Nighthawk04

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Can't freaking wait to put them on this Thursday!!! More pics to come.

Chaserz

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f'n sweet

zidenx

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pretty

mdkxtreme

Man that is beautiful.

princelybug

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Do you mind sharing how much they set you back?

Nighthawk04

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Most places, including King Motorsports, sell them for $1,995 but I put in a best offer on Ebay for $1,700 and got it so it's possible that someone else could get them for even less.

SG81

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damn those are nice

princelybug

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Excelerate

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If anyone needs a STOPTECH BBK shoot us a PM. We are a Master Distributor and we actually keep these kits in stock. In fact we have two BBK's with black calipers and slotted rotors in stock for $1700 shipped to the cont 48 US

Here's a sample picture:



Stoptech Big Brake Kit (Front): 4 Piston Black Caliper 328X28 Slotted Rotors

Nighthawk04

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I did not know that! I'll keep you guys in mind when I need to replace the rotor rings and pads!

Chaserz

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so expensive but would be so nice to have over the crappy stock brakes

do these fit under the stock 17's?

Nighthawk04

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Unfortunately no, stock wheels won't fit over Stoptech's unless you run some pretty thick spacers.

Nighthawk04

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So the install is complete and it wasn't the easiest task since I had to add some 10mm spacers with longer lug studs since my O.Z. Ultraleggera's didn't fit by a few mm's...

Only real hiccup came when one of the lug studs that Ichiba sent me didn't fit... The "knurl" was too small so when I pressed it into the hub, the whole lug stud just spins.. I'll call them tomorrow to get a few extra sent to me since there's not a single auto parts store near me that has 50mm 12x1.5 lug studs with a 12.22mm knurl... The longest anyone has is 36mm, which is stock length..

valeratj

theys looks nize

SLIKRIK

lucky!!

littlebo

How about stopping impressions ?

tsx_jdm

im deff upgrading to a bbk next year

Nighthawk04

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So I didn't want to reply to this until the rotors and pads were fully broken in so I apologize for the delay.

My opinion on the improvement may be a bit askewed because of the experience I had with my '01 Eclipse GT. The stock brakes on that thing were absolute junk. 3 sets of pads and had to get the front rotors turned twice and replaced once within the first 12,000 miles of the car's life. I gave up after those first 12,000 miles and bought a 13" Baer Track Kit and the performance difference was absolutely astonishing. Dealing with how badly the stock rotors kept warping drove me nucking futs...




So in the case of my '04 TSX whose stock brakes were pretty good imo (went through 2 sets of front rotors and pads and 1 set of rear rotors and pads in 97,000 miles), and again relative to the horrific stock brakes on my '01 Eclipse, the Stoptech's do make a significant difference in slowing the car down from high speeds (55+) but the slower I'm braking from, the less noticable it is that I've got Stoptech's w/ Axxis Ultimates on the front. Brake pedal feel on the other hand has improved signficantly at all speeds and this is more than likely thanks to the SS brake lines that came with the kit. Overall and for what I use the car for, and considering the fact that most of the driving I do is above 55mph, I actually look forward to braking, as crazy as that may sound..

However, and to be totally honest, I will state that there are some serious downsides to having a big brake kit of this magnitude, wheel fitment being the biggest and having tires that are grippy enough to handle the added braking force. I'm currently running 215/50ZR17 Yokohoma S.Drives and where it was rare that I would lock up the tires with stock brakes, I now lock up at anywhere above 80% effort. I realize that this could be because the added deceleration g-forces that the Stoptech's have over stock are causing the ABS to kick in long before the Stoptech's will actually lock up but I think I'll soon be switching to a "grippier" 235/45-17 summer tire to see if that solves the problem. Before I buy new tires, though, and maybe you guys could answer this for me, is it possible to just pull the ABS fuse and deactivate the system to see if it is in fact the tires losing traction above 80% or if it is in fact the ABS system? I'm not an electronic's person so I don't even know what that fuse circuit might also control.

Phil

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Enjoy those Stoptechs. I've had my setup for 2 years now and I love them - no issues to speak of .

I'm going to call it now and say you will eventually want to swap out those Axxis Ultimate pads. IMO, they're a little too aggressive for the street. They take a while to heat up, they dust A LOT, and they become noisy (i.e. squeaky) very quickly.

I swapped mine out to Hawk HPSs and I haven't looked back. They don't bite as hard as the Axxis pads, but for street applications they're much more manageable in every other way.

Regarding your issue, I'm not sure I follow. ABS is meant to prevent you from locking up under braking, yet you want to run without it? I believe disabling the system would simply exacerbate your issue.

Nighthawk04

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I hear you about how much the Ultimates dust. When I ran them with my Baer Track Kit on my Eclipse, they only lasted me about 10,000 miles or so and this is what they would do to my wheels between each gas fill-up (200 miles or so):



And in fact, here's what I said about them 4 years ago:

http://www.club3g.com/forum/wheels-t...-ultimate.html

In terms of the ABS thing, doesn't our ABS system work on the level of measuring braking g-forces so that when a certain limit is reached, the ABS system will automatically kick in? That's how it worked on the Eclipse (in addition to comparing each wheel's speed.

Or in our case, does it rely solely on measuring each wheel's speed and when one is suddenly different, the ABS kicks in? If that's the case, it'll be pointless for me to pull the ABS fuse to see if it makes any difference since it won't.

Phil

littlebo

Thanks for rewiev man )

You have 2 systems on ur car , VSA and ABS .

If VSA see that one wheel spins faster then other , especially rear wheels , it will brake the opposite wheels to stabilize traction .

If ABS sensor see that wheel is locked with brakes than it starts to depress pads to let the wheel spin and you can correct traction while hard braking. Brake way with ABS is always longer than without it but safer under lots of conditions. Disabling it will not improve overall braking, youll just hear a rubber squeacking more often then before. Im usually disable ABS for summer time and enable for snow\winter and so on . Try to disable it and will see what is the best for ya ) Better ( wider ) tires is a must have to handle bbk , i have just RB upgrade on stock calipers and now my 225/45/R17 michelin pilot exalto cant handle rised braking forces to 100% .

Excelerate

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Unless someone had old inventory he likely has the STOPTECH Performance pads. They come standard on STOPTECH's BBK's. It's superior to the Axxis pads in virtually every way. It is a para-aramid compound.



StopTech Street Performance brake Pads are engineered to meet the demands of high performance driving while maintaining the refinement and comfort expected in everyday
driving conditions. StopTech brake pads combine the benefits of premium street brake pads with aggressive friction formulas suitable for light track day and autocross use.
Para-aramid composites are specially formulated to provide linear response at both cold and hot temperatures, delivering optimum stopping performance over a wide range of driving conditions.

Nighthawk04

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Yeah, the pads did come in a "Stoptech street performance" box so you're probably right and I can't see it being an old kit since the company I ordered from had to order it direct from Stoptech and then I had to wait 4 weeks because I wanted silver calipers. In addition, when I ran Ultimates before with my Baer kit, and right after the install, it took 10 - 15 hard stops before I could even get the pads to coming close to bedding into the new rotor rings. The pads included are dusting quite considerably so far but that's probably because of the bed-in procedure that I followed so it'll likely taper off.