Sportshift with Music cranked is a bad combo!

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Old 03-16-2008, 09:34 AM
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Sportshift with Music cranked is a bad combo!

With my CD player crankin', I forgot I was in Sportshift mode the other day.
What an IDIOT! I sent the RPM's high enough in 1st gear to have the fuel cutoff thanks to the revlimiter. Never heard the engine screamin' due to Pete Yorn blaring.

So I am assuming the engineers have the revlimiter set to kick in before any damage can be done. However, I feel terrible for causing any potential problems. So far there seem to be no noticable ill effects.

What is the consensus on possible damage??

Thanks in advance . . . .
Old 03-16-2008, 11:33 AM
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how do you not notice you're driving around in 1st gear.. is the auto really that slow ..?
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Don't know how you cannot notice it being in first during SS. Even when you let off and go back on it would be jumpy and boggy.

Don't think there'd be much damage, but just don't do it next time.
And FFS, turn your music down.
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How do you not have hearing damage if you have your music up loud enough to completely drown out the engine at those RPMs?
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I never really noticed a problem being in sport shift and not hearing the engine, I guess I always felt by the sensitivity of the gas pedal that I'm in a lower gear than I desire... but I suppose under the right circumstances it can happen.

I wouldn't worry about bouncing off the rev limiter once in a while. If it was THAT dangerous they would but the limit lower. But I also wouldn't bounce off it every time you drive.
Old 03-16-2008, 01:03 PM
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You have an auto, so it's hard to do any damage. Now with a MT, you can mis-shift and send it past the rev limiter....now that would definitely be a screw up.
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what happens when you hit fuel cut-off?
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Originally Posted by Zyuan10
what happens when you hit fuel cut-off?
just that...fuel flow to the engine is cut, the engine sputters until the revs fall and fuel flow is restored.

To the OP, for how long were you at fuel cutoff? How many miles do you have on the odometer? (i.e. brand new?)
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don't worry. the fuel cutoff is there for a reason: to stop the motor revving past a programmed RPM to prevent damage.
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Wow, that sounds crazy. In my Mazda3, whenever I don't SShift in time and I red line it, my car bounces and I *immediately* know I've mis-shifted...I guess the TSX doesn't have that "feature".
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is fuel cut off engaging similar to plain-old running out of gas?

All my friends say running out of gas can mess up an engine...

I guess it would be stupid for Honda to make fuel cut off work like that...
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No. In that situation you suck the crud that's sitting at the bottom of the tank into the engine, potentially plugging small passages or scratching machined surfaces. When the fuel cut off engages, it simply stops supplying gas to the cylinders. The engine produces no more acceleration and the car rapidly loses speed. Once the engine is below the cut off limit, fuel flow is restored. If you're still on the gas you'll very quickly hit the limit again and the process repeats. It's a jarring experience very adequately described as "bouncing" off the limiter.
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Originally Posted by jlukja
just that...fuel flow to the engine is cut, the engine sputters until the revs fall and fuel flow is restored.

To the OP, for how long were you at fuel cutoff? How many miles do you have on the odometer? (i.e. brand new?)
This all happened in a matter of seconds. Accelerated from a stop in first forgetting I was in SS and the stereo kept me from hearing the high revs. The revlimiter kicked in and caused a quick 'sputter' sensation which then I immediately let off and shifted appropriately from then on. Car has 22,000 miles and has driven perfectly since the incident so no worries.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ingraha3
This all happened in a matter of seconds. Accelerated from a stop in first forgetting I was in SS and the stereo kept me from hearing the high revs. The revlimiter kicked in and caused a quick 'sputter' sensation which then I immediately let off and shifted appropriately from then on. Car has 22,000 miles and has driven perfectly since the incident so no worries.

Thanks!
In that case you've got nothing to worry about. That's why the fuel cutoff is there in the first place, to keep you from overrevving the engine. If you were early in your break-in period then there might be a small concern, but you're well past that. Enjoy the car.
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I've never had this problem. You don't need to listen to the car's RPMs, you can feel them thru the pedals and steering wheel. I've never had my music up so loud that I couldn't feel my car ask for an upshift.
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
No. In that situation you suck the crud that's sitting at the bottom of the tank into the engine, potentially plugging small passages or scratching machined surfaces......

Really??? Then what's the fuel filter for?


To the OP: Good thing you don't drive a manual.



( I've done it too. SS + Loud Music - Attention = Rev Limiter. )
Old 03-18-2008, 08:56 PM
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Do the 5MTs not have tachometers or something?
Old 03-18-2008, 11:29 PM
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Your car will be fine, you on the other hand are permanently damaged for having listened to Pete Yorn .
Old 03-18-2008, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nogard13
I've never had this problem. You don't need to listen to the car's RPMs, you can feel them thru the pedals and steering wheel. I've never had my music up so loud that I couldn't feel my car ask for an upshift.
+1

Was going to say the same.
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"loud" is subjective. How high was your volume? I can only stand up to 9...
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Originally Posted by Zyuan10
"loud" is subjective. How high was your volume? I can only stand up to 9...

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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Really??? Then what's the fuel filter for?
Yeah, it's not really a problem anymore like it was back in the day. For one thing, the gas is a lot cleaner if for no other reason than we use a lot more of it and it doesn't spend nearly as much time hanging out in storage tanks. If anything is going to be damaged this way, it's going to be the fuel pump since it's the only mechanical component before the filter.

Still, you're better off just not running out of gas.
Old 03-19-2008, 10:20 AM
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I tend to forget sometimes too but I remember before it hits like 6.... Your not the only dummy on here. Don't worry... And i like having my music real lud too. Past 22 lol.... Dont blame me blame society..(just wanted to say that lol)
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