okay, so today, i decided to run into the sport shift gate to do a bit of spirited driving. Anyway, on the local ways up to the freeway, some mustang ('04) decided he was more in a hurry than me, and decided to pass me, so at the next red, i decided to take him down =D. Anyway, while im gunning my accelerator under SS mode, i notice when i shift it at 7100, the tach climbs to about 7300-7500 before the RPMs drop. I thought I missaw something, so i try to redline it at the second gear, and once again, it did the same thing. Anyway, this may sound a bit noob, but.......... WTF? anyone can explain? Hopefully that wasn't bad for my engine in any way or I'll have to shift the SS at about 6800 to ensure the engine doesn't redline.

Btw, once i got onto the freeway, i smoked the mustang for anyone curious as to what happened ^___^

 

u smoked a mustang in a TSX?

 

yeah, there was traffic on the freeway =D, but he got me on local =( by the time serious traffic hit, he was stuck behind me by like 4-5 cars haha =) i cheated i guess, but w/e xD

 

You didn't misread anything. The TSX redline is at 7100 rpm, but the fuel cutoff doesn't come until 7300 rpm.

 

I'll go ahead and call bs on beating the mustang. Either he wasn't racing or fell asleep at the wheel.

 

Oo i see..... no wonder the tach jumps up there....... theres no harm done bringing the tach up that high right? since the manual drivers bring the tach way above that?

btw accurate, haha could be the guy in the stang decided to slow down or something cuz he was 4-5 cars behind me when we finally hit some 50 mph style traffic. I know on the local way he was taking me on since i was gunning my engine keeping up /w him. probably the regular v6 version of the car or something. I seriously doubt tsxs have any chance against the v8

 

The redline is set there for a reason, not to damage the engine....a hondata will bring u to 7600rpm if u want in SS
and please, being only 17...not against your age or anyone in that age...drive responsibly, we've all been at that age and we know the urge, but sometimes bad things happen

 

Well, the base Mustang was only about 190hp and 220ft-lbs at about 3300 lbs with a 3.8l v6.... So it's not all that unbelievable, although the Mustang is probably still faster in straight line by a decent amount because of the torque and RWD.

 

ic..... so hondata could be good, or bad then since you could jack up your engine right?
for the safety thing, i drive in a fairly rural neighborhood on the weekends *farms on one side*, *big business complexes on another side*. Big streets for the big trucks, and very few cars since saturdays and sundays, noone works in the big complexes, and farms........ well go figure. I usually dont pass 5mph over the speed limit when theres a lotta cars around or when visibility is bad. No DUI for me either

 

Bad for it in any way ? Turning the engine on is bad for it in some ways.

Someone who knows more about this than me please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the redline is just that ... a red line on the tach. I think there is a substantial margin of safety built into the system so that drivers aren't destroying their engines on a regular basis.

Particularly with the automatic I don't think even with the SS the software is gonna let you get yourself into too much trouble.

But is taking it to the redline in each gear really the fastest way to accelerate anyways ?

 

Our engines make all of their power high in the powerband, so it is not bad to redline your engine.

 

another kill for the tsx!!! good job dude beating that mustang, must not have been the gt version though. oh and btw, my tsx has a redline of 9000rpm ^____^

 

9000 RPM???

 

read text is for when you are not being serious.

 

^^He means "red" text.

 

^ haha...

i was wondering...wtf is read text?

 

Just because the tach meters last number is 9000, doesn't mean that it is your redline...

Fuel cut-off is there for a reason, so you don't screw up your engine. You're fine pushing it to 7300.

 

Do you want a cookie?






please, drive safe. I've lost a friend in the past year because of high speed driving that took place on a country back-road. Sure, there might not be anyone around, but potholes and bumps and trees are there 24/7.

 

What about RWD would make a car "faster in straight line" than FWD?

BTW, beating a V6 Mustang is easy to do. A buddy of mine has had two of them in the last several years (with auto) and the best he could ever get it to do 0-60 was about 9-10 seconds. They dumb them down on purpose to make the V8 versions seem that much faster by comparison.

 

damnit I drank to much last night

 

or or

 

don't be afraid to take it over 5K+ rpms. the 4-cyl is made for it - it screams for your attention on spirited drives

 

I've lost count of all the people I've known who lost their lives driving on country backroads. In my little corner of the world when you get in a fight with an oak tree the tree always wins. BTW - An airbag won't save you when you ride gets cut in two. It happens...

 

Traction. and something called weigh transfer. People often forget about these things, when you accelerate, weigh shifts towards the rear wheels of the car. In a FWD car this means less traction up front which in turn decreases acceleration. In a RWD car, this weigh transfer puts more weigh on the rear driving wheels, thus introduction more traction on the driving wheels, hence more acceleration.

This is why in some suspension setup's on FWD cars (and esp for drag race cars), the rear suspension is slightly higher than the front. This is done to try to offset this weigh transferrring during hard acceleration and trying to keep the front wheels on the ground as much as possible.

Simple fact and physics of FWD and RWD cars.

 

Since the all mighty JTso told me to go read some , I might as well as go to buy one right now

 

You could do worse...

 

I just pulled up some numbers, and it seems the V6 Mustang does 0-60 in 8.3 seconds (tested by C&D). The V8 Mustang seems to do the 0-60 in the 6-7 second range. The V6 version is a low RPM runner showing power up to 3,000 rpms before the power dies off and redlining at 5,900.
On the other hand, TSX is rated at 7.3 seconds 0-60, and our I4 gets the power after 4k RPMS with the vtec pumping in at 6,000. Redline at 7,100. At first i thought the mustang was slowing down, but on second thought how fast could his car be?