thought it was crank dyno before....well now we know it's not. So all I can say it's an overated wheel dyno...
05-11-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Dynapack has slightly higher numbers but I did get 207 whp on a Dynojet with Hondata and basic bolt-ons. So it's not that hard to get 208.
I thought you got 207 with "all" the bolt on
not just intake + header + hondata...
I remember Moda_way got like 190whp with full comptech i/h/e + hondata
All I am saying it's that when we say wheel...we suspect about 15% loss
But dynopack's # is about 10% loss.....
05-11-2007, 02:52 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...3&page=2&pp=25
this is ur run....
without hondata run
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15511
wats the point to put me down when I was just pointing out dynapack produce higher #
this is ur run....
without hondata run
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15511
wats the point to put me down when I was just pointing out dynapack produce higher #
05-11-2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kyotousa
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...3&page=2&pp=25
this is ur run....
without hondata run
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15511
wats the point to put me down when I was just pointing out dynapack produce higher #
this is ur run....
without hondata run
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15511
wats the point to put me down when I was just pointing out dynapack produce higher #
05-11-2007, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
No one is putting you down. Most people already know dynapack produces higher numbers. I even mention that at the beginning of my post. The most important thing is the difference of the dyno runs on the same dyno, not what the numbers are comparing to a total different dyno setup. The numbers are vaild if the testing is done on the same dyno. If you look at the Hondata results on a dynapack and my Hondata reflash results on a dynojet, the actual numbers are different, but the gains from the same mod are pretty much the same with approx 30hp and 25tq gain at 6000 rpm.
anyway
it will be different....Lets say if dynapack's # is 10% higher than the regular.
It's simple math...lets say regular dyno on this mod is 235whp vs base 170whp
However dynapack's dyno shows (235*1.1- 170*1.1) = 71.5whp gain instead of 65whp gain....6.5whp difference.
The hondata flash # is similar is because the difference is small. Lets say regular dyno is 23whp gain.
23*1.1 = 25.3whp...only 2.3whp difference...So we all ignore it.
The larger the # the bigger the difference are.
PS
From hondata's dyno 208whp VS your dyno 180whp is actually 15% difference. So the difference is even higher than what I calculated above.
We can even see from hondata's dyno. hondata base dyno 180whp/ modded dyno 208whp....
I don't think you are getting 28whp @ top end.
05-11-2007, 07:11 PM
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There is a local engine dyno here that backs up the Dynapack numbers. Actually, the dynapack is really very accurate. Dynojets are actually not the best ones to compare with.
An besides, if you are looking at peak number, you are looking that the wrong thing. All chassis dynos are really good for is producing relative numbers. Before and after, etc.
An besides, if you are looking at peak number, you are looking that the wrong thing. All chassis dynos are really good for is producing relative numbers. Before and after, etc.
05-11-2007, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
There is a local engine dyno here that backs up the Dynapack numbers. Actually, the dynapack is really very accurate. Dynojets are actually not the best ones to compare with.
An besides, if you are looking at peak number, you are looking that the wrong thing. All chassis dynos are really good for is producing relative numbers. Before and after, etc.
An besides, if you are looking at peak number, you are looking that the wrong thing. All chassis dynos are really good for is producing relative numbers. Before and after, etc.
We all know every dyno is different.....But all these machines should be accurate to its standard unless it's broken.
The only problem is higher # will produce higher difference...there's no question about that.
I said it's "overrated" means overrated to most people's standard.
We all expect base dyno to have 15% tranny loss....but dynapack only has 10% tranny loss...Most of us don't think hondata+i/h on a tsx will produce 208whp...But it did on dynapack.
05-11-2007, 07:36 PM
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Getting back on the main topic... when will these products be ready for purchasing and shipping? Also, can you please post the prices for these fantastic products. thanks a lot.
05-11-2007, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kyotousa
What is accurate even means in here?
We all know every dyno is different.....But all these machines should be accurate to its standard unless it's broken.
The only problem is higher # will produce higher difference...there's no question about that.
I said it's "overrated" means overrated to most people's standard.
We all expect base dyno to have 15% tranny loss....but dynapack only has 10% tranny loss...Most of us don't think hondata+i/h on a tsx will produce 208whp...But it did on dynapack.
We all know every dyno is different.....But all these machines should be accurate to its standard unless it's broken.
The only problem is higher # will produce higher difference...there's no question about that.
I said it's "overrated" means overrated to most people's standard.
We all expect base dyno to have 15% tranny loss....but dynapack only has 10% tranny loss...Most of us don't think hondata+i/h on a tsx will produce 208whp...But it did on dynapack.
05-11-2007, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
If evaluating the design and concept between the dynojet and dynapack, the dynapack is actually a better measuring instrument and should provide more accurate results.
we just need to remember to multiply by smaller multiplier when we try to convert to crank power.
260 to the wheel is like 300@ crank.....clearly it shouldn't be the case here...
IS350 is getting 250whp on "regular" people dyno....and it's 306@crank
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lol i aint even trying to discuss dyno #....I just made a comment on hondata's dyino
because I always thoght it's crank hp and it turns out it's wheel hp...which is alot higher than I thought.
05-12-2007, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
If you want to discuss dyno numbers, please start another thread and not jack this one. Let's keep this thread back on topic.
Agreed. The subject of dyno numbers is moot.
These parts are available now, and need about 4-5 weeks for construction. All parts are made by hand.
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05-13-2007, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
Agreed. The subject of dyno numbers is moot.
These parts are available now, and need about 4-5 weeks for construction. All parts are made by hand.
Marcus
These parts are available now, and need about 4-5 weeks for construction. All parts are made by hand.
Marcus
05-13-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
As soon as I get the info I promise!
j/k
05-14-2007, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
260/210 is the the flywheel on this package:
cam kit, header, exhaust
I would love to see what a stock TSX dyno would look like compared to the Hytech one. I believe the above dyno is comparing the Hytech to a Hondata dyno.
05-15-2007, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
Finally got some pricing! Will post up very shortly, will post in sponsor's forum and link here.
Shortly = 24+ hours? = an internet lifetime!
05-16-2007, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TodaSi
Shortly = 24+ hours? = an internet lifetime!
Sorry man, I had about a week's worth of emails to catch up on today. Will give you guys some juice very soon.
In the meantime....
https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/carbing-tsx-now-available-special-order-364384/
05-17-2007, 06:45 PM
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Ordered my Hytech cat and exhaust from Heeltoe! 
Marcus was a great help and has all the information and can submit a production order for you. Already have the header ordered from John @ Hytech. 
I should be receiving the parts around the first week of June. 
Then, about a month after I receive the header/cat/exhaust, I'm gonna get the stage one cams, RSX type S VTC, springs/retainers, and Hytech Hondata re-flash, all from Heeltoe. So that should be around August.
If anyone wants to donate $ I could get the stuff sooner, then put up dynos, etc. Doesn't hurt to ask.
Currently the parts I have waiting install are: '06 TB and '06 intake manifold, which should help a little.
Marcus was a great help and has all the information and can submit a production order for you. Already have the header ordered from John @ Hytech. I should be receiving the parts around the first week of June. Then, about a month after I receive the header/cat/exhaust, I'm gonna get the stage one cams, RSX type S VTC, springs/retainers, and Hytech Hondata re-flash, all from Heeltoe. So that should be around August.
If anyone wants to donate $ I could get the stuff sooner, then put up dynos, etc. Doesn't hurt to ask.
Currently the parts I have waiting install are: '06 TB and '06 intake manifold, which should help a little.
05-17-2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TodaSi
Ordered my Hytech cat and exhaust from Heeltoe! Marcus was a great help and has all the information and can submit a production order for you. Already have the header ordered from John @ Hytech. I should be receiving the parts around the first week of June.
Then, about a month after I receive the header/cat/exhaust, I'm gonna get the stage one cams, RSX type S VTC, springs/retainers, and Hytech Hondata re-flash, all from Heeltoe. So that should be around August.
If anyone wants to donate $ I could get the stuff sooner, then put up dynos, etc. Doesn't hurt to ask.
Currently the parts I have waiting install are: '06 TB and '06 intake manifold, which should help a little.
Marcus was a great help and has all the information and can submit a production order for you. Already have the header ordered from John @ Hytech. I should be receiving the parts around the first week of June. Then, about a month after I receive the header/cat/exhaust, I'm gonna get the stage one cams, RSX type S VTC, springs/retainers, and Hytech Hondata re-flash, all from Heeltoe. So that should be around August.
If anyone wants to donate $ I could get the stuff sooner, then put up dynos, etc. Doesn't hurt to ask.
Currently the parts I have waiting install are: '06 TB and '06 intake manifold, which should help a little.
DAMN Going all out, huh?
The 06 TB & IM is cake to install. If you haven't already get the Hondata IMG and/or the Power Rev Racing gasket as well. Intake temp reducers.
Where did you get the time frame of June?
05-17-2007, 07:39 PM
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WAIT~
Does that mean IF I use the Hytech Reflash ECU, I can have typs S VTC (50 degree), stage one cams, and all other goodies? In this case I can pair with Other CAMS or Race Header/Exhaust???
Does that mean IF I use the Hytech Reflash ECU, I can have typs S VTC (50 degree), stage one cams, and all other goodies? In this case I can pair with Other CAMS or Race Header/Exhaust???
05-17-2007, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX2345
DAMN Going all out, huh?
The 06 TB & IM is cake to install. If you haven't already get the Hondata IMG and/or the Power Rev Racing gasket as well. Intake temp reducers.
Where did you get the time frame of June?
The 06 TB & IM is cake to install. If you haven't already get the Hondata IMG and/or the Power Rev Racing gasket as well. Intake temp reducers.
Where did you get the time frame of June?
Planned on getting the Hondata IMG, didn't know of the Power Rev Racing one..hmmmm.
Time frame is from Marcus. I know John has all the bends and tubing to weld up about 25 TSX exhausts and headers....that's what he showed me when I was at his shop.
I know some may ask about the RSX type/s VTC, I believe Doug @ Hondata can restrict/set VTC movement to only 40 or 45 degrees...forgot which, so I can use it with the stock pistons ('05) and BTW the valve reliefs in the '06+ have larger reliefs and thus can handle more VTC movement and therefore slightly more power.
05-17-2007, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
This is gunna be so awesome.
Although the lead time is about 4 weeks chad, just went over there again today.
Although the lead time is about 4 weeks chad, just went over there again today.
Well then I may get everything all at once then.
Next time you stop by, give John a swift kick in the pants and tell him to stop answering the phone and e-mails!
05-17-2007, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
so if you just got the headers and exhaust you shouldn't need another hondata reflash if you've already had one?
05-18-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TodaSi
My understanding is it should work...although it might get a little lean at times. Ask tsx2345, I believe he has the Hytech stuff but not the Hytech specific re-flash.
I have the full HyTech exhaust system with the regular non-HyTech reflash.
I should get the HyTech reflah to optimize the exhaust system but I am going to wait it out to see if the "you know what" comes out.
05-18-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tsxdriver
hey marcus how much are these parts going for?!?!
05-18-2007, 12:49 PM
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You're cars gonna be one badass NA monster. Even though I went the Forced Induction route, I still got love for Naturally Aspirated! 
Can't wait to see the results TodaSi
Can't wait to see the results TodaSi
05-18-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX2345
I have the full HyTech exhaust system with the regular non-HyTech reflash.
I should get the HyTech reflah to optimize the exhaust system but I am going to wait it out to see if the "you know what" comes out.
I should get the HyTech reflah to optimize the exhaust system but I am going to wait it out to see if the "you know what" comes out.
Email me. See link in sig. To talk about "you know what."