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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Do the brakes on the TSX match up with any other Honda, as far as Rotor, Pads and Calipers. I want to order new brake parts, but nobody lists parts for the TSX yet. Are they the same as maybe the RSX, RSX-S or S2000. Anyone know any info on this.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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Stoptech has a big brake kit available too.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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do you want to upgrade the whole brake kit!?
if so...
brembo and stoptech both have the big brake kit out for TSX now, actually there are lots of stuff out for TSX brake^^

btw, keep us updated when you put your coil-overs on...haha, your ride is getting hotter!!!
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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kingmotorsports.com has the stoptech rotors by themselves
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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I guess I should have been more specific, my bad. I am looking to see if other applications would fit because I'd like a set of endless or spoon brakes, something along those lines.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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I've heard that people have used the spoon brakes with the S2000's adapter kit. I'd do some research into that, but I think it just might work. Run a search again on the site and see if anything pops up.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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i still don't understand why this big brake kits can't offer a rear package as well... yes i know about locking up the rear. but why not have a full set?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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i still don't understand why this big brake kits can't offer a rear package as well... yes i know about locking up the rear. but why not have a full set?
link to faq . You might have already seen that before, but if throwing off the brake balance makes for an unsafe drive or worse braking why would you want it. The back looks tiny in a larger wheel, but I'd take safety and handling over looks any day.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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For the rear you could swap out rotors in the same size, but slotted, and then paint the caliper, replace the pads. It will give it a better look, maybe better performance, without any changes to the actual set-up that a big brake kit would do. That's my plan anyways, but need something different for the front.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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The TSX has the same brakes as the RSX-S. You can use the Spoon rotors for the ITR (same as the S2000), but you'll have to get a different adapter kit. Don't waste your money on the adapter kit. Just go get a longer lead bolt for the caliper and 3 seriously strong washers for each corner. That will be all you need. For 2 bucks, you'll have a proper adapter. Trust me, that's what I did for the RSX, and will do for the TSX. It works fine after 15000 miles. Not only that, but cross-drilled rotors look sweet. Especially when you lose 3 lbs of unsprung weight at each corner. I also recommend the Endless pads. Green Stuff is good too.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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So when looking for application, I can get the caliper and all for a RSX-S set-up. Get the extra long bolt, and some good washers and I'll be set? Where would I find these 3 seriously strong washers? I am without a clue as to the type of washer needed if you could help me out.
What endless pads do you recommend? I drive aggressive, but do not track the car.
Thanks kurt, you da man!
Time to see if endless has an application for the RSX-S..........
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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yeah the look is part of it but i don't believe you can't make a system that takes advantage of all 4 corners (safely).
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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DEVO, the problem lies in the brake distribution. If you installed a big brake kit on the rear, the brake distribution would not be correct and you may end up locking the rear wheels. The problem with most modern cars is that you cannot tweak the brake distribution in a stock setup and would need to buy some sort of adapter. Also, since when you brake, the weight of the car shifts forward and so your front brakes are more important. The increased braking power at the rear will not significantly improve your braking distance.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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You won't have to touch the calipers at all. Just do the rotors and the pads. Calipers are way too expensive for their cost effectiveness. You could use the Spoon 4-pot monoblock ones if you really want to drop some serious cash on the calipers. On the pads, just go with the middle of the road stuff if you aren't taking it to the track. Though the Endless CC-X isn't a bad pad at all.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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OK so one more time for the slow guy then please kurt.....what does the extra long bolt and washers go to then if not replacing the caliper?
Maybe I'll buy all the stuff and take a trip to Austin. You can show me about the brakes, and I'll employ acc to help with the coilovers.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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You are essentially extending the spacing on the caliper to accomodate the rotor. Though its measurement is supposed to be correct and the same, you will have to allow to space the caliper. Believe me, I had to figure this out the hard way. Otherwise, when you go to put the stock caliper back on over the Spoon rotor, you'll see that it won't fit back over it. It sucks when you think you're basically done, and it just goes "thunk."
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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I guess I'm not making myself clear, I know the issues of brake distrubutions. I would like a kit to have all 4 corners covered. At least to make it look like a complete package. Instead of looking at a nice front brake and a crappy rear brake.

If the rear portion of the kit just serves as a vanity brake, then so be it. I can't imagine this to be that difficult. Also, I don't buy the excuse that the rear brakes can't be made to be more effective.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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You can put a front kit on the back but you'll have to play with a proportioning valve to set the bias. You'll probably have to get creative with the parking brake and perhaps manufacture a couple brackets but it can be done. It's not worth it IMHO. Suspension mods and better tires will do more for your braking than a rear brake kit.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Kurt--OK, I think I got you now. So the longer bolt is to space the outer side of the caliper further apart, and the stronger washers are to allow these bolts to be held into place better? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Any brake shop, ie Midas, would be able to ensure these bolts are installed properly if I take it to them and explain, no?
Again, thanks for the help, time to go shopping!
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Dani--where did you see brembo brake upgrades at. I looked on their site and didn't see any. I am thinking for now, Brembo slotted rotors, with endless pads. Later I will upgrade the calipers.
Looking for the rotors though, found the pads.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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OK....one more question for anyone who knows something about different Acuras or works for Acura.....
I was on optauto.com looking for rotors, they have some, but I am a little confused. The ones they have are for the CL 01-03, MDX 01-03, and the TL 99-03, as well as the 04+ TSX, all with the same part number.
Does that mean that all these cars share the same brake parts? If so, that should make my search a little easier, because I can buy the rotors for one of the other vehicles since it's the same application.
Anyone?
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 02:36 AM
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Ok, since you all are talking about it I have a quesiton. I'm looking to upgrade all 4 rotors to a bigger size. With my new rims the rotors look so tiny. I prefer performance rotors that are drilled. Slotted are OK, but I prefer the drilled rotors. Any brands, links, and prices would really help. Thanks


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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Try Brembo, StopTech, Spoon, Wilwood (don't know if they will fit on import), the list goes on.

Brembo is probably your best bet, but they are expensive.

www.tirerack.com (call them to see which size will fit for your wheel package.)

for wilwood:

http://www.precisionbrakescompany.co...od_google.html

for the rest just do a google.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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Brembo does have a brake kit to "upsize" and replace the current set-up on the car. I am looking specifically for a rotor but can't find part numbers from either brembo, or rotora. Haven't tried wilwood or baer....maybe I'll try them next.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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I got a better one ... why don't we use TL

disc and calipers?

that would put some stopping power on the TSX
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Re: brake question

Originally posted by cmf
Do the brakes on the TSX match up with any other Honda, as far as Rotor, Pads and Calipers. I want to order new brake parts, but nobody lists parts for the TSX yet. Are they the same as maybe the RSX, RSX-S or S2000. Anyone know any info on this.
cmf,

Here is what I know. TSX brakes based on JDM Accord platform has a max diameter of 300mm. (BTW what is TSX size? I assume its the same.) The brake discs have different part number from previous Accord. Slight physical differences. So far the rotors have been more durable and warp resistant than previous Accord(my reference CL1 vs CL7 both of which i have owned)

Pads changed to Project Mu Titan Kai 850 degrees C. With steel braided Teflon lines which I recommend.

And have seen and driven a CL7 with NSX dual piston calipers but original discs.

Also believe all Accord based models have same brake parts. Brakes on heaviest Accord derived model should be great in a lighter car like TSX or CL7.

Cannot fit Integra type R Brembos nor S2000 rotors.

Hopeful that TL Brembos will fit as it seems to be based on Accord platform. Hope some one picks up the dare and tries. Please post if you do.



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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Brembo has a full kit for the TSX out, but I kinda don't want to spend the money on those. I'd rather piece it together and get a mixture of all good things, ie: brembo rotors, spoon calipers, endless pads.......I'm slowly finding things.

Anyone know if stop tech and rotora are any good. I saw the post before about stop-tech....anyone with experience using any of these sets?
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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I have not used them, but I have heard good things about stop-tech brakes, in general. I haven't heard anything about the TSX kit in specific. I think I'm just going to do a rotor, pad upgrade and save some cash.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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what kind of rotors have you looked at....or getting?
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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Well considering that, I might as well jsut do a rotor upgrade as well. I would love to have a bigger brake set in the back, but it sounds like that can't be done. And I don't feel like spending $2300 on Brembo brakes eiter. I've looked some brakes off of tire rack.com and some off of Ebay. I really wanted some Brembo rotors, but I can't find any

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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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if you want just brembo rotors... tirerack sells them seperately.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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they do sell the rotors separate? How much, do you know?
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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called today, no separate rotors, only upgrade kits. Some lady at brembo replies to e-mails and has no f'ing clue. She says just the opposite of what their site already tells you.
She said there was rotor replacements, but no upgrade kits, when in fact it's just the opposite. To think she is getting paid to no nothing! I want a job like that!
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Are stop-tech rotors any good. They have em for 116 ea on the front and 78 ea on rear. Just replacements and they are drilled
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Are stop-tech rotors any good. They have em for 116 ea on the front and 78 ea on rear. Just replacements and they are drilled
BUY THEM
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Are stop-tech rotors any good. They have em for 116 ea on the front and 78 ea on rear. Just replacements and they are drilled
Where?
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From stop tech
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Rotors (drilled) and pads 500.00 shipped, ordered today. They kinda turned me off from the Endless pads, saying something about not as good something..something....anyways, got some upgraded Axxis pads ??

Needless to say I should feel a difference in braking and when all my shit is finally installed, it should be a bit more fun to drive.

Now....where's that damn spoon tower bar and rear sways at????
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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^I couldn't find those on the website



I would like to replace my rotors because they are warped for some reason even though 99.9% of my driving is highway cruising.

What is the best way of doing this? Comptech rotors or something else? I would like to go ahead and get Slotted or drilled rotors but keep as much stock of the other stuff to keep the price down. Any advice?
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