TSX for a Honda Accord?
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TSX for a Honda Accord?
Hi,
Newbie to the forum here! I have a 2004 Accord V6 that I'm seriously thinking of replacing with an 07 TSX. Appreciate any input to help me make my decision.
thanks!
Newbie to the forum here! I have a 2004 Accord V6 that I'm seriously thinking of replacing with an 07 TSX. Appreciate any input to help me make my decision.
thanks!
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Originally Posted by rlitiatc
Hi,
Newbie to the forum here! I have a 2004 Accord V6 that I'm seriously thinking of replacing with an 07 TSX. Appreciate any input to help me make my decision.
thanks!
Newbie to the forum here! I have a 2004 Accord V6 that I'm seriously thinking of replacing with an 07 TSX. Appreciate any input to help me make my decision.
thanks!
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i think i prefer the luxury, stylings, and subtle sportiness of the TSX over the accord, even if the accord is a V6. frankly, i think the past few generations of accords are just ugly.
a friend of mine told me that the new accord coupe looks pretty good if you get aftermarket rims and lower it. still, i'd rather stick w/ my acura.
a friend of mine told me that the new accord coupe looks pretty good if you get aftermarket rims and lower it. still, i'd rather stick w/ my acura.
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The Accord has the advantage of more power/torque and a cheaper price (2004 Accord vs. 2007 TSX). You’re not going to lose anything by keeping the Accord; but, you not going to know what you are missing until you have a TSX.
A lot of cars sound very similar on paper (features, safety, price, performance, luxury) and there are always one or two features on one car not available on another. The only feature we are living without is a V-6/turbo option. At the same time, we love getting very good gas mileage with pump prices at +$3.30 for 91 octane. I average 28 mpg in combined driving (60% hwy) in my TSX which is more than my 2.2L 97 Accord LX I-4.
You ride in an Accord, You drive an Acura TSX.
A lot of cars sound very similar on paper (features, safety, price, performance, luxury) and there are always one or two features on one car not available on another. The only feature we are living without is a V-6/turbo option. At the same time, we love getting very good gas mileage with pump prices at +$3.30 for 91 octane. I average 28 mpg in combined driving (60% hwy) in my TSX which is more than my 2.2L 97 Accord LX I-4.
You ride in an Accord, You drive an Acura TSX.
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Test drive the tsx, and see how you like it personally the look was alot better and sleek compared to mazda 6 and everyone has a damn accord i don't want to be a family driver, i'm young the abp tsx is my preference right now.
I always was a fan of those 03-05 accord coupes
I always was a fan of those 03-05 accord coupes
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Originally Posted by rlitiatc
Hi,
Newbie to the forum here! I have a 2004 Accord V6 that I'm seriously thinking of replacing with an 07 TSX. Appreciate any input to help me make my decision.
thanks!
Newbie to the forum here! I have a 2004 Accord V6 that I'm seriously thinking of replacing with an 07 TSX. Appreciate any input to help me make my decision.
thanks!
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Accord has it all w/power & room at the tops. Though the TSX smaller & less HPs, has more refinement & originality than the sea of accords. If U can sacrifice HP & room 4 more refinement & exclusiveness, then by all means invest in another fabulous car by honda.
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Thank you! I just had a talk with a friend last night who has a tsx and he absolutely loves it. At this point of the major selling points for me is the 30+ mpg versus the 22 that I'm getting with accord v6. I also do like the refinement of the tsx. The hp is not too much of a concern for me as I'm a pretty laid back driver (I have been called the Perry Como of drivers at times).
I have a couple of questions though: my accord is a rolling creakmobile. Between the rattling glovebox to the creaking windows that have to be retreated every six months - I just turn up the xm to cover it up. Is the tsx any different? Also, for those of you with kids in boosters, is the rear roomy enough for a booster? Again, thanks to you all for your input!
I have a couple of questions though: my accord is a rolling creakmobile. Between the rattling glovebox to the creaking windows that have to be retreated every six months - I just turn up the xm to cover it up. Is the tsx any different? Also, for those of you with kids in boosters, is the rear roomy enough for a booster? Again, thanks to you all for your input!
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I get some supension noise in my TSX, and there are issues with tight fault tolerances. There is so little space between the gaskets and the sunroofs, that a bit of dirt gets in there and then you can get creaking noises.
FYI: Consumer Reports found that the TSX gets about the same MPG on PREMIUM that the Accord V6 gets on REGULAR (I think it was like one mpg different). So, I'm not sure that is a selling point.
The so called power problems in the TSX are an illusion. It has enough pull for about 95% of my regular driving, and I have a heavy foot.
FYI: Consumer Reports found that the TSX gets about the same MPG on PREMIUM that the Accord V6 gets on REGULAR (I think it was like one mpg different). So, I'm not sure that is a selling point.
The so called power problems in the TSX are an illusion. It has enough pull for about 95% of my regular driving, and I have a heavy foot.
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The earlier 04/05 models had a few more creaks and rattles along with a few technical issues. I had my 06 for +12 months with +13,000 on the odo and the only issue I’ve had was a bouncy hood at 75 mph on the hwy (fixed under warranty). My car is completely stock (Acura mods only) except for aftermarket rims. Acura/Honda does a very good job on correcting quality/technical issues on 3rd & 4th model year cars because issues cost them money on a long 4yr/50,000 mile standard warranty. This is biggest reason I’m waiting until the 3rd or 4th model year of the all new TSX before I decide to upgrade to another vehicle.
My son’s shoes always left dirt on the seat and left the back of passenger seat scuff up and dirty. I would recommend a blanket under the booster seat and moving the passenger seat up to keep the little one from kicking it. There is plenty of room for two booster seats; but not enough room for one extra person to be comfortable back there.
My son’s shoes always left dirt on the seat and left the back of passenger seat scuff up and dirty. I would recommend a blanket under the booster seat and moving the passenger seat up to keep the little one from kicking it. There is plenty of room for two booster seats; but not enough room for one extra person to be comfortable back there.
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About the mpg . . . how can a 4 cylinder have the same mpg as a v6? I actually get around 24 when I use premium in my accord. I get a crappy 20/21 when i use regular . . . .
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Originally Posted by rlitiatc
About the mpg . . . how can a 4 cylinder have the same mpg as a v6? I actually get around 24 when I use premium in my accord. I get a crappy 20/21 when i use regular . . . .
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Originally Posted by rlitiatc
About the mpg . . . how can a 4 cylinder have the same mpg as a v6? I actually get around 24 when I use premium in my accord. I get a crappy 20/21 when i use regular . . . .
CR got 23 MPG overall in the TL and the exact same number in the TSX. Its not at all unusual for an efficient V6 to do as well as a high-compression 4-cyl.
I don't think you are going to do better than 24 overall in a TSX. In fact, I think you will be lucky to get that. So, my feeling is that switching to a TSX is not going to improve your fule economy much.
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
that is still not very good. My mom's accord v-6 gets between 25-27 mpg using regular gas and our tsx gets between 33-36 mpg also using regular. Our gas mileage actually went down with premium so we stick with the regular. No lack of power.
The TSX does not get anywhere near 33 MPG overall. It might get 33 MPG on the highway but probably not 36.
You should not see a decrease in gas milage with premium. That doesn't make sense. Regular will lead the knock sensor to impeded firing which would decrease the efficiency of the engine.
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It comes down to:
TSX 3350 lbs X 164 lbs of tq = 23/31 5AT mpgs
TL 3600 lbs X 233 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
V6 Accord 3400 lbs X 211 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
The TSX is a heavy car and the I-4 works a little harder to get the TSX going compared to its V-6 brothers.
I've never average below 24 mpg in my TSX except for short trips in a lot of traffic. Many owners average 25-29 mpgs on combined driving and 32-38 mpgs on the hwy. TSX hates city driving; it wants to be on the open twisty road at +5000 rpms.
If you want basic transportation, good MPGs, and straight line acceleration - V6 Accord 100%
Anything else - TSX
TSX 3350 lbs X 164 lbs of tq = 23/31 5AT mpgs
TL 3600 lbs X 233 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
V6 Accord 3400 lbs X 211 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
The TSX is a heavy car and the I-4 works a little harder to get the TSX going compared to its V-6 brothers.
I've never average below 24 mpg in my TSX except for short trips in a lot of traffic. Many owners average 25-29 mpgs on combined driving and 32-38 mpgs on the hwy. TSX hates city driving; it wants to be on the open twisty road at +5000 rpms.
If you want basic transportation, good MPGs, and straight line acceleration - V6 Accord 100%
Anything else - TSX
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Originally Posted by darth62
The TSX does not get anywhere near 33 MPG overall. It might get 33 MPG on the highway but probably not 36.
You should not see a decrease in gas milage with premium. That doesn't make sense. Regular will lead the knock sensor to impeded firing which would decrease the efficiency of the engine.
You should not see a decrease in gas milage with premium. That doesn't make sense. Regular will lead the knock sensor to impeded firing which would decrease the efficiency of the engine.
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Whuh?
Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
as much as I love my tsx I would suggest you test-drive the tsx and you decide. My mom has a accord v6 and personally I think my tsx is alot better (a more comfortable riding car especially on long distance drives) Her car is automatic and mine is manual so really can not compare that. You decide-you will be the one driving it. I also feel the tsx has enough power-just got back from a 6,177 mile trip
Hmm, I couldn't refrain from asking. Did you do a roundtrip from NYC to LA with a few stops along the way??
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Hmm, I couldn't refrain from asking. Did you do a roundtrip from NYC to LA with a few stops along the way??
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
if you know anything about how the EFI worked there are enough sensors on that system that will prevent knocking. we have owned two turbo cars that recommended premium gas. the 1991 Mazda Mx-6 gt had over 250,000 miles on it and our 1998 eagle talon tsi awd had over 100,000 miles when we sold them. The both had the original turbo's, engine, transmission, clutch and performed excellant using regular (no knock). Our tsx has almost 16,000 miles on it and performs excellant with regular. we do not red-line it. AND YES WE AVERAGE 32-33 MPG AND WE DID GET ALMOST 36 MPG ON THE HIGHWAY. BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT BUT THAT IS WHAT WE GET.
I believe that you could average 32- 33 MPG on the highway ONLY and sometimes hit 36. If you are suggesting that "average" includes highway and city, than you are full of it.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
It comes down to:
TSX 3350 lbs X 164 lbs of tq = 23/31 5AT mpgs
TL 3600 lbs X 233 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
V6 Accord 3400 lbs X 211 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
The TSX is a heavy car and the I-4 works a little harder to get the TSX going compared to its V-6 brothers.
I've never average below 24 mpg in my TSX except for short trips in a lot of traffic. Many owners average 25-29 mpgs on combined driving and 32-38 mpgs on the hwy. TSX hates city driving; it wants to be on the open twisty road at +5000 rpms.
If you want basic transportation, good MPGs, and straight line acceleration - V6 Accord 100%
Anything else - TSX
TSX 3350 lbs X 164 lbs of tq = 23/31 5AT mpgs
TL 3600 lbs X 233 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
V6 Accord 3400 lbs X 211 lbs of tq = 20/29 5AT mpgs
The TSX is a heavy car and the I-4 works a little harder to get the TSX going compared to its V-6 brothers.
I've never average below 24 mpg in my TSX except for short trips in a lot of traffic. Many owners average 25-29 mpgs on combined driving and 32-38 mpgs on the hwy. TSX hates city driving; it wants to be on the open twisty road at +5000 rpms.
If you want basic transportation, good MPGs, and straight line acceleration - V6 Accord 100%
Anything else - TSX
Don't get me wrong - I love my TSX and would buy it again over either the TL or Accord. But, I didn't make my choice because of fuel economy. I picked my TSX because it looks great, handles well, is comfortable as heck, and puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it. Those are the reasons to buy a TSX - the supposed fuel savings are an illusion.
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