dzuy

don't know where, how much, but there is a pic of a ABP tsx at www.madperformance.net with brembo's! woo!

i guess they are a paying sponsor of the site? check it out.



go to downloads, then pictures, then acura voila!

xizor

awww... damn, that's the CompTech TSX, and one of the pics is the supercharger system!! Too bad its not a Eaton/Roots blower

dzuy

is that the supercharger for our car? haha, you can tell i'm really into the performance aspect eh?

too bad the supercharger from comptech is always freakin expensive.

accsuperstar

some CG on the board the brembos too. he PMed me the price but i deleted it. anyways it was too $ for me

dzuy

really? never saw it.

ClutchPerformer

Centrifugal?

Clutch, who would prefer a screw-type blower.

NeoChaser

holy crap those rims cost 700 bucks a peice.... damn...

accsuperstar

from comptech yes. you can get them cheaper elsewhere. work meisters

dagigu

brembo kit...hmmmm, yummy!!!

vwong

I could be wrong, but that looks to me like it's for the S2000.

Dan Martin

I don't see how that could fit into our car. The orientation is wrong.

Tsex on 19s

i WANT A CARBON FIBER HOOD DAMN!

kaikai114

go7father7 is the one with brembos on his CG TSX, it costed him around $2,250

Tsex on 19s

damn id get body kits before that shit... but still hot mod.

xizor

Looks you're right, I assumed it being a CompTech TSX display and w/ the strut tower bar in the back it was for the TSX. But it appears that strut tower and airbox are for the s2k.

Guess that still gives hope for a root blower for the TSX

ClutchPerformer

Screw-type! Screw-type! Roots is inefficient.

dzuy

ouch, i'd rather keep that in the bank account haha. nice tho!

Dan Martin

For those who don't know the difference between superchargers I found a good site a while ago: http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=76

xizor

Roots/Eaton/Screw etc. etc., more or less the same thing... they just aren't centrifugal. Only good thing about a centrifugal is you can intercool it

Dan Martin

Centrifugal superchargers sound like a better match for high-revving engines. I think that's why they used it on the S2K.

dabuda

ouch, def looks nice tho

ClutchPerformer

Not really. The site Dan listed explains pretty well. Basically, with a screw type you get good efficiency without having to deal with the lag of a centrifugal.

dzuy

yea i've read that in several places. i knew a guy that had the centrifugal SC for a 2000 civic SI, he def noticed a lag, but when power kicked in, it really kicked in.

basically, i've read (i'm not a performance guru) that the eaton blowers are great for instant power, whereas the centrifugal blower (like a a turbo) has lag, but you can get more power at the high end.

so a eaton would be great for autocross huh xizor?

whereas the centrifugal would rule in drag runs.

just my penny * 2

ClutchPerformer

Exactly.

xizor

Eaton is a big bag of fun, w/ the centrifugal I would just feel like I should've gotten a turbo. I drove my roommate's H22 Prelude w/ a JRSC (Eaton), and it pulls like crazy down low. IMO A honda engine with weaker low end torque would benefit more from the linear response of a Eaton. Throttle response is just insane.

So Centrifugal SC < Turbo

JTso

iTrader: (2)

My JRSC setup on a Civic. It's fun but I'd rather have a turbo instead. SC runs too hot. :P

Tsex on 19s

Clean setup, how much that run you.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

I think the JRSC was about $2400 plus a bunch of misc parts to make it run correctly. During the process of digging a hole in my pocket, I've lost track how much I spent. My guess is another $2000. However, the experience I gained is priceless.

xizor

What'd you use to tune it, did you have an aftermarket ECU?

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Hondata S200 full system.

tsXgtp

You can intercool a roots...The I\C sits right inbetween the blower and manifold. You will lose boost with it. Just have to drop pulley size to make up for it.

xizor

I'll correct myself, can't air to air intercool it, only water to air

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Many have tried to intercool the rooter without much success. Dropping the pulley size also increases the rpm of the rooter which pushes it to the design limit and the teflon coating comes off the blades. Not really worth it for the amount of money and effort...

tsXgtp

Are you talking about roots blowers in general or only on honda's etc....?
I used to own an Eaton M90 and I know a few people that currently run intercoolers on theirs. These units out for the grand prix are VERY successful and have now seen at least a year of public run time.
Puley sizes being used are available down to 2.35". Thats 1.45" under stock. The blowers can handle the rpm, the teflon can't however. Not for too long. Luckily the rotors can be replaced and aren't too expensive. Check out:
http://www.3800performance.com/vehic...97_03_miva.htm
http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/pro...ntercooler.htm if you aren't all ready aware.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Yes, I was talking about SC on Honda/Acura due to the limited space available to mount an intercooler between the blower and the manifold. I suppose anything is possible if you have the room under the hood or money/time to make it work.

dzuy

i know that vortech made a kit for a couple of honda's with the centr. SC, and there was an optional aftercooler.

but i remember looking at that setup, if that shaft ever broke, you'd be f*ed big time.