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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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brighter HID bulbs?

If i wanted to replace my existing headlight bulbs for a brighter one say, a 6000K. Would all I have to do is purchase the bulb or do i need a whole new kit?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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6000K isn't brighter. Just more purple.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by iamandypark
If i wanted to replace my existing headlight bulbs for a brighter one say, a 6000K. Would all I have to do is purchase the bulb or do i need a whole new kit?
You do not need a whole new kit. You already have HID's from the factory so all you need to do is change the bulb. The stock bulb is 4300k. The 6000K bulb is slightly brighter than the stock bulb and is extreme white.

There are some pics of some different kelvin bulbs in this thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/kaixen-hid-kit-groupbuy-330409/
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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im looking for a more blue/purplish bulb that is more intense than my stock ones. does anyone know any good bulbs and their dgress i could use?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by iamandypark
im looking for a more blue/purplish bulb that is more intense than my stock ones. does anyone know any good bulbs and their dgress i could use?
6500K will have a violet tint
8500K will be extreme blue

The higher the kelvin the less lumen ( light output). 6000K is the brightest after the stock 4300K. Past 6000K you start to lose some light output.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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6500K will have a violet tint
8500K will be extreme blue

The higher the kelvin the less lumen ( light output). 6000K is the brightest after the stock 4300K. Past 6000K you start to lose some light output.

i had 6000 on my previous sentra...it was crystal white with a very small hint of blue..
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Is it pretty easy to change the bulb?
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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actually the more kelvin you go up the less light output you will get. There are lots of pages that back this up. This is why OEM use 4300 because they give the most lumens. If 6000k does not have compromise then manufacturers will use them for the looks instead of 4300.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by curik_euro
actually the more kelvin you go up the less light output you will get. There are lots of pages that back this up. This is why OEM use 4300 because they give the most lumens. If 6000k does not have compromise then manufacturers will use them for the looks instead of 4300.
That's what I said.

The higher the kelvin the less lumen ( light output).
And Acura OEM is 4300K but BMW uses something closer to 5500K. Where does it say 4300K is the brightest?
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
That's what I said.



And Acura OEM is 4300K but BMW uses something closer to 5500K. Where does it say 4300K is the brightest?
saw this in another forum



4300k seems to be the highest lumen (about 3200)
5000k has a slight blue tone, which might be nice, but less lumen (around 2700)
6000k has a purplish tinge and even less lumen (2400)
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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BMW does not use anything higher than 4300K bulbs. All car manufacturers use 4300K bulbs for stock HID lights. They give a more bluish hue only because of the lens. This has been visited many times before, and there are a lot of information out there about HID lighting.

As of now, 4300K is the closest color temperature to sunlight, and the brightest. Anything above or below will give less light output, even 5300K.

Oh, and the D2S bulbs (which is used on the TSX) are the brightest out of the HID bulb types such as the D2R.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I'm not saying you guys are wrong but everything I have read has always said 6000k to be the brightest.

Where are the links to your info b/c I have been searching for hours and haven't found solid evidence nor a good source? I'm not saying you guys are wrong; I'm just wondering if you have a valid source b/c I want to read up more to learn more.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
I'm not saying you guys are wrong but everything I have read has always said 6000k to be the brightest.

Where are the links to your info b/c I have been searching for hours and haven't found solid evidence nor a good source? I'm not saying you guys are wrong; I'm just wondering if you have a valid source b/c I want to read up more to learn more.

http://www.hid-online.com/hidonline/...colourtemp.htm

http://www.buyhid.com/index.php?cPath=25

http://www.theeshadow.net/carmod/althid.html
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
I'm not saying you guys are wrong but everything I have read has always said 6000k to be the brightest.

Where are the links to your info b/c I have been searching for hours and haven't found solid evidence nor a good source? I'm not saying you guys are wrong; I'm just wondering if you have a valid source b/c I want to read up more to learn more.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=330018398779
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...on=Custom&ID=5
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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http://www.autolamps-online.com/hido...colourtemp.htm
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 02:27 AM
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Dictionary.com:

lu·men (lmn)
Abbr. lm Physics. The unit of luminous flux in the International System, equal to the amount of light given out through a solid angle by a source of one candela intensity radiating equally in all directions.

Philips D2S 4300K HID bulb: 3,200 LM
Philips D2S 6000k Ultinon HID bulb: 2,800 LM

So you're looking at a 12.5% difference in light output by going up 1700K in color. Not too big of a deal though because the only noticeable loss would be at the farthest distances from the headlight itself. Now, as you go higher to maybe an 8000k bulb you're only going to get about 2,500 LM of output which will definitely be a more apparent loss in output compared to stock bulbs. Just for reference though, a Silverstar halogen bulb puts out about 1,000 to 1,500 LM depending on which bulb # you use.
Also, if you use any bulbs above 10,000K in color you might as well be driving around with a couple fluorescent black lights on the front of your car.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Thank you for the information. I guess what I had read previously was similiar to this info:

Color temperature 6000K

6000K has an approximately 2800lm output, which is 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 5000K. Although it has a bit lesser light output, it emits pure whiter light with very slight and barely noticeable tint of blue and purple.

6000K: Although not as bright as 5000K when measured by scale, it is even brighter than 5000K by naked eye because of it's crystal white color.


So to the naked eye, it appears brighter but isn't technically due to the extreme white nature of the light emitted. Now I have more solid evidence. Thanks.
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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I guess everyone lumins are different. This webpage says 5k is brighter than the 4300, and 6k is not are bright as the stock 4300

http://shop.3bspecialties.com/04-08-Low-Beams_c2361.htm
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 07:08 AM
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4300k vs 6000k

6000K IS ACTUALLY NOT at all brighter if you are looking for actual visibility..4300k is actually the "brightest more visible" on the market.
But if you are looking for a blue/purple then YES 6000k will give you that..and no you just need the new bulbs, and dont let anyone tell you that you have to remove your bumper to get to the headlites either...i have personally done it without removing the bumper lol
Goodluck!
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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All you guys are right, 4300k is the brightest. 6000k looks blue, anything more than than you you start to tink purple (which isn't useful).

Its all about how much light reflects off the road surface, and 4300k reflects the best.
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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I just swapped mine out for 6k. Probably the worst bulbs I've ever changed in a car. Not hard, just a pain in the ass! I like the look of 8k better, but I'm gonna take all the amber reflectors out and put LEDs in there, so I wanted all the color output to match for a clean look
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Old Apr 1, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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