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Old 07-06-2004, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ostrich
If they were the same price, I would go for the TL! For the additional luxury, V6 smoothness and more distinct styling... still, the TSX is a wonderful car already! It's really hard to choose between them...
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Originally Posted by ianS
TSX is made in Japan but TL is US build.....
That's nuff said for me...

TL is an AMERICAN CAR, designed/targeted SPECIFICALLY for American taste...built by Ohioan (this right ?) ...if I want American, I'd rather go for a Caddy.
TSX is, IMO very different in "concept"....designed/targeted for the rest of the developed world: Japan, Europe. To me it has a more subtle, sophisticated aura.

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....But G35 will give me a tough choice. :fingerfawk:
Anyone else thinks G35 interior is porking ugly and pimpish ???
Old 07-06-2004, 07:19 PM
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p.s. - congrats on post no 2000 jcg878
lol - thanks! Didn't even notice

Old 07-06-2004, 08:14 PM
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I would have taken the TL if I had the extra $$, but in no way do I regret buying the TSX.
Old 07-06-2004, 11:55 PM
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The main reason I didn't get the TL was due to price. So I would have gotten a TL if price were no issue... that extra 6k is a lot of money for memory seats, LED lighting, bixenons, and a bigger engine... =oP
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Originally Posted by duugk
I just had the choice, was fortunate enough to be able to afford both, and I came to the same conclusion as Car and Driver. The TSX truly is one of the 10 best all around from value to performance. The TL has a few more toys and a lot more HP but....as C&D eludes to in their latest review, you can only do so much with FWD, if it was the same price and a rear driver, I would have gone with the TL. The TSX has no torque steer that I can detect, the TL, well, lets just say that isn't the case, especially the MT. The final straw for me was the styling, the TL just didn't attract me like the TSX did. (The TL looked to me like a person that needs to lose 20 lbs.)
I too had the luxury of cost not being an issue. The lease difference for this company car that I drive was $50/month, a cost my firm would have absorbed - so there was truly no difference for me. I did all the reading, ran the internet and went to the dealorship prepared to love the TL, and drove the TSX second. It's assets for me were immediate. Handling is tighter (they probably have maxed out what can be done with frontwheel drive as is noted in some of the reviews of this car), the car feels more taut and less yacht-like, more nimble - and frankly, I found the bolstered seats far more receptive for determined driving as well as freeway cruising than the TL's more bulky seats. I'll admit to some sense of loss of power, not the low-end torque that the TL might have. the TL is a nice car on its own merits, and when I get older, perhaps its more formal presenation will be something I will seek (I'm 55............) , but was too stodgy for me, in terms of appearance and handling - I guess I will tumble for handling over sheer power. When this lease is up, maybe the bugs will be shaken out of the TL AWD projected for 2005 and I'll take a second look. The smaller size of the TSX is a major asset, given that much of my driving is done in congested urban settings where navigating some land yacht around becomes really tiring very fast. I've had the car for a week yet, and - in terms of power - it meets the accelleration needs to gain access on Philadelphia's notorious Schuykill Expressway.

And, as for those elsewhere on this thread talking about size - it's my understanding that it is not size that counts, but rather what is done with it - which applies to the TSX as well. It is a compact package that matrixes handling, luxury, ride into one sweet package. understated in presentation.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:04 PM
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I chose the TSX over the TL

TSX.

We test-drove both the TSX and the TL in the last couple of weeks, expecting to prefer the TL, and considering doing a deal on one. And yes, the TL did have exhilerating power, but my wife and I both very much disliked it's ride and handling compared with the TSX. And since we're coming from a compact car anyway, the TSX does not disappoint us in terms of roominess. In fact the TL felt too big. We pick up our new TSX tomorrow!
Old 07-10-2005, 08:17 PM
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i had the money for the TL but when i saw that the TSX had so much to offer for a cheaper price i went with the TSX the Tl is a little to big and i would guess not as good on gas as the TSX with the 4 I still love just abot all the acuras there all nice. so my vote goes to the TSX
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TL

260HP

In truth, I never test drove the TL because it was out of my price range so I can't say first hand which one drives better. But I do love my TSX. Once I get hondatafied I don't think I'll need any more horsepower.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
TL

260HP

In truth, I never test drove the TL because it was out of my price range so I can't say first hand which one drives better. But I do love my TSX. Once I get hondatafied I don't think I'll need any more horsepower.
Did it drop for 06? Its 270.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Did it drop for 06? Its 270.
Wasn't it 260HP for 2004? That's when I was shopping.

If not then I'm again.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:34 PM
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:35 PM
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i've driven my dad's TL for about 4 months and LOVE it. I can't wait until i get my TSX. but i've driven a TSX on a test drive and still like the TL, but i can't go against my car so i choose the TSX. then again the TL gives you that extra boost when u need it on the highway....
Old 07-10-2005, 08:36 PM
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TL - liked power, bluetooth.

TSX - liked interior, proportions, made in Japan pedigree.

Don't really need the power, and I can add BT, so... TSX.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by elduderino
TL - liked power, bluetooth.

TSX - liked interior, proportions, made in Japan pedigree.

Don't really need the power, and I can add BT, so... TSX.
TSX has bluetooth as well
Old 07-10-2005, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
TSX has bluetooth as well
That's news to me. As I've heard, bluetooth will be on the TSX in 2006.

I drove the TL a bit when my dad had it as a loaner a month ago.

This is how I compared the 2:

TSX: smaller, sportier, better interior
TL: faster, bluetooth, but too fast

TL = speeding tickets if I were to get one. That and I come from a 2door prior, so TL is a tad large for me.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by theElio
That's news to me. As I've heard, bluetooth will be on the TSX in 2006.

I drove the TL a bit when my dad had it as a loaner a month ago.

This is how I compared the 2:

TSX: smaller, sportier, better interior
TL: faster, bluetooth, but too fast

TL = speeding tickets if I were to get one. That and I come from a 2door prior, so TL is a tad large for me.
well u may be right, but I thought the TSX with nav had bluetooth
Old 07-10-2005, 08:52 PM
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rear-end on the TL looks a little short, compared to the overall length of the car.

but, i would grab the TL if it were the same price as the TSX.

i'm not a racer, but i would enjoy driving a v6 MT, and i think the TL would be a nice drive.

still, total cost of ownership would be higher i would assume...
Old 07-10-2005, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
well u may be right, but I thought the TSX with nav had bluetooth
Man do I wish...
Old 07-10-2005, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
TSX has bluetooth as well
uhhh... MINE does, but not from the factory. I bet your'n, if it indeed has bluetooth, is not from the factory either. But we installed mine here at the shop : )
Old 07-10-2005, 10:58 PM
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well... both cars have their strong points. I'd be stuck in the middle haha and say SAVE UP AND BUY BOTH lol.

but I like TSX for size, the handling (MOST DEF), styling of the rear end, nice color options (ABP w/ ebony...even though i got NBP w/ ebony lol), Japanese build quality, gauge styling, and the Smoothness.

TL for that POWER, the bluetooth, 5.1 audio system, the cool silver navi button, and the nice aluminum knobs, and front legroom.

FYI yes I have driven both ;] I jack my friends TL all the time mwahah
Old 07-11-2005, 12:38 AM
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i actually think the TSX is better designed inside and out. it's cleaner and crisper in design. i never liked tat line tat runs along the TL's side. thats y i never looked at the TL except at the autoshow. and those front overhangs do seem longer in that car. but if money wasn't a concern, i guess i'd go for a TL for the better quality materials and V6, and hands free bluetooth...

but design wise, i'd pick TSX as the better car
Old 07-11-2005, 01:51 AM
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I would get the TSX so i could do my JDM Euro R conversion all over again!
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I voted TSX without hesitation. I've driven a friend's TL a few times and I find myself isolated much more from the experience of driving the car. Sure, it accelerates in a straight line more forcefully, but at least for me that doesn't make it more fun. It's so easy to just accelerate quickly; give me $32k, a '68 Camaro, and a big block and I'll have you running low 11's -- bluetooth, navi, dvd-audio and all. It's a lot harder to find a car that is refined, smooth, poised, and has that smile factor on those occasions when you're not accelerating from a stoplight.

I could very easily have bought the TL but it isn't at all what I want. I may be 38, but I'm not old enough to need a luxury sedan as much as a luxurious 4-dr sports car. TSX for me, don't care what you say.
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Old 07-11-2005, 09:33 AM
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He must be mad at us, no response
Old 07-11-2005, 09:35 AM
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TSX hands down.

Love the TL, money aint a factor, I would have bought something else if I wanted to spend TL $$.

NO OTHER CAR IS BETTER THAN THE TSX VALUE!!!
Old 07-11-2005, 09:42 AM
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TL. get a new suspension set-up and there goes the handling then again, not too sure since it's built in the U.S.
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Just a few mods can get the TL to handle better. hehe
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isnt the TL built in Ohio or something and the TSX in Japan?
Old 07-11-2005, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by stphy32
isnt the TL built in Ohio or something and the TSX in Japan?

That sounds correct. I know TL is built in the U.S. and TSX in Japan, but I don't know exactly where in the U.S. the TL is built.

I would still pick a TSX if the price were the same. I have always liked smaller cars that handle well.
Old 07-11-2005, 11:59 AM
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Yes, the TL's are built in Marysville, OH (outside of Columbus) at their HUGE Honda plant.
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Love my TSX. If the TSX came in a V6, then the TL would have no advantage whatsoever.
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Money wasn't an issue for my choice and I still chose the TSX. Although the TL has 270 hp stock, HP is really overrated when measuring an enjoyable driving experience. When I drove the 6-spd TL, I felt too much torque steer, boat-like handling, and a car too frequently seen in Orange County.

My previous car was an Acura Integra, which was a complete joy to drive. The TSX allowed me to salvage some of that feeling with more class.

K24 + Hondata > J32
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I vote for TSX mostly due to it's styling. I have absoutely no love for the new TL styling.
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let's be honest here for chrissake. if money wasn't a factor, i'd get a porsche tt or something. better yet, an E39 M5
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lets put it this way, my budget was way over what the TSX and TL cost... I still got a TSX

Welcome to 2003 by the way
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He must be mad at us, no response
Holy old thread Batman...I miss the old post whore sometimes
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Originally Posted by Titan30
I vote for TSX mostly due to it's styling. I have absoutely no love for the new TL styling.
The current TL has always looked kind of ugly to me. I think that I've identified why. It's the vertical crease(s) that runs the length of the car on each side. Very tasteless and unnecessary—the TL would look much sleeker without that design cue. Btw, I would rather pay more for a TSX than take a TL.
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TSX is more fun, plain and simple.


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