Hondata owners: Any complaints or problems?
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Hondata owners: Any complaints or problems?
Hey all,
I wanted to ask the Hondata owners if they have had any problems with it since the reflash. I am very seriously considering doing this mod as soon as opputunity comes where I can afford a few days w/o the car. I know there are many many thread on Hondata but I thought I would ask the owner, more specifically 05 MT owners, if they experienced any problems/complaints since the reflash. I hear from mechanics that playing with reflash and chips can be very harmful to the car as it overworks the engine and can cause problems down the line. This is my main concern and by know I'm hope I can get the answer from experience.
Thanks for your inputs
I wanted to ask the Hondata owners if they have had any problems with it since the reflash. I am very seriously considering doing this mod as soon as opputunity comes where I can afford a few days w/o the car. I know there are many many thread on Hondata but I thought I would ask the owner, more specifically 05 MT owners, if they experienced any problems/complaints since the reflash. I hear from mechanics that playing with reflash and chips can be very harmful to the car as it overworks the engine and can cause problems down the line. This is my main concern and by know I'm hope I can get the answer from experience.
Thanks for your inputs
Suzuka Master
Joined: Jul 2003
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From: Cincinnati, OH
Absolutely zero issues at all with the reflash. I did bung up one of the clips on the steering wheel column, so it doesn't lock together completely (1-2mm gap). Other than that, I can't believe I waited as long as I did for it.
JUST DO THIS!!
JUST DO THIS!!
COMPLAINT: It makes the car way too fast. There is a perfect imprint of my back in the driver's seat. The car just rips out from underneath you unexpectedly and if it weren't for the traction control, I would be changing tires every 5000 miles. Right turns were especially dangerous, as the tourque increase flex's the frame so much the front driver's side wheel raises off the ground. I had a local machine shop custom fab a 60mm front sway bar, which just barely keeps it down.
Also, VERY IMPORTANT, if you're going to hit the gas, do it with the sunroof closed, as it helps stop the roof from twisting. If you forget, you will probably have problems getting it closed again like I did.
It's just too much power for the street. I'm looking at a few beaters right now for daily driving. I'm going to weld a steel plate in place of the sunroof and switch all the glass to lexan. This will just have to be my track car.
Also, VERY IMPORTANT, if you're going to hit the gas, do it with the sunroof closed, as it helps stop the roof from twisting. If you forget, you will probably have problems getting it closed again like I did.
It's just too much power for the street. I'm looking at a few beaters right now for daily driving. I'm going to weld a steel plate in place of the sunroof and switch all the glass to lexan. This will just have to be my track car.
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The Hondata reflash is one of those very rare modifications that doesn't seem to have any negative side effect. Well, other than not being able to drive the car for a few days during the shipping process.
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Originally Posted by HoOnzABPTSX
Hey all,
I wanted to ask the Hondata owners if they have had any problems with it since the reflash. I am very seriously considering doing this mod as soon as opputunity comes where I can afford a few days w/o the car. I know there are many many thread on Hondata but I thought I would ask the owner, more specifically 05 MT owners, if they experienced any problems/complaints since the reflash. I hear from mechanics that playing with reflash and chips can be very harmful to the car as it overworks the engine and can cause problems down the line. This is my main concern and by know I'm hope I can get the answer from experience.
Thanks for your inputs
I wanted to ask the Hondata owners if they have had any problems with it since the reflash. I am very seriously considering doing this mod as soon as opputunity comes where I can afford a few days w/o the car. I know there are many many thread on Hondata but I thought I would ask the owner, more specifically 05 MT owners, if they experienced any problems/complaints since the reflash. I hear from mechanics that playing with reflash and chips can be very harmful to the car as it overworks the engine and can cause problems down the line. This is my main concern and by know I'm hope I can get the answer from experience.
Thanks for your inputs
Walking the Line
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From: So Cal
Reflashed my 06 mt back in march of last year and have not had any issues so far. Very pleased with this mod. Fortunately I didn't have much downtime when the car was getting reflashed. Took approx. 3 hrs. at South Bay Acura.
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whats the easiest way to get the re flash (if i ever decide to do it?)
*im sure this has been covered...*
the comment was sparked by Distortion comment:
"Reflashed my 06 mt back in march of last year and have not had any issues so far. Very pleased with this mod. Fortunately I didn't have much downtime when the car was getting reflashed. Took approx. 3 hrs. at South Bay Acura"
...I didnt know you get it done at dealerships...
thanks
*im sure this has been covered...*
the comment was sparked by Distortion comment:
"Reflashed my 06 mt back in march of last year and have not had any issues so far. Very pleased with this mod. Fortunately I didn't have much downtime when the car was getting reflashed. Took approx. 3 hrs. at South Bay Acura"
...I didnt know you get it done at dealerships...
thanks
Originally Posted by rabican
whats the easiest way to get the re flash (if i ever decide to do it?)
*im sure this has been covered...*
the comment was sparked by Distortion comment:
"Reflashed my 06 mt back in march of last year and have not had any issues so far. Very pleased with this mod. Fortunately I didn't have much downtime when the car was getting reflashed. Took approx. 3 hrs. at South Bay Acura"
...I didnt know you get it done at dealerships...
thanks
*im sure this has been covered...*
the comment was sparked by Distortion comment:
"Reflashed my 06 mt back in march of last year and have not had any issues so far. Very pleased with this mod. Fortunately I didn't have much downtime when the car was getting reflashed. Took approx. 3 hrs. at South Bay Acura"
...I didnt know you get it done at dealerships...
thanks
Most dealerships are not willing to do this and the only other place I know of that can do this is Epic Motoring.
Team Owner
Joined: Dec 2003
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From: Long Beach, CA
Originally Posted by Zoopa
Does the reflash exempt Hondata from owners failing an emissions test? Has anybody gone through the emissions test with a Hondata reflash?
Originally Posted by Hondata
Introduction
* 5000 rpm VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm
* 7600 rpm Rev limit, increased from 7300 rpm (for auto trans must be in sportshift mode)
* Maximum torque gain 26 ft/lbs torque at 6000 rpm
* Maximum power gain 29 hp at 6000 rpm
* Peak torque increases from 169ft/lbs at 4500 rpm to 175 ft pounds at 7500 rpm
* Peak power increases from 206 hp at 7100 rpm to 210 at 6800 rpm
* Very wide flat smooth torque curve. 90% of peak torque available from 2000-7000 rpm.
* Passes Californian smog testing (no measurable difference from stock)
* Fully dealer compatible - works with all Honda scan tools and equipment
The Hondata TSX reflash is designed for use with an intake and headers. It will work very well with a stock airbox and stock headers. Testing was done with a stock cat back system.
* 5000 rpm VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm
* 7600 rpm Rev limit, increased from 7300 rpm (for auto trans must be in sportshift mode)
* Maximum torque gain 26 ft/lbs torque at 6000 rpm
* Maximum power gain 29 hp at 6000 rpm
* Peak torque increases from 169ft/lbs at 4500 rpm to 175 ft pounds at 7500 rpm
* Peak power increases from 206 hp at 7100 rpm to 210 at 6800 rpm
* Very wide flat smooth torque curve. 90% of peak torque available from 2000-7000 rpm.
* Passes Californian smog testing (no measurable difference from stock)
* Fully dealer compatible - works with all Honda scan tools and equipment
The Hondata TSX reflash is designed for use with an intake and headers. It will work very well with a stock airbox and stock headers. Testing was done with a stock cat back system.
Originally Posted by Tsx536
Where did that come from? 
Originally Posted by lcraz...l
Yea mt owners have it bettter than at so do it!
Originally Posted by feuss2
I don't know why they make this car in automatic
I saw someone eating corn on the cob while driving. Their vehicle only came in AUTOMATIC
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From: N. Cali-forn-i-a
Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Jan, you're awesome. Glad you caught that.
Yeah, nice Jan. Not sure what was up with that guy. First he's bashing the reflash, then he's bashing the AT.
Let me help you!
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From: So. Cali
Originally Posted by Zoopa
Does the reflash exempt Hondata from owners failing an emissions test? Has anybody gone through the emissions test with a Hondata reflash?
Let me help you!
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From: So. Cali
Originally Posted by rabican
whats the easiest way to get the re flash (if i ever decide to do it?)
*im sure this has been covered...*
the comment was sparked by Distortion comment:
"Reflashed my 06 mt back in march of last year and have not had any issues so far. Very pleased with this mod. Fortunately I didn't have much downtime when the car was getting reflashed. Took approx. 3 hrs. at South Bay Acura"
...I didnt know you get it done at dealerships...
thanks
*im sure this has been covered...*
the comment was sparked by Distortion comment:
"Reflashed my 06 mt back in march of last year and have not had any issues so far. Very pleased with this mod. Fortunately I didn't have much downtime when the car was getting reflashed. Took approx. 3 hrs. at South Bay Acura"
...I didnt know you get it done at dealerships...
thanks
Originally Posted by Zoopa
Does the reflash exempt Hondata from owners failing an emissions test? Has anybody gone through the emissions test with a Hondata reflash?
Team Owner
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,558
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From: Long Beach, CA
Originally Posted by Tsx536
Yeah, nice Jan. Not sure what was up with that guy. First he's bashing the reflash, then he's bashing the AT.
Originally Posted by PWPTSX
Was there any difference in mpg if you are driving the car in the same rpm, stock vs. hondatafied?? like on highway?
Originally Posted by Tsx536
Yeah, nice Jan. Not sure what was up with that guy. First he's bashing the reflash, then he's bashing the AT.
Originally Posted by feuss2
COMPLAINT: It makes the car way too fast. There is a perfect imprint of my back in the driver's seat. The car just rips out from underneath you unexpectedly and if it weren't for the traction control, I would be changing tires every 5000 miles. Right turns were especially dangerous, as the tourque increase flex's the frame so much the front driver's side wheel raises off the ground. I had a local machine shop custom fab a 60mm front sway bar, which just barely keeps it down.
Also, VERY IMPORTANT, if you're going to hit the gas, do it with the sunroof closed, as it helps stop the roof from twisting. If you forget, you will probably have problems getting it closed again like I did.
It's just too much power for the street. I'm looking at a few beaters right now for daily driving. I'm going to weld a steel plate in place of the sunroof and switch all the glass to lexan. This will just have to be my track car.
Also, VERY IMPORTANT, if you're going to hit the gas, do it with the sunroof closed, as it helps stop the roof from twisting. If you forget, you will probably have problems getting it closed again like I did.
It's just too much power for the street. I'm looking at a few beaters right now for daily driving. I'm going to weld a steel plate in place of the sunroof and switch all the glass to lexan. This will just have to be my track car.
Reminder of what you sign before you reflash:
This is right from http://www.hondata.com/kseriesecuinfoform.html
Buyer releases Hondata, Inc. from any liabilities (expressed or implied, arising by law or otherwise) that may occur from the use of products sold by Hondata, Inc. and purchased by Buyer. These products are being sold for "Off Road/Competition Use" only and may be used only on vehicles used solely for "Off Road/Competition". No other applications are intended or implied. The Buyer of this product acknowledges and agrees that Seller disclaims any warranty and expressly disclaims any liability for personal injury or damages or any damages to vehicle or expensed occurred. In the event a manufacturer’s warranty exists, it is agreed and stated that under no circumstances shall the seller or manufacture be liable for any labor charged or travel time incurred in diagnosis for defects, removal, or reinstallation of this product, or any contingent expenses. It is the Buyers responsibility to ensure the ECU flash program is not overwritten by anyone, including Honda, or any agent of Honda (including Honda/Acura dealers). Exceeding the factory rev cut rpm may cause engine damage, which may not be covered by any factory warranty.
Please sign and date below to acknowledge that you have been made aware of the fact that the product that you are purchasing may void your vehicle’s factory warranty and you have been advised that this product is not EPA/CARB certified and the product is for "off Road/Competition Use" only. The Buyer will not hold any liability against Hondata, Inc. and will hold Hondata, Inc. harmless from any liability as a result of selling, purchasing and/or installing product.
From http://www.hondata.com/reflash_tsx.html :
Driving Impressions
This reflash is difficult to feel because it keeps the torque delivery flat and smooth to a much higher RPM. Rather than the torque dropping 20 ft/pounds from 5000 rpm to 6000 rpm stock, the reflash keeps the torque drop to only 10 ft pounds between 5000 and 7000 rpm. VTEC transition at 5000 rpm is also very smooth with only a slight change in induction noise.
This reflash is difficult to feel because it keeps the torque delivery flat and smooth to a much higher RPM. Rather than the torque dropping 20 ft/pounds from 5000 rpm to 6000 rpm stock, the reflash keeps the torque drop to only 10 ft pounds between 5000 and 7000 rpm. VTEC transition at 5000 rpm is also very smooth with only a slight change in induction noise.
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From: PA
Originally Posted by jlukja
None that I can tell. I've gotten my best highway mileage after the reflash.