who bothers?

 

me. it's cold in the mornin' brotha.

 

people in CA saying its cold outside is always funny to me

 

must be colder up there in the bay.

do people warm up even when it's 80 degrees out? my gf won't move her car in the morning without warming it up... even if it's 90 degrees out.

 

I'll get the car out and moving, but I refrain from WOT and high rpms until it's up to temperature.

 

I *always* warm up a vehicle before driving, let the fluids get circulated first.

 

http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&threadid=1561

 

If it is as cold as -10 or -20 (F), I may let the engine idle for 30 seconds but normally will drive the vehicle immediately after starting; at lower rpm and speeds for the first couple of miles. This certainly has not caused any premature damage to any of my previous vehicles ..all reached rather high mileage without major engine work needed.

 

I safer to drive off your lot in moderate rpm's than to warm up your car since the oil will reach its optimal temp much faster. Go check the other thread it's very helpful

 

I don't warm up. Lately it's been in the upper 50's when I go to work in the morning. The only time I let the car warm up is when the windows are fogged up.

 

I'd like to echo this. In fact it is pretty specifically NOT recommended to just switch a car on and let it idle while stationary to "warm it up".

You should drive off immediately you start the car and it will warm up very quickly if the ambient temp is not too low. The all encompassing rule is 10 mins/10 miles, but in warmer climes less than 5 mins usually suffices.

Also realize it's not your water (coolant) you're trying to warm up, but your oil. Many coolant temp gauges are not meant to accurately specify temp, just cold/hot/normal. From the oil temp gauge in my car it takes about 5 mins to warm up. Of course I live in Texas (beautiful mid-70s day). That said, I won't get above 5k rpm (8k limit) until the oil temp is close to 200.

C.

 

I wam up every time i start the car.

 

Two words -- Phoenix, Arizona

 

start the car, and then I drive off... slowly until when the temperature reaches normal then i can start playing around... I think someone said first 5 minutes or whatever, drive under 3K and no abusive pedel mashing and hard breaking. I think taht makes more sense then letting it set and not move ther car while the engine is running

 

I've actually heard stepping on it is sometimes best because it gets everything moving faster (fluids) and gets the engine hotter. But WE don't really know, do we? We're just speculating.

 

well but the whole point is yeah... we don't really know... but shit if we all did once in our life went to school and learned about the A B and C's then we know that heat and cold and metals and shit expanding and all that sorta non sense does make sense. So if you have a cold engine block assuming that is it made of metal and alloy and not some invincible material, I would think the engine block is contracted when it is first started... and then if you mash the pedels and flooring it under normal temperatures, you can have irractic ware patterns in the stoke of the engine rubbing against the wall.... someone clarify because some how i feel like im bullshitting something I don't really know about... juss a feeling im saying the right thing

 

I've read through the owners manual for the TSX a few times and I rememeber there is one statement about warming up the engine.

page 190 column 3

A cold engine uses more fuel than a warm engine. It is not necessary to "warm-up" a cold engine by letting it idle for a long time. You can drive away in about a minute, no matter how cold it is outside. The engine will warm up faster, and you get better fuel economy.

That is the only reference I cold find about warm-ups.

 

Good, that's the routine I follow and I am here in SoCal.

I let the Navi boot up and when I get the OK on the Navi screen then I press it and go.

That seems to be right at the minute mark.