What Oil Filter should be used? Acura's or Mobil1's?

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Old 01-14-2007, 08:09 PM
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What Oil Filter should be used? Acura's or Mobil1's?

i am about to get my first oil change at 2,500.

i was going to have this done at the local EZ lube.

should i go buy the oil filter they use at the dealer and take it to EZ lube? or should i just go to EZ lube and use their mobil1 filter?

which is better?
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mobil 1.
read this oil filters review: http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
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Originally Posted by hrj_1985
mobil 1.
read this oil filters review: http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
what size mobil1 oil filter fits the 06 tsx?
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err.. i forgot which one.. its either m1-110 or m1-105
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The OEM Filter is a Fram Filter, so Mobil1 is apparently a higher class filter
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The original filter that came with the car is by Filtech, the replacement you get from the dealers is by Honeywell. You can still get Filtech on ebay from certain Acura dealers.
Old 01-15-2007, 10:57 AM
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I asked this in another thread - but got no response, so I'll try here........
Anyone any info (like above link) of the Mugen Filter?
Anyone tried one and can say whether it's any better or not?
Looking at the image on the Mugen website, it appears to indicate it has better flow rate, filters just as well as OEM, but also retains(?) more pressure for high rpm state (VTEC invoked).
Thinking about it, but would rather not if it's just paying for a name brand ultimately.
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What filter do you use JTso?
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First oil change at 2500 miles? Thats not a lot of break in time.
Old 01-15-2007, 02:28 PM
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I did my first oil change @ 3,500k and everythings been fine....., doesnt use any oil and engine still purrrssss..... ive used mobil-1 ever since......, I really think its worth the extra few bucks.....
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Originally Posted by drunkenbuda
What filter do you use JTso?
Mobil 1
Old 01-15-2007, 07:06 PM
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I use the OEM Honda s2000 filter. Top quality Japanese Toyo Roki filter, and larger size for a little more oil capacity.

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a040400.PDF
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I use Mobile1 M1-110
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Originally Posted by poltergeist
I use the OEM Honda s2000 filter. Top quality Japanese Toyo Roki filter, and larger size for a little more oil capacity.

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a040400.PDF
I have 5 of the same waiting installation (one at a time of course )

Any idea how much extra oil should be used when using these?
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Originally Posted by curls
I have 5 of the same waiting installation (one at a time of course )

Any idea how much extra oil should be used when using these?
In all honesty it isn't much. I think I usually put 5qts in and it ends up pretty close to the top mark on the dipstick (maybe even slightly over).
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I just did my oil change on my 07 IS250 at 730 miles. My dad thought I was crazy but I love my car sooo much that I had to change it. Plus the oil was almost half inch above the fill mark on the oil dip stick.

This guy did an oil change on his GS350 with 501 miles on it and had huge scrap metal shavings in his oil filter so I got and changed mine.

I didnt see any big metal shavings thought but feel alot better.
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hmmm... i thought I read you shouldn't change your oil for the first 3K miles, since the oil used for the first fill is different...
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Get a HAMP oil filter
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Originally Posted by ChrismanTSX
hmmm... i thought I read you shouldn't change your oil for the first 3K miles, since the oil used for the first fill is different...
Think thats a myth. I do not think Toyota has some kind of break in oil in there.

Changing your oil early cannot harm your engine.
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Originally Posted by ChrismanTSX
hmmm... i thought I read you shouldn't change your oil for the first 3K miles, since the oil used for the first fill is different...
It doesn't work that way. The oil used in it is different SO that you can change oil after 1k miles. It's not because there is different oil in it that you must change oil after 3k.
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http://www.handa-accessories.com/tsx.html

there's a special for a pack of 6 filters for $26. Should I get it? Is that the same thing the dealers use when I get an oil change?
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Honda recommends leaving the oil in until the first scheduled service interval, as explicitly stated in the owner's manual. They are the only OEM that I know of who makes such a statement.

Anyway, either filter is fine and you are unlikely to realize a benefit from the additional cost of the Mobil 1 oil filter if the oil and filter is changed when recommended. Even the infamous orange can will do fine if changed at the recommended intervals, or more.
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Folks, please take the time to read your manual.
It says very clearly not to change your oil before your scheduled maintenance.
that's (at least) no oil change before 3k. myth or not, follow the book.

more stuff on oil:

http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm
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Originally Posted by luigilee
Folks, please take the time to read your manual.
It says very clearly not to change your oil before your scheduled maintenance.
that's (at least) no oil change before 3k. myth or not, follow the book.

more stuff on oil:

http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm
Very usefull..
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Filter info

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...lterstudy.html
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Those surveys are done by self proclaimed experts and are completely unscientific. What is considered "good" and "bad" are merely the opinion of the author. There is 0 scientific evidence to back up his claims. All of the filters are built to meet or exceed OEM requirements, while I'll agree that some are better built than others...some are built to a "just enough" state. With that said, stick with a mid-ranged filter, but even the cheapest filters will not adversely affect your engine life provided that they are replaced when recommended.
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
Those surveys are done by self proclaimed experts and are completely unscientific. What is considered "good" and "bad" are merely the opinion of the author. There is 0 scientific evidence to back up his claims. All of the filters are built to meet or exceed OEM requirements, while I'll agree that some are better built than others...some are built to a "just enough" state. With that said, stick with a mid-ranged filter, but even the cheapest filters will not adversely affect your engine life provided that they are replaced when recommended.

Yes I understand, but what he explains is that most filters are manufactured by the same companies and are the same in design and materials but charge more for one than the other when it is exactly the same thing.
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Well, while it's true that filters are manufactured by only a select few manufacturers (similar to auto batteries), there are some slight differences in the filtration efficiency ratings of various filters.

For instance, the SuperTech and STP filters are both entry-level offerings from Champs. While they may appear "identical" to the eyes of some, the STP media actually offers slightly better efficiency according to my ex-Champs contact.

Likewise, the K&N and Mobil 1 filters are made by Champs. They are their flagship product(s). However, the K&N product seems to perform a bit better according to an independent lab.

Note: I didn't read the backyard test, so I have no clue what the reviewer said.
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I was skeptical about the "don't change the oil early" claim in the Acura owner's manual also, but someone else here actually corresponded with Acura and received a response claiming that the initial oil fill was specially formulated for break-in and should not be changed early.
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Originally Posted by rb1
I was skeptical about the "don't change the oil early" claim in the Acura owner's manual also, but someone else here actually corresponded with Acura and received a response claiming that the initial oil fill was specially formulated for break-in and should not be changed early.
I received that same information from Acura also.
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FWIW I use either a Pure One filter or a Filtech Honda/Acura filter. I prefer the Filtech.
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the oil they use at the Acura dealer I go to is Castrol Synthetic
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
Honda recommends leaving the oil in until the first scheduled service interval, as explicitly stated in the owner's manual. They are the only OEM that I know of who makes such a statement.

Anyway, either filter is fine and you are unlikely to realize a benefit from the additional cost of the Mobil 1 oil filter if the oil and filter is changed when recommended. Even the infamous orange can will do fine if changed at the recommended intervals, or more.
Right on.....both Honda and Acura dealer here made that clear at purchase...
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More than you can ever read on motor oil....

http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru....php?Cat=0&C=7

and there is a forum there on filters too.
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What is the size wrench for the factory OEM filter? Want to go with Mobil1 M1-110, but that should be hand-tightened only, correct? Thanks all
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The OEM filter should also be hand tightened only as well.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
The OEM filter should also be hand tightened only as well.
This will be my first oil change, and have read on all threads that the first time getting the oil filter off is really hard. So maybe the Hulk put the OEM filter on first?
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just buy those cheapo rubber filter wrench. but i agree on the hand tightening of the filters. they tighten and seal better after the startup of the car. thats how we do it to on industrial diesel engines too.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
The OEM filter should also be hand tightened only as well.
Actually the spec. is 3/4 of a turn and/or 8.7ft lbs (12Nm) with a cap wrench which is why the factory installed filter can be hard to get off.

I've always hand tightened the oil filters on my cars with no problems but the above is what Honda/Acura recommends.


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