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Old 08-08-2006, 01:54 PM
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Should've never traded my TSX.....

not sure if any of you remember me but i had a SSM 05 with nav, 18" a spec rims, etc. I got a wild idea this spring that i wanted another truck, what a horrible idea that was so now i'm spending hundreds of dollars a month on gas. Anyways as soon as my truck sells i'm hoping to get another TSX, looking at a white 06 w/o nav which i liked, but never used. Just wanted to let you guys know i i'm coming back and plans for the new car:

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Old 08-08-2006, 02:05 PM
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I hope you find a buyer for your truck! When I was deciding on whether I wanted a car or a truck, my choice was between a TSX and a Tundra and I'm glad I got the TSX.
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I remember you. This is the thread where you posted pics of your truck. You need to revisit that thread so you remember what you didn't like about the TSX (low end torque) that made you go for a truck instead. Maybe there is some happy medium between the two. Look, I'd be great if you got another TSX but I'd hate to see you go back to the original complaints. Maybe a TL is in your future?
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Originally Posted by JoeC1982
not sure if any of you remember me but i had a SSM 05 with nav, 18" a spec rims, etc. I got a wild idea this spring that i wanted another truck, what a horrible idea that was so now i'm spending hundreds of dollars a month on gas. Anyways as soon as my truck sells i'm hoping to get another TSX, looking at a white 06 w/o nav which i liked, but never used. Just wanted to let you guys know i i'm coming back and plans for the new car:

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I hear ya...

Especially with gas prices about to spike again, you don't want a big truck.

RANT: You could always count on the greedy oil companies to use the following excuses:
1. Instability in the Middle East
2. Natural Disaster in U.S. (hurricane Katrina, hurricane X, earthquake, the sun setting, etc)

Since when is either not happening?
Old 08-08-2006, 02:33 PM
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Haha...back in the fold, eh, Joe?

BTW, your A-Spec suspension has been put to good use.
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well i'm hoping the increased power plus the hondata for the 06 will be enough for my power needs. the only other car i was looking at was the jetta gli w/ dsg but i have too many concerns about reliability and maintence costs on them.
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Haha...back in the fold, eh, Joe?

BTW, your A-Spec suspension has been put to good use.
i've got a lot of catching up to do, i see hondata still hasn't come through for the 05 at cars....
Old 08-08-2006, 02:39 PM
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btw no need in pointing out how stupid i am for trading, i'm well aware it was a very costly mistake.
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well i'm hoping the increased power plus the hondata for the 06 will be enough for my power needs. the only other car i was looking at was the jetta gli w/ dsg but i have too many concerns about reliability and maintence costs on them.

i've got a lot of catching up to do, i see hondata still hasn't come through for the 05 at cars....
A hondatafied 06 will definitely have more get-up-and-go. You should read XJgrl's story before you go for the Jetta.
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd
RANT: You could always count on the greedy oil companies to use the following excuses:
1. Instability in the Middle East
2. Natural Disaster in U.S. (hurricane Katrina, hurricane X, earthquake, the sun setting, etc)
They don't use either excuse.

They don't use any excuse.

They use one reason:

1. People are paying it.

It's the only reason they need. If you can sell all your inventory at $3 a gallon, why would you sell it for $2 a gallon?
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What kind of truck do you have?
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Originally Posted by gsrthomas
What kind of truck do you have?
06 Dodge Ram Sport, hemi, lowered, 22's, etc. 16-17mpg on a good day.
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Your Ram must be fast dude cause it's got a hemi, are you sure you want to go back to a iVTEC TSX instead of staying with your hemi powered truck?
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Originally Posted by JoeC1982
not sure if any of you remember me but i had a SSM 05 with nav, 18" a spec rims, etc. I got a wild idea this spring that i wanted another truck, what a horrible idea that was so now i'm spending hundreds of dollars a month on gas. Anyways as soon as my truck sells i'm hoping to get another TSX, looking at a white 06 w/o nav which i liked, but never used. Just wanted to let you guys know i i'm coming back and plans for the new car:

drop
hondata
mugen grill
18's
tint
mild stereo upgrade
Alas, hindsite is always 20/20. My friend sold his STi for a nissan frontier then turned around and bought a WRX a few months later.
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I bet your next thread will be "I should have gotten navi".
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get an STI
Old 08-08-2006, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bufo
I bet your next thread will be "I should have gotten navi".
i can live without it, its nice but i haven't missed it.

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get an STI
too ugly and the mileage on the turbo subaru's isn't that great either.
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Originally Posted by jpt
They don't use either excuse.

They don't use any excuse.

They use one reason:

1. People are paying it.

It's the only reason they need. If you can sell all your inventory at $3 a gallon, why would you sell it for $2 a gallon?


You hit it on the head. However, why don't they just mention that rather than trying to always put a spin on it? WE Americans got us in this mess and there really isn't anything in the works to get us out. I hear the Hybrid Tax break has even been eliminated.

Don't get me started on the stupid "work truck" tax deduction you were once able to use with an H2.
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Originally Posted by JoeC1982
06 Dodge Ram Sport, hemi, lowered, 22's, etc. 16-17mpg on a good day.
Wow, 22" rims and you say you're getting bad gas mileage? Really?
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Wow, 22" rims and you say you're getting bad gas mileage? Really?
i didn't start this thread to get flamed for my decision with the truck, i already know it wasn't smart. however when i bought it there was only a 5 mile commute to work and back. thats changed though and was really out of my control.
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Originally Posted by JoeC1982
i didn't start this thread to get flamed for my decision with the truck, i already know it wasn't smart. however when i bought it there was only a 5 mile commute to work and back. thats changed though and was really out of my control.
Not trying to flame you. Im just saying the truck would get better mileage if you just change your rim size.
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd


You hit it on the head. However, why don't they just mention that rather than trying to always put a spin on it?
Because people go on rants about "greedy oil companies" and put them on the defensive. Corporate PR is BS in every industry.

WE Americans got us in this mess and there really isn't anything in the works to get us out. I hear the Hybrid Tax break has even been eliminated.
I don't really see why we need anything to "get us out" of it. We aren't out of gasoline. People aren't dying because it costs $3.50 a gallon. If the price goes up enough, we'll adjust to it on our own in a matter of a few years as people buy more efficient cars and drive less. The hybrid tax break is more about short-term politics than actual benefit: if hybrids saved enough to be worth buying (like if gas cost $15 a gallon), they wouldn't need a tax break to sell well.
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yeah i know, it didn't do much better with the factory 20's though. here's a couple recent pics....

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Originally Posted by jpt
Because people go on rants about "greedy oil companies" and put them on the defensive. Corporate PR is BS in every industry.


I don't really see why we need anything to "get us out" of it. We aren't out of gasoline. People aren't dying because it costs $3.50 a gallon. If the price goes up enough, we'll adjust to it on our own in a matter of a few years as people buy more efficient cars and drive less. The hybrid tax break is more about short-term politics than actual benefit: if hybrids saved enough to be worth buying (like if gas cost $15 a gallon), they wouldn't need a tax break to sell well.
The cost of fuel will never decrease because as the US begins to drop its demand on it, China increases theirs. So the price of a barrel will continue to increase, unless we find other supply sources...
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Originally Posted by jpt
Because people go on rants about "greedy oil companies" and put them on the defensive. Corporate PR is BS in every industry.

I don't really see why we need anything to "get us out" of it. We aren't out of gasoline. People aren't dying because it costs $3.50 a gallon. If the price goes up enough, we'll adjust to it on our own in a matter of a few years as people buy more efficient cars and drive less. The hybrid tax break is more about short-term politics than actual benefit: if hybrids saved enough to be worth buying (like if gas cost $15 a gallon), they wouldn't need a tax break to sell well.
The amount of profits they make are ridiculous though. Sure people can still survive at $3.50 a gallon, but why should we have to suffer just so that the oil companies can make even more money off of us. Gas is a necessity, and the oil companies know that, and I feel like they are taking advantage of the consumers.
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd
RANT: You could always count on the greedy oil companies to use the following excuses:
greedy? you're joking, right?
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Originally Posted by runner453
greedy? you're joking, right?
And you're joking about him joking, right?
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Originally Posted by runner453
greedy? you're joking, right?
Ooops. A simple grammatical error. "Greedy" should not have been included in the sentence because it's redundant. Greedy is already implied when mentioning oil companies.
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Originally Posted by jpt
The hybrid tax break is more about short-term politics than actual benefit: if hybrids saved enough to be worth buying (like if gas cost $15 a gallon), they wouldn't need a tax break to sell well.
There's nothing wrong with the government nudging the industry to benefit newer technologies like hybrids. For example, take a look at what happened to the auto industry after the CAFE standards were adopted. The average MPG on cars increased by 50%.

An interesting perspective on the gas issue:
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokille.../electric.html

Since you're a fellow engineer, I thought you'd be interested in this piece of info. During my senior year at Cal Poly Pomona, I was part of the EV team on campus and was able to see GM's EV during testing at a local Edison facility. I was even able to take one for a spin. I never viewed electric cars and hybrids the same since.

My bias on this subject runs deep as you can see.
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this is my next car

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lol i was just about to post that. Here's an article written about the roadster from the SF Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...sn=001&sc=1000

It possesses less of a torque curve and more of a torque square. Peak torque at all times, basically.
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If you feel like oil companies are reaping extraordinary profits and are going to spend the next decade having their way with consumers, I have three words for you: buy oil stock. Where were you when oil was $10.35/bbl and oil stocks were getting crucified (dec-08)?

Would you sell your house for $100,000 even though it would go for $200,000?

As for the TSX-to-truck-to-TSX swap, hey, it sounds like you're getting back into a car you'll feel good about. Forget the money, in ten years you won't even remember what the whole thing cost and it will be a funny story to tell your kids.
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Originally Posted by jpt
I don't really see why we need anything to "get us out" of it. We aren't out of gasoline. People aren't dying because it costs $3.50 a gallon..
STFU.. I'm sick of reading comments like this about how "its not that bad" or "all business have to make a profit". Yes the world is running out of oil since its not a unlimited supply ,but all the price spikes that we have anytime anything happens is B.S. Like someone said before any time anything happens theirs always a spike in the price. If some bomb does go off in the middle east, some pipeline break in alaska, or hurricane warning in the gulf. ...we wouldnt even see that gas till it actually makes it to our cars in the next 4-7 months anway.

You take

-pumping it from the ground
-pipelining it to the tanker
-filling the tanker(it takes DAYS to fill them because they are so large)
-Two months on a tanker boat going across the ocean
-tankers are so huge they take sometimes near a week to unload the fuel at port
-it goes into storage tanks
-refining it into gas
-pipelining it to different parts of the country
-storage
-filling up tanker trucks and taking it to the gas station

So thats why people get pissed off that any time there is a hiccup in the world gas prices shoot up 10-15 cents a gallon(if not more). Then as we've seen over the last couple of years prices never go back down to what they were once before the "inccident" happened. Next thing you know price of gas has near doubled from what it was a little over a year ago. Then it doesnt helping hearing on the news that oil companies are pocketing the largest profit margins per quarter in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

So please. STFU.
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Originally Posted by rugbybrado
STFU...Blah blah blah...So please. STFU.
Way off the original topic, granted, but do you guys have any idea how a commodity market works?
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Whoa, all this fighting about gas...go write it to the people that control it, or do something about it. Like stop driving, ride your bike, work closer to home. Supply and demand, and we Americans demand a lot.
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Originally Posted by peter_bigblock
Way off the original topic, granted, but do you guys have any idea how a commodity market works?
yes i do, i know that if you boycott one gas supplier they just sell it to another. Also that the gas from your favorite gas station could be from any gas maker in the world. The all use the same pipelines and buy "time" on those lines to ship fuel to different areas.
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aside from the fuel concern can anybody tell me if they can really feel a difference in the increased power on the 06's?
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
The amount of profits they make are ridiculous though. Sure people can still survive at $3.50 a gallon, but why should we have to suffer just so that the oil companies can make even more money off of us. Gas is a necessity, and the oil companies know that, and I feel like they are taking advantage of the consumers.
Sorry I saw this was already posted above after I sent my reply
My lame business school response to this argument is: Take advantage of your theories and buy some ExxonMobil, Dutch Shell or BP stock. They are paying dividends every few quarters and have shown a steady gain for the last several years. (Valdez what?)
Now that I understand a commodity market, this does seem kinda dumb to say, but laugh at it anyway.
and for the love of Pete - understand that Citgo is owned by the Iranians. If your buddy owns a Citgo station and you feel bad cutting into his profits, by all means help him out, but once I found this out, I avoided Citgo like the plague and I think you should too. I refuse to give money out the nose to ignorant people who hate me.
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I still haven't opened that service manual you sold me.....


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