Newplay1

With G35 its more like 12-16citys and 19-highways...

Here is another pic of 2007 G35 Sedan.

frescagod

i'm amazed at the number of people who say their TSX is better than ______ because it gets 21/29 and _______ only gets 19/26. seriously, that's like an additional 30 miles for your TSX tank over the other car. that comes to, what, $3 more every 2 weeks? honestly, the TSX is no better around town than other V6s i've driven. i only get about 22 mpg around town, and i drive very gently. as others have said, highway can yield numbers around 30-35, depending on a lot of factors. i myself have achieved 34 on a 370 mile trek from DC to upstate new york, but i utilized cruise the entire time. you can get 30+ with a 3-series and probably come close with the beloved G35.

i'd have to say i'm with some of the other people on here, in that the G35 coupe is sexy as hell. the sedan on the other hand looks blahhhhhh

Newplay1

More inviting than the old cockpit, this one is furnished with attractive materials, electroluminescent gauges, a high-tech audio system and a push-button ignition.

This isn't just last year's five-speed automatic — it now has downshift rev-matching and a yaw rate sensor so it holds gears through turns.

chuson

1. Since the G is about 10K more than TSX, it shouldn't be compare directly
2. Also consider FWD VS RWD. I prefer RWD more, but would have some trouble during the winter w/ snow.
3. The best V6 VS. the best l-4 cyclinder... hm...
4. G is sooo sexy... Exterior and Interior, I hope they use better material than the current G. And fix ALL the rattling problems

Wait, why did I all these??? Can't resist...

paranode

Gas mileage was a huge factor in my decision-making, thus making the TSX stand out above others.

frescagod

so, 21/29 for the TSX is more favorable than....20/27 for the G35? http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/18534.shtml

barely, and if you're buying a $28-35k car, i don't see how a couple bucks a week can be the dealbreaker for you. if you drove your TSX in a [real] city, in a manner identical to the G35, you'd be getting 17 or 18mpg.

TallyCL-S

BusyShifter

Actually, I got 27.4 mpg OVERALL for the first 10,000 miles in my TSX. I am hoping I will be in the range fo 29 mpg overall for the 2nd 10,000 miles. For whatever it is worth, I feel pretty good about getting those numbers.

dom

In 3+ years of ownership I've never seen worse than 24MPG.

BusyShifter

Oh, and yes, I happen to be in Los Angeles -- where most would consider as a "[real] city".

dalieu

The TSX is a better choice for me because it helps me save as much as I can while at the same time giving me the luxury feeling I want. Were you also one of those ppl who said, "it's just 10 more cents a gallon." If you look at the little pic, that's fine, calculate 10cents/gallon per tank per year. That's what "just 10cents" can cost you a year (if gas didn't increase through out that year).

According to you, I'll save $3 every 2 weeks, that's fine by me... $3 every 2 weeks into a saving accounts with 4.25% interest... But you forget, gas prices has always gone up... So maybe next year I'll be saving $4 every 2 weeks? Still fine by me.

Ppl have different want and needs. Some ppl want better gas mileage, some want power. The "better gas mileage" logic is as good as "the G35 outputs 280hp it's better than the TSX" or "my car is RWD it is better than your FWD." Better is what is better for you.

In the end, im cheap but like to drive nice cars. I don't want a $35k car that is going to make me spend more at the pump. I like to live by the "every penny counts" rule, too bad my gf doesn't.

Mokos23

dalieu, I think it's time to find a better girl then dude

jpt

Is that 24MPG imp (20mpg us)?

Newplay1

Ok enough with gas talk hehe, who likes the 2007 style? I'm going this wknd to jacob Javit center / NYC auto show to check it out..

dom

Big Meh...

dom

US. I always convert so you idiots will understand.

sauceman

Nuff said.

paranode

Well for one thing '06 TSX is 22/30 (31 auto) and '06 G35 is 19/26, but yeah that's not a huge difference. However I'm not heavy into power so I didn't see the reason to pay thousands more. It's loaded with features too, making it a very practical and economic car (in the luxury class) in the mid-20s.

DjElucid

If you want power, just purchase the TSX and ask the dealer to install the supercharger for you. I think it's out for the 06.... or isn't it?

the supercharger will put you up to about 255 i think?

JKWright

Well, technically I own the '05 G35 6MT and the wife owns the '06 TSX 6MT Navi, but I think the cars are comparable in many ways. Power is not one of them of course. Neither is the platform, i.e. RWD versus FWD. But they're both about the same size inside and out and both are a ball to drive.

I mentioned this in a post when we first bought the TSX a few weeks ago, but the TSX is an engineer's wet dream. Everything about it just oozes precision, from the feel of the control stalks to the ergonomics to the silky-smooth rev of the big Four. The G35 is more of a luxury mallet. It's bold and in-your-face, and makes no apologies for some of its rough edges -- the baritone growl of the 298-horse Six, the clomp over expansion joints from the 45-series 18" summer tires, the overt feedback from the direct-connected shifter.

They're different as night and day. But they're both sport sedans in the end, their prices aren't too far off each other to make comparisons invalid (only three grand separated our cars), and they're both bulletproof Japanese designs. You do pay at the pump for the extra 93 horsepower in the G35, though. I get around 20 mpg in that car in a 50/50 mix of city highway (maybe a little more city), while we've been getting 26 mpg in the TSX. It's enough to notice. But the G35 doesn't run around getting 14 mpg. Never been anywhere near that in my car, and we drive it pretty hard.

As far as the '07 G35 goes, I'm already dying inside. I want that car.

feliz

Exactly, and the same with the RSX, it's a last generation Civic and has been left behind.

Acuras have never been about power and we all new that when we bought one, although it was embarrasing when my friend's son beat my TSX with his Mazda3.

I think Honda's strategy of sticking with small displacement front drive cars works with entry level go to the market cars but it's hurting them in the upscale market. Am I the only one that thinks the RL would sell a few with a decent V8?

Benz_05_TSX

iTrader: (1)

Sweet, after seeing the concept of the G, i am in love!!

I was gonna get the G or Z before the TSX, but...too much power for a noob driver and TSX interior is nicer! SO i've always wanted to G35c...now it's my chance!

I love the G man..

ninjamyst

Mazda3 beating a TSX?? Now that's really really really really really really sad.....

vidgamer

Mazda3? I test drove that too... It didn't feel as fast. Hmm. (Wait, can the two cars be compared? )

jpt

As it should have been... were you even trying to race him? The TSX (at least the 2006) should neatly blow the doors off a 3i and should pretty easily beat even a 3s.

Newplay1

I don't know why not make a new thread right next to "TSX vs My uncle's Ferrari".

vidgamer

Not that you were necessarily implying this, but this popped into my head: the G35 does not a Ferrari make.

Maybe it sounds nutty, but I test drove a G35, Mazda 3, and a TSX (and a couple of others) on my recent test drives. As someone else mentioned, Honda/Acura makes great balanced cars. Not the best drag racer, but the TSX is all around fun to drive.

About milage, I usually get a lot better than 24 MPG, but then a lot of my "in town" driving is still on the highway. (Although, it has traffic, accident slow-downs, etc., so it's not the same as regular highway milage.) If you talk to people with big engines in their cars, well, they'll love to quote you a theoretical highway milage, but press them on what they really get -- in-city, it might be 19, 16, whatever, in the real world. I'm sure that if I drove a G35, I wouldn't be getting 25-26, even if the EPA numbers sound similar.

Having said that, I don't think I'd let gas milage get in my way. At $3/gal, 12,000 miles would cost $2250 for 16mpg and $1383 for 26mpg (just to pull numbers out of the air). Just $867 difference! Hmm, wait, maybe I should let that get in the way.... You could get an extra mod a year with that difference. The thing is, gas didn't seem quite as expensive a few months ago when I got my TSX, but saving gas sounds like a good idea, all else being equal....

yukit

Yes, I believe this is the way to go. I grew up driving < 150HP cars, so TSX was a big step up. My wife will drive the TSX. I will get a new G35 or Lexus IS.

BTW, I find this forum to be much more objective than other forums talking about the new G35. Hence I am posting here.

JWBacura

Guys I love all your comments and I have had a TXS from 04 and have Hondata, Cold air intake, and all the rest. Drive the car as a Rgional Sales manager 30K a year and LOVE the car. But it needs more power and the G35 is better 07 to 06 TSX. Hopefully Honda will get the message and improve the power of the TSX. They started high on the curve and now others have caught up and passed them. Honda will come back I am sure.

JKWright

I think so. If the preliminary horsepower and torque figures for the RDX are anywhere close to what rolls out of the factory, that's proof enough that Honda/Acura is aware of the power deficiency. They're not willing to challenge Infiniti and some of the other luxury marques directly in the power game it seems -- the FX35 for one puts 280 horsepower to the crank, and that crossover SUV is about as direct a competitor for the RDX as you'll find.

But Honda is at least willing to move into the ballpark. Witness the Accord V6, Odyssey, Pilot, MDX and TL. In the Acura lineup, only the RL and TSX get shorted in the engine bay IMHO. The TSX needs a little V6 -- maybe three liters and 230 to 250 horsepower with at least 200 pound-feet of torque -- to compete on power properly in the entry-level near-luxury segment. And the RL is just too much car at $55K-plus to settle for a 3.5-liter V6, 300 horsepower or no. The M45 will beat it up badly at a similar price, and even the M35 competes well at a significant price savings.

One last note: It was a true 95 degrees yesterday in Dallas (set a record) and we took the TSX on a 45-mile drive to the in-laws for Easter. With the A/C blowing full blast and the less-dense hot air flowing through the intake, the car was kinda weak. Even my father-in-law commented on it as he took the car for a test drive, and he loves Hondas (he's had two Odysseys). "It's almost as fast as my ['92 Dodge] Colt [5-speed]," he cracked. Oh well.

But hey, if you buy a TSX to beat anybody at a stoplight you're a fool. Still love it.

vitocorleone

Butt-racing the TSX will always* feel slow because of the torque curve. Or do you mean that you used to give it half gas and cruise up a hill at 60mph but suddently you had to floor it etc.?

G: I might've actually considered the new sedan. I think every Nissan and Infiniti are unattractive to bordering on ugly except for the M and the G35c (which, while attractive, is still gimmicky-attractive to me). I prefer conservative stylin that tends to age better.

TSX "underpowered": I don't understand why people bought this car and then say it's underpowered when the level of power was clear from reviews, the numbers on the spec sheet and a test drive. Wishful thinking? I drive an stock '04 automatic (except for yoko v4s) and it has always had plenty of power for me... and I still beat most cars off the line when necessary (not racing, but if my lane ends ahead etc.) because it's more a matter of paying attention to the light and the weather and traffic conditions than the hp under the hood. I can also usually blow by people on two-lane on-ramps, up hill even, because it has plenty of power (for me) and great handling.

* Ok, so mayb some mods change this, but I wouldn't know

JKWright

What I mean is the car is slow. Like an eight-second-to-60-car with the A/C on in 95 degree heat. Probably closer to nine seconds with the 5AT in those conditions. I think it's safe to say that when Odyssey minivans, RAV4 cheapie SUVs and pickup trucks of all shapes and sizes can leave you choking dust from a stoplight without even trying you're not driving a fast car. (In a straight line that is. If you can keep those vehicles in sight as they enter the twisties, you'll catch right up to 'em.)

Everyone here knows the TSX is slow in a straight line. This is not a secret, and there's nothing wrong its relative slowness unless you want to challenge Hemi Durangos on a daily basis. (Or Accord V6s. Or '07 Camry V6s. Or possibly '07 Camry Hybrids. Or certainly Accord Hybrids. You get the idea.) The car has so many other positive virtues that it's barely an issue for my wife and I. If it was, we sure wouldn't have bought the car.