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Old 09-02-2006, 12:47 PM
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Test Drove "other" car last night

My girl is convinced she wants a VW and won't consider any Japanese cars...so I said OK hun lets go test drive some Jettas and the like. For the record, I bought my mint '04MT Navi w/ body kit and 30k miles for $22k. So when she drove the $21k Jetta 2.5 she was like..."wow...you did real good" with the Acura. ;-) ...she had a tough time enjoying the VW because she is used to my car.

I know that the Jetta lists for 7k to 9k less than the TSX, but it was a nice feeling to see first hand where the money goes. The Jetta dash controls are cheap feeling, the seats uncomfortable, the engine sound is somehow not smooth and reassuring, the stereo is miserable...some stuff was cool and innovative...something that is nearly always absent in the Honda realm as we know...but overall it was a cheap feeling car.

Now I guess I have to drive an A4 and see how that stands up. When I drove an '04 I remember being unimpressed with it...then I drove the TSX and snapped it righ t up.

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Which stuff was cool and innovative in the VW?
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Nothing was cool and innovative.
Old 09-05-2006, 08:19 PM
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i got my 05 tsx AT with 14k miles in march 06 for $23.5
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my sister had an 01 jetta and I hated it with a passion...felt tinny to me

I really like the way they are marketing the front side impact ratings of the jetta (where it nails the pickup backing out of the driveway); thought that was one of the best car commercials I have ever seen.
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My sister has a 2002 Jetta and it has been a warrenty whore. New tranny (auto) within 20,000 miles. The windows dropped into the door from broken clips (apparently an issue that has occured on many jetta's). The brake sensor failed making it nearly impossible to get the car into drive (and doesn't light the tail lights). It has been terrible. They may make the interiors very luxurious for their price range, but I would never ever consider a VW or Audi product again.
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Sure those are catchy commercials, but did you notice how it states the Jetta has a four star frontal crash rating? TSX? Five star. It's like VW is shouting "Hey! Look at us we're almost as good as everyone else!"
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^^ your are 100% right, not that I doubted you, but those commercials are pretty misleading

the 06 tsx got unbelievable ratings... http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...341/index.html

while as you said the jetta did not as well
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...847/index.html

great marketing
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I traded my 2001 Jetta 2.0 for my 2006 TSX and haven't looked back since. To sum it up, here's the pros and cons of owning a VW (still own a 2002 Passat 1.8T):

Pros
The cars have an "aura" about them that's undeniable
Fun to drive factor, only on the turbo model's
Fit & finish is next to none, goes for both Audi and VW
Contain nifty engineering, the sunroof dial comes to mind first here
Quality of leather interior is superior
VW/Audi community is a tight-knit, helpful bunch of people

Cons
Service department will know your first, middle and last name and your VIN # by heart
VW's are notorious for rattles
Accumulated a lot of "recall" notices for small and large items (window motors in doors, coilpacks in engine, electronic issues, etc.)
You don't want the VW service dept. to know your name because more than likely, they'll treat you like crap anyways (uncustomer focused)
Was never once 100% sure the car would get me from Point A to Point B on long road trips
Jetta = Feminine design
Old 09-05-2006, 11:12 PM
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just break up with her, because if you get the VW you will have another relationship to support, the service manager...

i have never heard anything good about a VW in terms of it being reliable or low maintence...

also thanks to with their ad campaign i feel that they get into accidents a lot...
Old 09-06-2006, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by savage
just break up with her, because if you get the VW you will have another relationship to support, the service manager...

i have never heard anything good about a VW in terms of it being reliable or low maintence...

also thanks to with their ad campaign i feel that they get into accidents a lot...

LOL....I agree with that. I have hear that VW's are one of the few unreliable vehicles.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
Which stuff was cool and innovative in the VW?
Not so secret umbrella holder in VW..
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Don't even consider a VW. I just had mine bought back under the Lemon Law after 5 months of owning it. It was an 06 GTI. I liked the car, but it was in the shop for a total of 27 days when I owned it. They replaced the cam shaft adjuster, fuel injector, and ignition coil. After all that, it still broke down on me.
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Originally Posted by Knox
I traded my 2001 Jetta 2.0 for my 2006 TSX and haven't looked back since. To sum it up, here's the pros and cons of owning a VW (still own a 2002 Passat 1.8T):

Pros
The cars have an "aura" about them that's undeniable
Fun to drive factor, only on the turbo model's
Fit & finish is next to none, goes for both Audi and VW
Contain nifty engineering, the sunroof dial comes to mind first here
Quality of leather interior is superior
VW/Audi community is a tight-knit, helpful bunch of people

Cons
Service department will know your first, middle and last name and your VIN # by heart
VW's are notorious for rattles
Accumulated a lot of "recall" notices for small and large items (window motors in doors, coilpacks in engine, electronic issues, etc.)
You don't want the VW service dept. to know your name because more than likely, they'll treat you like crap anyways (uncustomer focused)
Was never once 100% sure the car would get me from Point A to Point B on long road trips
Jetta = Feminine design
I think Knox mentioned the PROS and CONS perfectly. And it's true that the VWs or even the Audis have some sort of "aura" in them. The VW (or other Euro cars) cars give you feeling that cannot be found on any Japanese or American cars. It's just a tighter feeling and better bond between the driver and the car. Why did I get a TSX? TSX is pretty complete I would say. I lose the feeling, but hell I gain everything else and it was a good deal! I couldn't stand myself seeing the Service Manager every week telling him wht just f*cked up again and how much I need to pay.
Old 09-06-2006, 02:11 PM
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I might have be investing in a VW next year. My wife REALLY likes the new VW Eos that's about to release. Its a coupe, hardtop convertible. I guess we'll take it for a spin. I mean, i guess its fine as a "girl" car. Might be fun with the retractable hard top....i guess.
Old 09-06-2006, 02:32 PM
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i stayed away from vw because i just saw too many involved in accidents on tv.
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"Jetta = Feminine design"

that just says it all about VW and especially the jetta..... to me at least

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Originally Posted by Zeeshan
I might have be investing in a VW next year. My wife REALLY likes the new VW Eos that's about to release. Its a coupe, hardtop convertible. I guess we'll take it for a spin. I mean, i guess its fine as a "girl" car. Might be fun with the retractable hard top....i guess.
To me, paying $30K+ for a first year, yet to be quality proven hardtop convertible with a VW emblem on it is about as crazy as I've seen or heard in a while. First, I can only justify paying $30K+ for the Passat or Phaeton, other than that, forget it. Lastly, it's $30K+ people! That's obsurd when you consider the alternatives (Mustang Convertible, S2000, Mazda MX-5, etc).
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I take it you're not married?
Old 09-06-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeeshan
I take it you're not married?
Engaged so almost. My fiance is smart enough to know that a $30K+ VW that has no track record of being "quality" made isn't worth the risk or the money. Heck, even if the car had been out for 20 years with a good track record, I still wouldn't fork over that much. You simply don't get enough.
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Don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feel free to PM me if you want to know why. VW is the devil.

Esp -- please don't buy a 2006 VW -- major issues.
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Originally Posted by WECoyote13
So when she drove the $21k Jetta 2.5 she was like..."wow...you did real good" with the Acura. ;-) ...she had a tough time enjoying the VW because she is used to my car.

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Don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feel free to PM me if you want to know why. VW is the devil.

Esp -- please don't buy a 2006 VW -- major issues.
Dude....listen to XJGrl, you'll end up driving your girl's VW Jetta and she'll be driving your TSX!!!
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Originally Posted by XJGrl
Don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feel free to PM me if you want to know why. VW is the devil.

Esp -- please don't buy a 2006 VW -- major issues.
I agree 100%. VW is the DEVIL !!!
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Originally Posted by Knox
Engaged so almost. My fiance is smart enough to know that a $30K+ VW that has no track record of being "quality" made isn't worth the risk or the money. Heck, even if the car had been out for 20 years with a good track record, I still wouldn't fork over that much. You simply don't get enough.
oh my friend...almost doesnt count!!! Wait till you're REALLY married. There will be a lot of compromise. Personally, i dont mind a VW. I dont think i'll buy new though. I'll wait till i can get my hands on a nice used one wholesale.
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