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Old 09-19-2003, 02:31 PM
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Talking redlining the TSX...

Have you guyz redlined the TSX yet? At how many miles did u do it?
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i've had the car for about 2 months now and i've hit the rev limter 3 times
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So deceived that the redline is not at 8000 rpm like the RSX-S.
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I redline it everytime I go from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3 ... Since I've done 2000KM.
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Still waiting to redline. Is vtec noticable? I-vtec is supposedly less noticeable than previous gen vtec.
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lgregoir, how quick do you find that 1-2 shift at redline? It seems to me there's a long wait for the revs to come down (to about 4000 or so for 2nd). It feels like:

Clutch in/gas off, shift, wait... wait... wait... wait... clutch out/gas on.

Maybe I'm not used to it yet and just need more practice, but it feels a lot better (faster, smoother) if I shift from 1->2 around 5000 - 5500 and pick up 2nd around 3000-3300. Running it up to the redline in first feels like it introduces a delay.

I've run it up to about 7100 several times, never hit the limiter which I think is at 7200.
Old 09-19-2003, 04:40 PM
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guys...

How does the shifter feel for you when sliding into 2nd from redline, compared to when shifting at lower rpms?
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1-2 shift feels smooth to me whether I shift at redline or below. I don't feel the "notchiness" that others have mentioned.
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Originally posted by fdl
guys...

How does the shifter feel for you when sliding into 2nd from redline, compared to when shifting at lower rpms?
shifing 1-2 at high RPM for me requires MORE pressure than at any other PRM or any other gear. i'm just not sure if it's normal or sth's wrong. i'm thinking about getting it check with my first oil change
does anyone have this problem also???
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Originally posted by Maxboost
shifing 1-2 at high RPM for me requires MORE pressure than at any other PRM or any other gear. i'm just not sure if it's normal or sth's wrong. i'm thinking about getting it check with my first oil change
does anyone have this problem also???

Well if it makes you feel any better my 1-2 shifts are only smooth if I shift under 3000. I'm definately going to get it checked out.
Old 09-20-2003, 03:25 PM
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They aren't as smooth because of the greater difference between 1 and 2, than any of the other gears. Imagine a stairway that requires you to jump the first step and take gradual steps the rest of the way.
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Originally posted by kenbiddulph
They aren't as smooth because of the greater difference between 1 and 2, than any of the other gears. Imagine a stairway that requires you to jump the first step and take gradual steps the rest of the way.
so how come majormojo doesn't feel any notchiness???
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Synchronizer cones?

I think the RSX had this issue on the Type S its first year.
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do it almost daily
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I don't feel any nothiness when shifting at redline... I guess the shift is so quick that I probably would not realize if it's smooth or not...

As for the delay, I beleive the RPM takes some time to go down because of the electronic throttle system . The Computer takes a bit of time to react... The same thing happens when out press the gas quickly, the throttle takes a fraction of a second before going up...
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Well, maybe what others are describing as "notchiness" I interpret as "pressure". The 1-2 shift (esp when done in a hurry) requires more effort (force, pressure) than other shifts. To me that doesn't feel abnormal or "notchy", it's just the extra work the syncros have to do on that shift.

Yes, I think the DBW electronic throttle is partly at fault in the slow rpm drop, because it holds the rpms up for a brief moment after throttle lift-off. You'd think that could be programmed to sense when the car is being pushed hard and eliminate that high rpm hold time.

I'd be very interested to know if those who have run their TSX on a 1/4 mi. track (w/ decent times... lol) are redlining the 1-2 shift or shifting earlier to avoid that rpm drop delay and get back on the throttle sooner. I haven't had enough time nor opportunity to measure what is really faster.
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